Modern Warfare 3 will be getting 20 DLC packs over the next 9 months. Which begs the question: how much DLC is too much?
Activision= MW= Greed
If someone is dumb enough to keep giving you money, why wouldn't you take? Theres a difference between being an opportunist and being greedy. A victim of greed is a person who gets screwed and can do NOTHING about it. On the other hand, the victim of an opportunist is a person who WILLINGLY agrees to be taken advantage of.
Logicwins has a very good point. Well it aint my problem since I'm not really into cod anyways.enjoy your $200+ mw3 games guys! Lol!
U can slice it any way you want.. Greed is greed and theirs (activision) is out of control.. An opportunist takes what they need when the moment arrives.. A greedy s.o.b. keeps milking the cow regardless of how much milk is already in the fridge.
^^Greed is when you exploit someone else for your own gain without the exploitee's consent. In this case, it isn't greed because the people that buy this DLC don't feel like they are being exploited, they feel like they are getting a good deal. If you have the OPTION to not spend your money, but CHOOSE to spend your money...your not being exploited, your just making an exchange: Money for what you BELIEVE is content that is worth the money.
Homeboy you can still view greed from a distance, not participate and still see that it's GREED!!! quit trying to push you pov on me.. Our definitions of greed obviously are different.. They hack their games up to make more money. 20 new items = 4 to 5 map packs at $15 a pop.. I think it's greedy regardless if I decide to buy it or not
~*"In this case, it isn't greed because the people that buy this DLC don't feel like they are being exploited, they feel like they are getting a good deal."*~ Just because you don't 'feel' like you are being exploited and just because you 'feel' like it's a good deal doesn't mean that's the case. With that said, everything you stated is null and void. Activision is greedy. Plain and simple.
I wonder if Infinity Ward's new game will still come out in 2 years since they're spending resources and people on DLC for nine months.
I'm pretty sure the DLC packs aren't individual contents, but packed much like the original DLC content packs, with 3-5 playable maps. They're also adding additional content (I don't know if they're doing guns or modes additionally, it's still ubiquitous, even if the community demonizes it they know it will generate revenue). It's too much for consumers when there are 10+ content packs for a game. I remember when I was into LBP looking for the MGS pack, and being that it was among costumes and stickers and whatnot, it was an annoyance. The real greed you should be concerned with is that Activision is still following Microsoft's delay deal with the PS3 and PC even through Elite--which is a third party service and should not be included into Microsoft's DLC exclusivity deal since it's not a part of it at all. That is greed at work. Not to mention it still hasn't delivered any content to it's paying customers. I don't pay for CoD games anymore, but my little brother, amongst many others on the game, are beginning to start an outcry for how they feel ripped off with the game, and sort of regretting that decision to spend $65 on a $20 DLC pack.
Are you smart? Give me knowledge pls, I buy map packs dumb dumb me :(
You misunderstand. I don't believe that people who buy map packs are dumb. It's there money and they can do whatever the hell they want with it. The "dumb" part was a hyperbole.
you better hope AC3 has more innovation or as much as AC2 cuz if it doesnt the irony will b so strong due to ur pic.
I think this is wrong. Isn't it supposed to be 20 different things in the DLC packs, instead of 20 actual packs? I mean... what's the maps now? 5 maps a pack right? Black Ops was like 4 maps and 1 zombie map. Isn't this supposed to be, there's going to be either 4 packs with 5 maps each, or 5 packs with 4 maps each. Something like that. That's out of the norm at all. Edit... wow. I see LOGICWINS is down to 3 bubbles. It's amazing how fast your bubbles can go down in this land of the SDF, isn't it? :) Edit 2 more time, because I'm down to 1 bubble from that very same! Anyhooo.. the site that wrote this.. they have no link for their info, as far as I could find. All they say is... "Activision just announced that Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 will be getting a staggering amount of DLC over the next 9 months...." But no link to this announcement. This is new news? Being a COD Elite member, I already knew long ago the map packs I was getting. Edit 3... HA! I knew I was right. Here, look on my site, I have a picture from Elite that shows it's 20 PIECES OF NEW MW3 DLC.... this link takes you right to the real info, on my site. www.showtimeforfree.com/index. php?topic=4104.msg53396#msg533 9 6
*Remember when maps used to be free? Remember when instead of a few maps for $15, we got huge expansion packs for $20? Those were the good old days…* Yea remember when we use to buy a game and got a complete experience without having parts taken out?? OT:This DlC crap is starting to get out of hand seriously i'm sure all this stuff could have been fitted on to the disk.
Yea remember when we use to buy a game and got a complete experience without having parts taken out?? you can always wait for the price drop and get all of it much cheaper, the only thing is that CoD games take years to drop the price lol.
Or you simply hop on cragislits and get it for half the retail price, question is why would anybody spend even half on this copy paste garbage...
"Yea remember when we use to buy a game and got a complete experience without having parts taken out?? " i remember that aswell as games that lasted a long time months and months before that got repetitive heck the old mp p2p games were waaay better then the garbage crap today. i have yet this gen to play a mp game and keep playing it after 7months so much repetitive copy/paste copy what the other guy is doing bs this gen. Lets hope TM is good.
Depends how much we are willing to spend. The amount of MW3 map packs are to make you buy the elite (which saves you money if you are going to get all of them).
This depends entirely on how complete the game is. Is the SP 6 hours long and the multiplayer only has so many maps? Then any DLC is too much and should of been in the actual game. Is the SP rather long and complete? Is the multiplayer in depth and awesome? Then DLC is welcome. Old maps shouldn't be DLC though....remember Rainbow Six Vegas 2? Especially if its using the same exact friggin engine.
really depends on the user base of the product.if they're willing to support the dlc why not pump it out daily.
exacly if fans want it why not charge for it.
Because that's just greedy companies exploiting ignorant gamers and taking their money (Which could be used on much more productive things).
dont buy it then simple enough.
True, but not so much for the casual user base of the CoD franchise. They will buy it because they feel like they HAVE to. Tell me I'm wrong.
Which won't stop plenty of other people who don't care enough. And the trend will continue, moving into other franchises and genres, until it's in everything. You, meanwhile, won't be buying anything because you don't like it; you'll be pushed out of gaming, and the industry will move on without you. "Not buying" simply is persuasive enough when you've got millions who may not like it, but don't care enough to NOT contribute to the problem. You have to make noise in order to get anything changed.
The DLC hasn't changed though, so I don't know wtf the author is on about. Elite premium members get DLC spread out across several weeks, leading into the release of one pack for non-premium members. We're getting the same amount of DLC as usual. Only this year, Premium members get it first, and more often, as opposed to every few months in big chunks. It's not rocket science.
Currently there is no DLC business model that even comes close to effective value for money / content ratio. DLC this generation has been the cancer of gaming. Allowing game companies to provide less disc based content in favor of splitting it up in to pieces for extra profit. As we head into the next generation its only going to get worse.
Episodes from Liberty City was great.
thats because rock star doesnt want to just give the game new bells and whistles. which is why their dlc for gta4 was so good imo. the want to give the players quality.
Yep look at RDR Undead nightmare
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I have to agree, the only company to bring out dlc that I really feel offered value was R* with the liberty city stories and Red dead with it's undead nightmare. I have got to the point where I dislike dlc so much I have just stopped buying it for every game. Even though I like Gears 3, I have not and wont buy any dlc for it. R* are the only guys who I feel are at least trying to make their fans feel like they are part of an experience that is worth the money. If it was not for them I think I would be on the verge of giving up gaming altogether.
To the point your game is only 8-hours long without it.
I hear CoD has multiplayer now.
I am talking about SP content, but thanks for telling me. Multiplayer these days are slapped on and used to artificially extend the length of what is actually a short game. AND THE MULTIPLAYER IS ABOUT THE SAME ON ALL SHOOTERS. A very popular multiplayer doesn't change the fact CoD is well under 8-hours. It's like a cake that has icing that taste better than the actual cake itself. Games like Skyrim boasts hundreds of hours worth of SP content, but no crappy run of the mill online multiplayer full of losers screaming racist terms on the mic, like CoD.
It sounds like you don't like multiplayer. You probably shouldn't be buying multiplayer oriented games to begin with. Complaining about a shooter where multiplayer is clearly the focus is about as stupid as me complaining because Skyrim doesn't include multiplayer. Complaining about a short game is reasonable. Complaining about a short single player campaign in a game that's focus is clearly on multiplayer is just dumb.
Won't bother me, that's why I got elite. But 20 pieces of DLC is a bit ridiculous.
Penny or more.
Didn't they find some of those maps on the disc already but locked?
Yeah just like BC2 remember?
They did? That sucks. @NYC_Gamer I guess but still doesn't make it right to charge for something that's already on Disc.
many games have been released with the dlc already on disc
Nope. Pretty sure hackers would have unlocked them by now. Anyway those 20 pieces of DLC will be split into like 4 map packs. some people actually think its 20 $15 packs. LMFAO
When Quantity > Quality but seeing the current MW3 maps there isnt much hope. Just more little mazes with nothing special about em just to stop a lot of spawn killing and faster action. i know people had complaints about Spawn killing in older CoDs but really, Spawn killing is a form of reward in older games and some games still today rather than shiny points. Look at what has happened due to IW's attempts to please u. You have some of the worst spawns in FPS history. People spawn locked into a small room where they just get 500 kills in a match, instant spawning behind enemies after death, spawning into bullets, and such. Also the tiny map size has played a tribute to this. CoD was fine when there were 2 bases where players spawned.
In cod4 when you spawn trapped a team you knew it took coordination with your whole team to pull it off and the other team would need to be just as good and coordinated to get out of it. The problem was that most of the time the other team was made of noobs and they all went off to IW and cried so they changed it and the end result is now this game of cat and mouse... you kill a guy, he spawns round the corner and kills you, then you spawn round the corner and kill him, then he spawns and kills you... sometime it will break a bit and spawn you the complete opposite end but with the way the map designs are plus the bullshit speed people can run at on juice it only takes a quick dash to be right up in the guys face again. pure madness if you ask me, anyway MW3 has gone back to the shop.
I only buy SP or co-op DLC. The maps they make for all these "modern shooters" are just the same maps you played 2 to 5 years ago.
That's $300 for DLC? No thanks.
Go Elite and that $300 turns in to $50
I highly doubt there will be 20 map packs. 20 maps over 4-5 packs will probably happen, but there's no way there will be 20 map packs.
The way they've spun a web around all the dumbasses to actually make them think this is a GOOD thing. That this is GOOD news! HO BABY! The more I have to spend to play ONE game the better! xD
It depends on the game. You can release DLC if you want to genuinely extend the life of the game and I won't think less of you - like Fallout 3, that game was huge to begin with, and the DLC added a bunch, but it was purely optional. With MW3, the DLC is hardly optional. If you don't have the maps that people in that lobby want, you'll get kicked out. It's almost required if you want to game uninterrupted online. I'd say even their past amounts of DLC is too much, especially when they charge so much for so little. But TWENTY packs in just 9 months? WHY WASN'T ANY OF THIS IN THE ACTUAL GAME. I've honestly never wanted a game less. Literally, what a joke. Also: XBL Gold costs $60 a year now. Not $50.
Well said. it's sad that it has got to this point. Eventually MW/cod will go the way of Guitarhero and then it will be killed off.
I'll take as much "DLC" as polyphony digital-GT5 gives out! Looking forward to the new Acura NSX concept!
This is completely wrong. On the 24th* of this month 2 maps will be given to 360 elite members as part of their monthly updates. Then a bit later the same to maps will be given to ps3 elite members. Regular uses will get a map pack when 4 maps have been given to elite users, these will be bundled and sold on the store. This *20* dlc is the stuff elite members will be getting. There might be an extra 12 maps coming in dlc. Seperated into 3 map packs. And given out over the space of 6 months to Elite users. Everything else such as extra spec ops missions and extra camos, prestige tokens, double xp is a elite only thing and will be provided as monthly updates when there is down time on new maps. TL;DR. 20 differant pieces of dlc delivered monthly to elite members. Regular uses will get 3 or so map packs as usual, just later than elite members.
I'll be playing Bf3 anyway, MW3 is going back to gamestop! Suckers!
20 pieces? Isn't that like 4 packs? We already got used to Activision selling us 3+ packs for one game so I don't think four is so much of a difference. (Still wouldn't buy it like the Black Ops packs) And that's like 60$ which makes Elite worth it. (And the fact that they're gonna give the regular XBOX users the packs 3 weeks later. AND the PS3 regular users will get those packs even LATER. And the fact that you get kicked from almost every game because you don't have the pack which makes you have to buy the packs)
Woah woah woah!! I thought MW3 was DLC for MW2? FML.....LOL
Fans of this overly hyped series can hate me for the statement I'm about to make all they want to, but the way I see it is every CallofDuty released since Mw2 is basically a $60 "DLC" pack for CoD4...there is a video on youtube showing gameplay of mw3 and mw3 side by side, and they both looked identical..
You're axactly right. Black Ops and MW3 are in fact DLC in a new box. The series got destroyed after COD3. Everyone started playing it and it got destroyed.
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