Game Informer rates Final Fantasy XIII-2 lower than the original

One of the first Western reviews for Final Fantasy XIII-2 is in, courtesy of Game Informer. The magazine had a couple of pressing issues with the title, but still gave it a great deal of praise.

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Ranma12232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

10 years ago, it would be unheard of and suprising for a Final Fantasy game to get an 8.

How did my favourite video game series of all time fall down to the levels of a sewer and how to get out of it?

Foxgod2232d ago

10 years ago Square was still producing rpg's
With FF10 and up they started to put out cut scene driven movie games, instead of rpg's.

Snookies122232d ago

*Facepalm* Just go back and remake FF6, 7, 8, and 9... At least then Square can't possibly mess up those masterpieces, with all the dialogue, characters, and world already there. They just have to do graphics right...

Then again, this is Enix we're talking about, not Squaresoft, so maybe they can... :\

princejb1342232d ago

snookies12 if you really think they cant mess up those games i highly doubt it
as much as a i want a ff7 remake i have no faith in them
this gen they have sucked and anything they touch this gen will suck even remakes

Foxgod2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

Indeed, i can already see what a remade FF7 would be like.
Square would call it a streamlined product, where materia can no longer be equiped, but is attached to a weapon by default.
This so that the player doesnt have to go out and look for materia anymore.

They would remove the chocobo breeding system, and instead let us breed summons, and store them in little balls.

The world map would be removed, square would call it a more cinamatic experience, where players no longer have to think what direction to go.

Also it would have a card system, the cards would replace gold, because squares world is so awesome, money would no longer be required.

They do would introduce EXP as an awesome and totally new feature, but the EXP will only apply to a silly rating system that nobody wants.

Leveling will now no longer occur, not even trough a silly grid, winning this game will now be based on pure luck, yes luck.
This luck comes from little potions that can be created trough an insanely annoying mini game, if you run out of luck potions, your screwed and game over.

I could go on, but i dont wanna give square too many idea's, they got eyes everywhere.

Pozzle2232d ago

@Foxgod: The thing I'm most worried about a FFVII remake is that Square might add things from the Compilation, like Genesis or The Deepground SOLDIERs. Or they might cut out parts like Cloud crossdressing or Chocobo Racing or the snowboarding scene because they might be seen as "too silly" for the remade game.

sikbeta2232d ago

You don't ask for remakes, when the people who work @ SE tell you that "it'd be difficult... too many townz"


barom2232d ago

i say bring back Yasumi Matsuno and make FFXII-2. I'd totally want another game in the "mature" Ivalice world (not the one seen in FFT gba games)

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iamtehpwn2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

"The reviewer is particularly critical of the game’s story, describing it as “laughable and borderline insulting” and states that the game “screws it up at every turn”.

Juba even said that it’s one of his favorite RPGs from a mechanical standpoint. He believes that “If you can detatch yourself from the absurd story, the wealth of content and fun mechanics are extremely satisfying”."

Interesting. So they got the gameplay right, but not the story? I'm curious as to 'what' is causing these paradoxes anyway.

Well, it doesn't matter, I'm waiting for this be blown widely out of proportion on N4G within the next hour.

LoLZoRz2232d ago

I have a feeling that they created a "complicated" and "convoluted" story on purpose and at the end it's just full of plot-holes and nonsense.

that's just a feeling.

Megaman_nerd2232d ago

This is just like FFX-2, pretty decent gameplay but everything else sucks. Very Toriyama indeed.

Square shouldn't let that guy direct any other FF game, he should go back to do more simple stuff like director of events or something else. And even then after 3rd Birthday I wouldn't want him close to anything FF. He was the one that came up with the horrible plot device about time travel for 3rd Birthday and ruined the overall story with gimmicks.

Disccordia2232d ago

I agree about Toriyama. Keep Kitase and Nomura in charge of FF and it'll be ok.

Rampaged Death2232d ago

They messed up the battle system.

Ranma12232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

Lets see game informers FF reviews




FF10.....9.75 (2002)


FF13-2....8 !!!!

Hence i was correct in saying that 10 years ago, you wouldnt see major FF games getting an 8 (maybe i should have said GameInformer specifically)

It hurts to see my favourite series of all time going down the toilet, while i cant do anything about really really does

Arnon2232d ago

Ever since Squaresoft merged with Enix, the quality of the Final Fantasy franchise has been on a decline. FFX being the last Final Fantasy made by Squaresoft. From there on out, each game has progressively received a lower score, or close to that extent.

The quality games that have been put out by SE, aside from The World Ends With You and some old remakes, have been developed by other studios, and published by SE, such as Deus Ex: Human Revolution.

Disccordia2232d ago

Even FFX though was the beginning of where it went wrong. Running down endless corridors because they decided a world map wasn't important anymore. It was still a good game but I preferred the four before it much more.

Ryo-Hazuki2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

its actually sad that Game Informer gave FF13 a 9.25 and bought into the hype and then turn around and give FF13-2 a 8 when in fact FF13-2 is BETTER than 13. You can say the story sux but when every other part of the game is improved how can you score it lower than the original? 13 should have been a 8 and 13-2 should be a 8.5

SephirothX212232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

The reviewer does compliment the game's graphics, its level amount of content, its freedom and its battle system so its not all doom and gloom. I would prefer if FF was the way it was but nothing lasts forever. I think people on here like to hate too much. This is about business. If SE feels westernisation will be more profitable than using traditional formula, then westernisation it is. Though bad story aside, what is this game doing wrong either?

Edit: The reviewer criticises the story because too many mysteries are explained as being paradoxes. Didn't MGS4's story receive a lot of praise when many of the mysteries in the game were explained as being caused by nano-machine implants?

RBLAZE19882232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

That's not a plot device tho...a paradox is an easy cop out explanation in most stories that try really hard to have an unexplainable twist. It's rarely done correctly and elegantly. Some good examples are the movie donnie darko, inception etc or games like legacy of kain soul reaver series or FF8. Furthermore, nano machines are not like paradoxes because they can't just spring out of nowhere to save a plot hole in the story. They are introduced right away and also are an actual real world technology so its not like the writers of mgs just wrote it in to explain everything.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI2232d ago

About the nano-machines. That plot device was there since MGS2. I feel people ignored that completely. It wasn't pulled out of their ass last minute to explain things, it was there the whole time and an intended part of the story.

ReservoirDog3162232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

Bad story and music in a FF game = skip.

I don't care if it got a 1 or 10, story and music are most important in a FF game.

I liked XIII enough but if the story's bad and the music's forgettable then I'll just write this off no matter how much better everything else is.

Apocwhen2232d ago

"How did my favourite video game series of all time fall down to the levels of a sewer and how to get out of it?"

An 8 out of 10 is now considered sewer material?

geddesmond2232d ago

Square Enix is to blame. Bring back the old Square soft. You know that company who knew how to make great JRPGs.

Anyway Final Fantasy has always been about a good story. If it doesn't have a good story then whats the point in playing a game based on fantasy.

bobrea2231d ago

So now games that get 8s are in the sewers... I hate people who act like an 8 is a terrible score. Gamers are such a fickle bunch. Its too bad the game isn't deserving of 10s, but an 8 is still a solid score. I can't think of another franchise with 15 entries that is still getting good review scores.

SilentNegotiator2231d ago

An eight IS a lower score these days. Look at how easy it is for a game to get a 9/10 these days. It's like every other big name title (from a publisher with deep pockets) gets a 9+ on average.

SilentNegotiator2231d ago

"10 years ago, it would be unheard of and suprising for a Final Fantasy game to get an 8"

10 years ago, the entire industry/culture wouldn't have considered an 8 to be a devastating score, nor would an 8 have BEEN such a low score (in comparison to how titles tend to score in the present).

Tapewurm2231d ago

You also have to remember that reviewers ....especially Mr. Juba, are a bit jaded when it comes to this. Sure he said the game mechanics are great and the content is good, just that the story kills it and blah blah blah. I like XIII and I am sure I will like XIII2. So what if he gave it an "8"....that's his opinion....I will NEVER make a purchase decision based on a review. I try the demo and go on what I like....I liked XIII so this will be a definite purchase for me.

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Ranma12232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

Lets hope this game fails so SE doesnt make FF13-3.

Unfortunately the best of the 8 endings of FF13-2 says "to be continued..." and Square Enix has bought the web domains to

So things aint looking good, i wont be surprised if they make 13-3, since they are so out of touch with fans...

Godmars2902232d ago

And yet doesn't this end with "To Be Continued?"

Pozzle2232d ago

To be fair, so did Dirge of Cerberus (well..kind of. It had an open ending). And we still haven't seen a sequel to that game.

Redempteur2232d ago

"To be continued" once you have all the fragments...

Yes it's a open ending game but there is a end

Kenshin_BATT0USAI2232d ago

Not really an end, Genesis comes back, he says he needs to do something and that's it. Not much of an ending IMO

Foxgod2232d ago

Most FF consumers these days are the rpg equivelance of COD consumers.
They buy it because its FF, and totally ignore the quality of the game.

Megaman_nerd2232d ago

Can you imagine if they delayed FFvs even more to release FFXIII-3 by early 2013? XD

Megaman_nerd2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

an 8/10 is not bad though. edit: But he does say that the story is really crappy.

Foxgod2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

The backstage politics in game review land have ruined the scoring system, these days an 8 is only one point away of a major stink fest.

An 8 pretty much means the product is flawed.

knifefight2232d ago

Yeah, game review scores have gotten way out of hand. These numbers mean nothing.

Ahasverus2232d ago

However the score is completely discarded because of the score they gave to the original. With better "everything but story", it just can't be worse than FFXIII

Foxgod2232d ago (Edited 2232d ago )

I was able to play FF13 while reading a book and constantly keeping one button pressed down, i might as well have taped it stuck, its indeed hard to make something like that worse.

But remember, its square.

Kenshin_BATT0USAI2232d ago

Dude by the time you fight the first summon that wouldn't work. And that's less than an hour in.

DragonKnight2232d ago

He might be exaggerating, but not by much. Auto-battle works for everything except maybe the summon battles in which the only change is looking for moments to heal, Barthandalus where he's not the same every battle but you're still just looking for moments to heal, and Pulse.

FFXIII's battle system is almost completely hands off it's that bad.

silkrevolver2232d ago

Almost every complaint was lodged towards the story. Which is unfortunate, but expected (like X-2.) He also criticized the soundtrack. Other than that, he said it exceeds the original in almost every way, and is a great game. I’m quite fine with that.

SpaceFox2232d ago

It's a shame about the story but considering I barely understood the first, yet still enjoyed it, I dont think I'll really mind that much.

Still looking forward to it.

Tdmd2232d ago

I second that. Although, I want to see/read more about this new "freedom" before giving this game a chance.