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Submitted by doctorstrange 917d ago | article

Handhelds are Doomed. Oh Wait, They Aren’t. Just the Vita is.

When the 3DS released, lackluster sales immediately caused the internet to struggle under the weight of thousands of articles proclaiming not only the end of the 3DS and Nintendo, but dedicated handheld consoles as a whole. One price-cut and a bunch of good games later, and the 3DS was outperforming the DS’ launch sales. With the Vita now failing to sell well in Japan, doomsday predictions are happening all over again – but are the claims fair? - PSLS (3DS, Hot Shots Golf , Industry, PS Vita, PS3, Uncharted: Golden Abyss)

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doctorstrange  +   917d ago
Like seriously
Even Forbes tried to pass off an 'article' which speculated the end of the Vita. Just calm down, give it time.
Trexman89  +   917d ago
well, a new monster hunter game just released in japan on the 3DS so its more of bad timing than the Vita failing. They have disgea 3 on the vita, but that's pretty much an old game now. Just give the vita time....let some proper monster hunter games get released and it will do fine.
Dante112  +   917d ago
I wonder if anyone will actually read the article or just go off the title and assume that they're saying that the Vita's doomed.

But I agree, those articles are ridiculous.
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BluEx610  +   917d ago
Yeah it might not sell like hot cakes right away, but with games like CoD, LBP, UC, MvsC3, KZ, Resistance, and other big franchise games getting ported, I don't see how people don't want to play HD games on the go. Call of Duty is what I'm looking forward to the most, hope they release it soon.

I comment first, read later =)
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mindedone  +   917d ago
@Dante

Why would anyone assume something ELSE from the title. The title says just that, that Vita is doomed. Regardless of what the actual article is, the title is bait.
LOGICWINS  +   917d ago
Damn...even PS sites are saying its doomed. Not a good sign.
BitbyDeath  +   917d ago
We'd likely get less stupid posts if it stated in your post that you clicked out before writing a response. Even better just hide the box away until the link is clicked.

If only for the LOL's
SilentNegotiator  +   917d ago
*Reads Article*

I knew PSLS was up to more than what the title suggested.

What they're saying is fair enough. 3DS proved that the anecdote that "dedicated handheld gaming is doomed!" is baloney. And even if the Vita did completely fail (Not likely - dismal sales largely have to do with Monster Hunter releasing for 3DS very recently), it wouldn't prove that ridiculous suggestion.
gaffyh  +   917d ago
It seems that logic fails looking at LOGIVWINS' comment. Read the damn article.
GribbleGrunger  +   917d ago
every time i come in these threads now it appears that even Sony fans have been brainwashed by the media. there is no problem and yet we get: 'a new monster hunter game could change things', 'a call of duty game would change things', as if the Vita's 'recovery' depends upon certain games. no it doesn't. just like EVERY Sony console, the games will sell steadily and the hardware will sell steadily. Vita will sell on tech alone for quite some time trust me and by years end all of this trash will be forgotten.

bottom line: MS want to convince the world that they are the most successful console manufacturer by touting America as the world, buying favours from the media and discrediting Sony and some folks even want to help for free.
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Halochampian  +   917d ago
@GribbleGrunger

What does this have anything to do with MS?
inveni0  +   917d ago
I know that I'm no longer buying one at launch for my son. Once I learned about proprietary memory, I decided that the Vita would be a 2012 Christmas gift. I'd rather buy a new system with used memory and used games (especially since the games can cost up to $50) than spend over $350 just to get started at launch. Plus, if sales are too stinky, they'll drop the price by Christmas 2012. So it's really a win/win. In the meantime, he gets an iPod touch. It's not exactly what he wants, but it'll tie him over, and "all his friends have one".
jeseth  +   916d ago
I think calling it VITA instead of PSP2 was a big mistake.

Name recognition is huge. PSP is a very recognizable brand and there is familiarity there. VITA sounds unfamiliar and many consumers don't want to invest $300+ dollars on somethuing that is "unknown".

We'll see. I have been impressed with it and may bite. The average consumer, I'm not so sure.
gamingdroid  +   916d ago
The problem is that both time/money share from consumers are going towards smart phones so handheld market is shrinking.

Coupled with "amazing" sales for the 3DS and mediocre sales for the PS Vita, I think there will be some problems. If the public perceives the Vita as a failed product even if it isn't, it is doomed.

MS did that mistake with the Xbox 360 in Japan. They released it with too few games, and it was doomed dead before it had a chance i.e. there was no shortage, plenty of stock on hand at launch and low sales number. That perception is hard to shake off, and likely will carry into the next generation.

So the question is, can Sony pump up the PR machine?

As it stands, the 3DS is essentially half the price when you factor in the memory card requirement of the Vita.
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kikizoo  +   916d ago
gamingdroid, ps vita sold more in few weeks than 360 in 4 years !, don't even compare, and if japanese don't buy more microsoft's console, it's not because of ms bad strategy, they use huge $ to win the market, it's just because japanese have a better product, and more and better games with ps3, and pay less than others to buy one.

"If the public perceives the Vita as a failed product even if it isn't, it is doomed. "

even if fanboyz and dumb blogs try hard, like for the ridiculous and pathetic "ps3 is doomed" days, the product is the best available, and sony always deliver for games, so they'll never failed with vita (but i agree, without the uggly propaganda, viral marketing, and stupids haters, vita, like ps3, should do even better)
Blogz4Fanboyz  +   916d ago
i dont know what is more annoying: the xyz console/handheld is doomed blogs or the stupid wrote in defense fanboy blogs!

ffs, n4g, although never being a site of any merit or worth, just descends day by day into the sewer of web-sites!

what is worse, there is a plethora of leech sites that write rubbish especially for the hits they can get from the pretty pathetic community on n4g! and day by day the flock oblige!

no news, just blogs, top tens and an assortment of trash aimed at the faithful. the problem is, that the root cause is the community on here!

if i was a web-site owner, i would be churning out xbox and every other console hatred, and sony love articles by the day..... then throw in a few anti sony blogs now and again.

that, my web-site dwelling flock, is a sure fire way of boosting the hit counter massively. and you lot fall for it everytime.

just take playstationlifestyle. i would bet that 90% of their hits come from n4g. perhaps the author, who is no doubt around, could tel us
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sikbeta  +   916d ago
IF Sony cared so much about Vita success, they should have secured Monster Hunter aka the PSP Savior in Japan, also IF they want their Portable to do well, why their Top Tier Developers never make games for Portables? Bend is the only First Party Dev who makes games whenever SCE wants a low budget spin-off for Vita/PSP, the day put the same effort on Portables, they'll see better results...
Bioshocking  +   916d ago
Bad timing.... or clever Nintendo scheme?
0_0

Personally I think the Vita will do much better here in the west. More of the games are geared towards the western audience... and the launch line up is probably one of the most robust ones I have ever seen for a handheld.

People have to stop jumping the bandwagon... the vita will do fine... give it time
Anarki  +   916d ago
There will never be an end to any product. Even the PSP was going strong with very few games and a shit load of piracy.
LORD-PHOENIX  +   916d ago
and logicwins (in your case fails)
looks stupid again....grow up get a job and leave the bridge you live under
Autodidactdystopia  +   916d ago
I want Vita but the economy is too bad for me right now, just sold my gt racing wheel my nice monitor and my 100 deep collection of blu-rays just to pay the phone bill.

storys probably the same with others could explain it but you never know.

still got my pc tho, never sell that. too much of a loss its worth more to me than I could get out of it on craigslist.
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Sev  +   917d ago
Seriously, it's not even out in Western regions yet.

I think the general public aren't expecting the Vita to be as good as it is. It's much more impressive once you hold it.

Sony needs to do a lot more to show that it's not another PSP.
Colwyn  +   917d ago
The vita is doomed to fail because its made by Sony. Even though its the best handheld device ever that is able to play games of this generation without compromise. It'll have over 100 million potential gamers ready to purchase it who have ps3 and xbox 360 but its doomed. Other than 3d and Mario titles, the vita has rendered the 3ds useless because it does everything it can but better. To each his own ,I'm a techie so I could never go back to playing the 3ds because I'm a hi def gamer who has been spoiled by this gen hi def consoles. Anyone who hates the vita either hates this gen console games or are idiotic fanboys. The vita is the future
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morganfell  +   917d ago
Building a compendium of bookmarks for websites, articles, and posters proclaiming the doom of the Vita. It will come in handy later.
LOGICWINS  +   917d ago
"Sony needs to do a lot more to show that it's not another PSP."

Correct. But heres the problem. Vita comes out next month.

If your asking people to make a $300-$350 investment in a portable gaming console(Vita, memory card, and a game), you can't wait till the last minute to start advertising because most consumers don't have $300 just lying around to spend on a gaming system on short notice...ESPECIALLY after the holiday season.

I'm not saying that Vita will fail(I think it will do very well when it drops to $200 and gets more public exposure) , but you'd have to be a moron not to see that the odds are against it.

-No Vita advertisements on AT&T's website

-$50 games

-Memory cards are required for bigger titles like Uncharted: Golden Abyss

-Smartphones(yes as much as you want to pretend that they won't make a difference in Vita sales, they WILL. If a person is used to paying $1 for games, its HARD to convince them to pay $50 for a portable game.)
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Dark_king  +   917d ago
Games sell game systems,and right now the Vita has very few games that sell in the Japanese market.So it goes without saying that its not going to sell that well in that market right now.
It really should have been released in EU,US with the release titles it lunched with.
MasterCornholio  +   917d ago
@LOGICWINS

Your misinformed because you claim that all Vita games cost 50$ Do you even pay attention to the news? A while ago Capcom announced that Resident Evil Revelations would cost 50€. Anyways just to inform you Games for the Vita range from 0€ to 50€ with many Vita titles just costing 30€. This is due to the omission of a pricing structure.

XperiaRay
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rexbolt  +   916d ago
what does western sales have todo with anything? psp dident even do that great in the west compaired to japan were not talk aboiu japan dont worry about the wes right now
cjflora  +   917d ago
The title is sarcasm.
damnyouretall  +   917d ago
the way i feel is that handhelds are kinda a step back from the quality console games ive been playin for a few years with current tech. i want better games, not old tech
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Wintersun616  +   916d ago
That's the price you pay with portability compared to a home console. Some Vita games look better than most PS3 launch games so it's not that bad IMO. But I wouldn't know if that's good enough for you or not because unlike you, I often play older games too.
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damnyouretall  +   916d ago
youre right winter, i dont play older games cause i played the heck out of them years ago. the vita looks sharp for a handheld but im more lookin forward to the next gen consoles. so youre right its not for everyone
StraightPath   916d ago | Trolling | show
thorstein  +   916d ago
You're absolutely correct. And the article states: "3DS’ biggest week ever. 378,114 units were sold"

"Then the Vita launched to reasonable, but not spectacular, sales of 321K "

Well, which is it? Is moving over 320,000 units during one week of sales good or bad. And after three weeks the Vita now has a Japanese install base of 1/2 million.

Am I missing something?
knifefight  +   917d ago
3 weeks determines your whole life! d000000med! :o
doctorstrange  +   917d ago
My first 3 weeks of life
Sucked. I could hardly say a full sentence.

I'm doomed.
tiffac008  +   917d ago
My first 3 weeks of life was bad too.
Someone had to change my underwear all the time, it was too embarrassing that it scared me for life.

I'm doooooommmmmmeeeddddd!!!

@belac09 (below)

Its not a negative article bro, in fact its telling people not to judge a device that's only been in the market for 3 weeks and released in a few Asian territories with only Japan being the biggest market.
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D3stinySm4sher  +   917d ago
"MvC3 is on every platform ever?"

Except for, oh, say...Wii, or 3DS, or PC...?
Street Fighter 4's on a lot more platforms than MvC3 is.
MvC's on TWO platforms. Soon to be three. Just saying.

BUT I think it's important that it's a previously released game in general. So is Modnation, in a manner of speaking.

3DS had a slow start but is gaining ground, I expect Vita will do the same.
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rexbolt  +   916d ago
the 3ds wasent this slow lol and nor did the price drop by 17 and 20% on week three unofficaly becouse it was selling so bad
Gaetano  +   917d ago
Vita won't die out because it lives and dies by digital downloads, which are exceeding Sony's figures. At the end of the day this is a product that will consistently sell 70k-100k per week in Japan over its lifetime, which is similar to the PSP, which is still selling well. The one thing that hurt the PSP was software sales, which were never crash hot, even in Japan. Vita has the advantage because of the accessibility and affordability of PSP and Vita downloadable titles. Just as Apple has proved with mobile gaming and music, if you price the product competitively enough, people will choose it over piracy. Sony is adopting the iTunes/App Store strategy, and it'll benefit from it in the long run.
Oaklnd  +   917d ago
yikes, its just doomed huh
Optical_Matrix  +   917d ago
I'll say this again, the article references the doom articles, which Forbes has been spearheading. May I remind everyone, that this is the same Forbes, who predicted that the PS2 would spell the end of the Sony and would be a momenumental failure.

Thinking about the collective masses of crow the Forbes office must be eating today horrify's me.

EDIT: @doctorstrange, Aye they predicted that because of the PS2's rocky launch, it would fail and Sony could potentially go out of business. The article is pretty old so you'd need to do some digging. I'll post it if I find it but I only have one bubble. It's quite a funny read, especially when you see where the PS2 is today.
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doctorstrange  +   917d ago
Wow
Seriously? Bloody hell. Forbes should have shut down their gaming section after that.
MariaHelFutura  +   917d ago
It's cool to think Sony is gonna fail. Has anyone ever seen IGNs Dreamcast vs. Ps2 video? If not.. watch it, then go read ANY "Sony's doomed" artical.

"Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again expecting something to be different"
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smashcrashbash  +   917d ago
No one ever learns. Every system people drag out the doom articles again. People behave like there is nothing Sony can do to raise sales. New games, more bundles even lower the price if necessary. But no lets be annoying and start the same thing over and over again.

'The PS1 is doomed, whoops no it isn't. Okay then the PS2 is doomed, okay no it isn't. Okay then the PS3 is surely doomed,okay wrong again. I know the PSV HAS to be doomed, right?' One thing I am thankful for is that these people and people who write on gaming sites don't run companies. If they did they would have thrown the PS1 away at the slightest drop in sales or have listened to every jack@$$ on the net who told you it would fail.

If companies were run by these idiots the business world would have collapsed a long tome ago. They probably would jump out a window at the slightest drop in stocks or sell the company because one product did badly.
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urwifeminder  +   917d ago
The paranoid gamer lol.
GenoZStriker  +   917d ago
DOOMED!
GraveLord  +   917d ago
Megaman avatar? Nintendo fanboy troll.
For that I'll mark your comment as trolling and give you a disagree.
iamgoatman  +   917d ago
Not great at detecting sarcasm, eh?
Akiba96  +   917d ago
YEAH! A disagree and report. That'll show em!
3GenGames  +   917d ago
Last year the 3DS was gonna fail harder than the n-gage and fall into the depths of bad system hell....and then Nintendo laughed it to the bank. Sony will do the same, just shut up with these stupid articles.
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MariaHelFutura  +   917d ago
The Wii was suppose to fail aswell.
mike1up  +   917d ago
I know, is there some kind of Grand Prize for predicting the next system flop? Is there some kind of Psychic Nerd Hall of Fame that these author's are reaching for?

Way too many articles like this.
admiralvic  +   917d ago
A lot of people seem to misunderstand their goal or choose not to accept that goal. All of these articles are trying to get views by yellow journalism.

Not all of these articles are based off the vita failing, but putting it in the title gets views. This happens for every other market too... like Android is doomed next to iOS. Honeycomb sucks next to iOS 5 and ICS still isn't on par... etc. Naturally this causes people to bicker and thats about it.

Usually they're doom/gloom posts because they're easier to formulate. You can speculate on prior success all you want, but sales figures mean a lot more. People will also often forget who made these articles or move past it in the future.
ronin4life  +   917d ago
Oh dear god. I had managed to completely forget about the ngage.
Thanks for reminding me.....
...lol
^_^;
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belac09  +   917d ago
im sooo sick of all of these negative articles on N4G. it seems like all these wannabe reviewers are just hoping everything will fail, its not just the vita either, it seems like everyday i see articles like this, i personally cant wait for the vita and same with everyone i know so give it a rest, whoever is approving every single article that is anti gaming shouldnt be working for a gaming site.
doctorstrange  +   917d ago
*cough*
This article is about just how silly it is to proclaim the Vita doomed.
MariaHelFutura  +   917d ago
Like the news, people gravitate to negativity (don't blame N4G). It's unfortunate, but true. No one wants to hear about a 12 year old making technological break-throughs, they care about who's f++king who, who has what and who's a drug addict.
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knifefight  +   917d ago
Did you read the article though?

It's not negative. It's actually making the exact same point that YOU are making in your post.

Uh oh, you made a mistake in your first post of the thread! You're d000000med! :o
Hicken  +   917d ago
To be fair, and it's been mentioned above, the article's title lends you to believe it's yet another "Vita is Doomed" article. Once you actually get in and read it, it turns out to be not so, but you could easily argue that such a title was meant to generate hits by playing the flamebait angle.
JonnyBigBoss  +   917d ago
Vitaaa!!!!

I really loved what I played with at E3. I am equally as surprised by how poorly its selling as how the PS3 didn't dominate this generation. I must just be a sucker for modern games and powerful hardware.
LoveMyKids  +   917d ago
The 360 is doomed so shut up.
belac09  +   917d ago
i know i guess i didnt make myself clear, i liked the article, i was just ranting about every other article that brought on this article.
IAmCornHolio  +   917d ago
Over the long term, 7-10 years out, the Vita is doomed. Mark my words, it will be off the market by 2022.
ginsunuva  +   917d ago
I know it will be doomed in a dozen years.
Neko_Mega  +   917d ago
PS Vita is fine, but Nintendo has seen better days after their stocks drop big time because of the 3DS.

That price cut helps, but how much are they losing out of it?

Anyways only fanboys and trolls think Vita is doom.
DNAbro  +   916d ago
and only idiots think the 3DS is doomed with how well it's selling.
Brownghost  +   917d ago
look at the ps3's launch, it was considered a failure and was also considered doomed as well. Now its an amazing console doing really better. Sony knows what there doing and the vita will do well
Ezio2048  +   917d ago
wtf???
i have been so waiting for PS Vita since when and after reading this shitty article, i am still going to buy it day 1.
Sev  +   917d ago
It's clear you didn't read the article.
Ezio2048  +   917d ago
ohh sorry mate...
i just read the complete article..:P my bad!!
MadMax   917d ago | Trolling | show
bunfighterii  +   917d ago
This article nails it. While an impressive list of launch titles, there's really nothing to set the Japanese market alight there- Japan is RPG obsessed, and if you look back to the huge PSP moving titles, they were all JRPG ones.

On the other hand there's a list of launch titles bound to impress European, Australian and American gamers, particularly Uncharted.

Vita is far from doomed. It's the PS3 doomsday cult all over again, where they said it would fail and it's gone from strength to strength.
LettingGo  +   917d ago
Exactly! And honestly...the Vita will sell like crack the minute we get a good online FPS. I believe Resistance is the first one?
bunfighterii  +   917d ago
Personally I'm hanging out for Rockstar open world game. I'd like to see what they can do with a powerhouse handheld.
LettingGo  +   917d ago
The article title seems sarcastic. I didn't even have to read it to know they were kidding. You have to be able to pick up on small variations, people.
MRMagoo123  +   917d ago
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!
SegataShanshiro  +   917d ago
I swear this is Capcom's damn fault, they know that a monster hunter game is gonna make the vita sell like crazy and people are gonna zerg rush on it. Sony are so stupid as well because they should have paid capcom to have a monster hunter ready for the vita at launch...look how many people bought the monster hunter for 3ds and everyone of those is a costumer lost to nintendo. Just saying, the gamins industry is all backwards nowadays i swear....with this munster hunter tactic even i could have made the ps vita sucessful (assuming they gonna listen to me)
Trenta27  +   916d ago
I'm going to laugh when this thing does fail. All of you people defending it are pretty much using the same thing over and over again. "It hasn't hit the US yet! It'll save it!" I can't wait to see if it does help it or not.

If it works, good for you guys. You guys have a awesome handheld. I'll probably get it as well, then.
If not, haha.
Cablephish  +   916d ago
When everyone finds out Fort Knox doesn't have any gold, then sh*t will really hit the fan.
death2smoochie  +   916d ago
More games and a price drop and sales for the Vita will rise...
Exactly what happened with the 3DS.

Not too many consumers will shell out $250 for a hand held gaming device....History has shown this time and again.

The Vita will do just fine. Enough of these doom day articles.
jjb1981  +   916d ago
Just wait until they harness its full power, mwuhahaha!
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   916d ago
Imagine that. Sony coming out of the gates with a crappy high price point.

Guess they didn't learn from the PS3 launch fiasco. Times are different. People don't have the money to waste on a handheld toy like this.

250 will go to a home console instead.
Virtual_Reality  +   916d ago
''Guess they didn't learn ''

The PS3 launch was different, from games to the hardware. A Blu ray device alone in 2006 was at $800 or MORE but Sony decided with $600 - $500 for PS3.

Sony failed at there, also because of the lack of games at launch.

PS Vita launch is different, Sony DID LEARN, from PS3 launch, also from PSP GO disappointment.

PS Vita have variety of games for it's launch.
And it have a good price point for top notch Hardware that other Portable gaming devices/Phones don't have. That device could cost more than $400 EASILY.
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TopDudeMan  +   916d ago
Haters hate, gamers game.

Now is the time to decide which you are.
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paddystan  +   916d ago
How can Vita be doomed when it has not been released in USa and Europe yet?
tubers  +   916d ago
CoD, LBP, UC, MvsC3, KZ, Resistance?

A lot of those also thrive because of decent form of multi players.. w/c I doubt the VITA would have.

If you'd need to do some Ad Hoc then might as well play on the PS3.

Unless.. there's wifi and VITA only implementation of online gaming with no intervention of the PS3. Then, the VITA might have gained more appeal.
neogeo  +   916d ago
DOOM I TELL YA! DOOM!
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