Sony's PS3 might be struggling to out-punch rivals Wii and Xbox 360 on shop shelves currently, but the next four years will see it biting Wii's heels.
By that time the 360 will have established it's user base and made it's profits. The next Xbox console should launch 2012, since a 7 year lifespan is very respectable, and come in with better hardware. I don't know about anyone else, but the timeline laid out here really favors the 360. Great news. Although I can see this is intended to be a negative, I think anyone with common sense can see this is good news.
All the people who have their 360's died on them will switch to the PS3 for their gaming needs. Microsoft will never make profit in the gaming devision since they lost 1 billion dollars or more on their defective console. I would be caution in buying their new next gen system if they ever decided to release it..lol..
And I totally agree Except that... on a personal level, I hope theres a new xbox by 2009 (crosses fingers)
but haven't u notice, they forecasting that just at the end of 2008 the PS3 will overstep xbox360..? which seems cool to me.
Well, the fact of the matter, is that this is a prediction...nothing more, nothing less. I can also predict some really wild stuff. Doesn't mean it will come true. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind seeing the PS3 be poised to take the lead at all. After four failed Xbox 360s, I'm giving up and selling the one I have. Its really a shame too, I really liked the games for it and I think that XBox Live is an great service that offers a really good value. I must admit that I do take issue with some of the DLC/DRM policies and such, but that is for a another discussion. If I recall correctly, I thought that MS had mentioned that the expected lifespan of the 360 is something like 5 -7 years anyhow, which, to me makes sense. With that being said, its going to be interesting to see how and if Sony reacts to a new Xbox in 2010 or so. Would that mean that the PS4 will come out in the same time frame relegating the PS3 to a PS2 type status. The next-gen (beyond 360/PS3) should really be interesting. I can't imagine that MS or Sony would change architectures too much next time since that would just slow launch titles. If I had to guess, I would guess that you will see consoles with more memory, a High-Def media player of choice (Blu-Ray/HD-DVD), updated GPUs and CPUs that are basically expansions of the current CPUs. An example would be a Cell processor with two cores and SPU sets for each core and a shared cache. Perhaps a quad or six core CPU for the next Xbox. Anyway, I digress. Predictions like this are fun and cater to the fans of the particular console. Take it with a grain of salt. Just enjoy the games available for your console of choice. It is a choice after all.
I disagreed. But I simply believe, the next generation after PS3/360 will have a hard time. The main reason I see, is that how much more realism does one need ? If this next generation cannot come up with something the current gens can't do, then, well, I see no need for people to upgrade again - 2011 is just 4 ye...well, not really... its just 3 years away. No matter what, this is way to early to compete against a PS3 (or even against the 360 itself). Especially because a new console with more power cannot beat the price these consoles will sell by then. I could possibly imagine a new console by 2015/2017, but not earlier. And only if the tech is affordable and can run 1080p sustained @ 60fps with 10x the polycount we have now at 720p to really utilize the by then available 1080p TV market penetration. I do not believe, a Wii-like controller concept will work a second time, either. Maybe, all of the consoles will have that by then - I doubt it, though. So, say, I have all my TVs replaced by 2015 (which is most likely not - I will add 2 more 32"/720p for my kids, and get another 50+" 1080p later), and I am pretty sure, my games lib at that point will be sufficient (probably all PS3s for games and BD movies). I personally might look for some ueber-super console then, but I certainly won't replace any other. BTW: I asked my kids if they'd prefer a Wii or another PS3 for Christmas, and they said "another PS3"...surprising, but my Wii is off my shopping list, all of a sudden. (huh?)
You're lousy system aint no way in HELL ever going to catch the 360 in sales..........NEVA! Software companies support the 360 the most,it has the head start and gives you better choices,America fvcking LOVES it more than the PS3(worlds biggest game market),multi plats are better(but should have never been, 4d my ass),and way easier to development on(cost effective). You've been one-two punched this gen and soon to be tko'd by MSs next gen beast. Go ahead and take my bubbles ya little Sonydweebs,it's the only victory you'll get this gen.......you understand me kids? Your sore losing asses have just been handed to you by your friendly neighborhood Tomcat. P.S. Here's a tip, get off of N4sonyG, and buy some stinkin games..........hmmmm how about Lair LOLLOL.
PS4..... & don't tell me about the Xbox 900 ok. I don't wanna hear that $hit....
I don't know anyone that would switch to the PS3 that has a 360 already. At least not at this point. The games, the online features, and the graphics just haven't proved themselves yet on the PS3. Not to mention the attach rate for the 360 is more than the PS3's and the Wii's combined attach rate. developers are more interested in making games for the 360 at this point. Until that changes the PS3 will not catch up.
IVE SAID IT ALL ALONG.i wouldnt say it and repeat it to u bots if it werent true. 2008 IS THE DEATH OF 360.Compare uncharted to anything the 360 hasfor the past 2 years.THEN just look at the game lineup for each console in 2008........then look at all the hw problems the 360 has. After youre done with that long ass list of hw issues, look into each consoles attributes, or functions persay. Finally look who makes it: microsoft, such a overrated company that there ZUNE doesnt even work on WINDOWS VISTA. PS3: more bang for your buck 360: more hw failure for your buck history repeats itself. i repeat myself, xbots will sh1t themselves. GAME ON
....Xbox will have to come out with yet another sku to comepte with PS3. I wonder how many xbox [email protected] will go and secretly buy a PS3. "Come to the Dark Side" PS3 -FTW !!! XBOX360 - RROD !!!!
I think the PS3 and 360 sales are accurate but i dont think the Wii will last that long.
But just look at the sonyfanboys.. how low they are going.....man...that must be low..2011.. come on don't bullshi* me.. by then sony will not be making money..they will be crying for puting Blu ray in the console HAHAHA i love this website
I got seven disagrees and lost a bubble for agreeing with the story and finding a positive spin on it? Whelp, I guess that shows what happens if you have an opinion.
If you decided to click the link and not read the title. It says PS3 to catch WII in 2011, they forecasted the PS3 to overtake the 360 by 2008.
is already outdated.
I don't think its already outdated. However, it will be soon. The problem with 360 is the low quality and that matters for people with brains.. and most of us have brains..
Enh? The Wii is more outdated than both systems, yet looks who's selling more than who...
i just approve this story... just let them have fun with this
who is the most respected analyst in the industry also believes PS3 will win(within its next 9-10 years of life) You have to understand that you can basically imagine the PS3 just now launching.... at 400$....with a good games catalogue...and as Sony has said with at lesat 9 years of life left.(sony will make their money back). Guess what? Blu Ray has already won. It's only the end of year one. Look at PS3's 2008 lineup and beyond hahahahaa. Everyone KNOWS PS3 is gonna win. The PS3 is already saling much much better worldwide.... with not one really "blockbuster" title yet. People like to pretend like the Playstation brand hasn't sold a million consoles on their last 2 consoles...and like the 130 milion PS2 owners have bought a console.hahahahahaha, Its buisness. Do you think the Wii is gonna be outselling a 250$, Blu Ray playing PS3 with games like Gran Turismo 5, Resident Evil 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Killzone 2, Unreal Touranment 3, Final Fantasy 13 adn sooo much more? The Wii won't win this whole generation....yea it will be ahead for a good while but its not gonna take a DRAMATIC lead or anything. PS3 is already staying too close at 400$ with no big hitters yet. The Playstation brand is BY FAR the strongest on the market....even if somem like to hate....everyone wants playstation. Its not a full Hardcore machine like the 360, nor a childs toy like the Wii... its is the nicest quality All-Around machine. It is by far the most diverce system with hardcare FPS, The best RPG and Racing game on any concole(Final Fantasy and Gran Turismo), awewsome fun action games(God of War3, Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Infamous,The getaway), awesome innovative games like the eye of judjement, Buzz, Singstar, everyday shooter and Playstation HOME(with so much more to come in the pver the years. How about your hard core shooters? try the exclusives Unreal Tournament 3, Haze, Killzone 2, Metal Gear sold 4, Metal Gear Online, Resistance:FOM 2 (which is going to look amazing and Insomniac has said will run at TWICE the speed of Ratchet and Clank...which already runs amazing) This is only 2008 and maybe a little of 2009. PS3 is gonna bring the fight for A LONG TIME. The PS3 has a little bit of a rough start(even though it has sold 7 million which is better than the 360) but lets just pretend it didn't happen. Lets pretend the PS3 just lauched at 399$...with a huge awesome catalouge of games and a 9 year life cycle ahead af it. Its so weird really.... the PS3 came out last but its almost as if everyone expects the PS3 to still win. haha. When the PS3 first released....me along with quite a few of my friends all talked crap about it as if we knew what we were talking about.... and as of now..I just got my PS3....AND EVERY ONE OF MY FREINDS WANTS ONE. (keep in mind the aren't desperate Sony hating fanboys but gamers) PS3 will win. The ONLY DIFFERENCE this generation is that the I belive you will see the Wii sale MUCH better this generation. Can it stand the test of time and sale like a Playstation? Who knows. I hope so... the Wii at least is trying to do SOMETHING new. Not just release a faulty, defective system and try to hide it....while only releasing shooters and Sci Fi games your average 16 year old American boy will call "cool". Long live the PS3. It will win in the end. @ the 16 year old kiddie below... GOOD make up your mind then and stay in the 360 or Wii threads lololol...you have to understand... the PS3 doesn't need you... It's gonna do fine without you
I've just had it with PS3. I'm sick of defending them when they are simply getting crushed by Wii and 360. I was a playstation fan because I got use to them with the PS2. But now it's been hell, having to see 360 with the better games like Dead Rising and Bioshock, and my favorite games like Silent Hill and Grand Theft Auto being multi platform and lead developed on 360. Both those games will be slighly better on 360 because that's the console they were made on. PS3 may do well in the future and I wish it the best of luck, But I'm not gonna live forever and for me as a gamer it's about right now, not waiting for great games that might develope in the future. So I'm sorry but I'm done with PS3. I'm moving on to making 360 my console of choice. And I'm only sorry I wasted so much time lingering over the PS3's problems. It's not my fight. PS3 doesn't deserve my loyatly. Again, I'm only sorry I wasted so much time. I'm only 1 person, and I don't make a difference, but I've made my choice. Should of made it along time ago.
it is just you...
They were heading off in some random direction at the start and they have paid the price for it, but I think things are on track again.
Thats the route of a real gamer....not that FPS plagued 360
Why have you got a Final Fantasy Avatar?
there you go let it all come out.. & welcome to the family my freind.. now who is next here
but abandoning the ps3 will be your loss mark my words . good luck with your gaming
we just lost one.....but u just lost one. 1.4 please....
With a name like your's, surprised you stayed this long. Your reasoning is premature and ridiculous. Every PS fan knows Sony has done major mistakes which has lead to alot of frustrations but the tide is clearly turning in Sony's favour....they are really starting to deliver. And we still have millions of casual gamers who are Ps2 owners still waiting for the price to get even lower to buy their Ps3. Add to that developers becoming more familiar with the Ps3 and using it as the lead platform....better quality games. Buy the product from a world class COMPETITIVE H/W manufacturer - Sony Buy the product from a second class MONOPOLISTIC S/W manufacturer - Microsoft. Tough decision huh? You are so wise. Yeah, go an worship Microsoft and stay outta the Ps3 section especially with that disrectful name of your Ps. I also have an xbox 360 but only for the exclusives(Halo3, Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War are my current library) as I am a gamer. But everything else is Ps3 as it has and is delivering....a year late but still delivering.
I think you are making a mistake... abandoning the Ps3 right before 08?? okay, Sorry if I won't be surprised if you say the EXACT same thing about the 360 a year from now. People like you expected WAY too much from PS3's first year out. Now you want to abandon the PS3 in order to chase MS's old news. MS shot their wad in 2 months just to get guys like you. Now, they have nothing except games that are already months old. Well have fun. I'm not saying "don't get an XBOX" Even I have one. I just think you are being a little weak minded and will going back and forth for no reason. I'm all about games asa much as the next guy. But I'm also about quality, and waiting for good things, not flash in the pan successes. I felt the same impatience and now suffer RROD's and "cookie-cutter" games, all system's have their vices...Anyways have fun, and yes, life IS short...
I thought the Wii was a fad...wonder what you call a long-term fad...
a gimmick? lmfao i don't know. Problem with the wii is that they're gaining casual gamers but losing hardcore gamers. And I'm pretty sure hardcore gamers buy more games than casual ones do.
i wonder what Halo 4.5 will look like but really I cant wait to see what Sony's online community will look like in 4 years
Why do you fight so hard for your one console? Does my owning a PS3 affect you at all? Do you really lay awake at night hoping for the downfall of the Wii? Are you so loyal to your XBOX that you can't see the benefit in anything else? Fanboys (all fanboys btw) are the most narrow minded people on this planet. Competition makes all of our consoles better. The only people that care about console sales are the owners of those companies. Congratulations, your mentality just made Bill gates another 300 dollars. What did it do for you?
Fanboys, regardless of system choice, have a base logic that makes sense. 1. No one wants to admit spending money on the wrong thing. So they'll eventually convince themselves everything else is inferior. 2. The consoles that are sold, is a direct influence on how many games and what types of games will be made. So by promoting or hoping your system of choice succeeds, you're promoting the possibility of, or hoping for, a great game library. This is simple economics. And whether or not fanboys realize it, their tendencies are strongly rooted in the business side of it.
But please bear in mind that there really is no "wrong" choice for a console. all of them have good points and bad, you make a purchase based on which of the good is more important to you. all consoles have exclusives and strive to be the #1 brand. there really is no bad choice this generation, regardless of what opinions are. Failing to see the benefits of any console make you a fanboy. The Wii is selling huge because it hits to a very broad audience. PS and XBOX have a hardcore fanbase that look (IMO) to one or two games that they really love to play and will defend that sytem no matter what.
Cant see how people can say one console will have sold more than the other, how do they know? No one knows, unless they from the future :| Its just guesses as no one knows whats going to happen for sure yet.
by 2011, LOLOLOLOLOL! PS3 am doomed.
The red lights of death is dooming all the 360s.I am surprise that the 360 isn't actually wiping the floor right now..they only have 6 million lead over the ps3..I bet you the PS3 can easily catch up and pass it next year or early 09 ...
by 2011 does not mean PS3 will pass 360 after 2011. It simply means PS3 is going to pass 360 within the time frame 2008-2011..
2011 i'll be looking for the next generation.. so if sony is suppose to pass wii then i guess ps4 is not coming out after sony loses this generation.......its going to be wii , then xbox360 and sony last....cause variety counts...but you have a bunch of clowns claiming to be hardcore gamers and dont know the definition.....i'll give you a simple one...explain to me why call of duty 4 is more hardcore then pacman and dont tell me cause of call of duty 4 has guns then you have no sense of what hardcore is since they are both challenging and yet pacman is easier for everyone to pick up and play... and trust me it would be easy for me to make a few point in call of duty 4's favor. but i believe so many people are just parrots that they will never be able to make one good point..and the wii will win.
what are you talking about Hardcore gamer ?? cod4 ?? pac man ?? what are you bringing to the table here ?? i'll tell you what gibberish clueless tripe no one knows how this generation is going to pan out even if some think they do, all people can do is offer opinion which is inturn guesswork not fact being a "hardcore" gamer has nothing to do with anything remotely resembling this thread
Sales have slowed down everywhere in the world every since the ps3 and wii cane out and it has sold less then 3 million systems in the year after its introduction its only a matter of time b4 we see it comes out that its failing again.
SONYs playstation 3 are worth alot more than it gains atm. It's going in the right direction!
we have 5 continents in the world and all i read is xbox usa, but u know, were the excelents games are made of... the most important games is japan, and the brand is japan loyal is nintendo and sony. i dont think ps4 will not come out, and the wii will have a more power console of the 3 in te future generation. i think xbox 360 is a mediocre console, yesterday i was playing mass effec it was 4 am and all my family was asleep and the damm noise wake my mother. the 360 do RRoD twice so i think the damm think is mediocre (gametarg:niratum) i have the ps3 and no damm noise and is excelente ok (ps id: niratum) i have the wii, and the wii is dusted cuz i dont use it so belive, ps3 and wii will be the winners this generation, the next one, will be so close, cuz all the xbox fan base.... i think the next gen console will be greath and the major 3 companies (maybe apple or sega) will jump and will be a great time to be a gamer. and all the people, i wass playing cuz im on vacations (medicine schoool 2 year)
Oh well I've never cared about sales figures... XBOX was my console of choice last gen and X360 will be my choice this gen (unless the PS3 becomes the system of choice of western developers and that is appearing to be a big IF)
I love em both. Time is tough and money is tight, but I'm in need of some SERIOUS PS3 love! Won't be long till I get one and I can be as lucky as some of you. All consoles PWN. ROCK ON!!!!!! Bon
nice flame bait article, this should be good *sits back to watch*
*grabs lunch and hits refresh* ;)
schizophrenia.limps.on and on. LOL!
well take your ff avatar out then if your gonna leave ps
That game will probably be re-released one day, on one of the future handhelds.
2011 does seem like a long time away. But what needs to factor is that Sony Computer Entertainmen strives for longevity throughout the course of each one of their consoles. Sony's PLAYSTATION 3® Home Entertainment System is no different. With the long term course well directed and thought out in mind spells one invetiable conclusion to the console war. The PLAYSTATION 3® will have sold more units than the XBOX 360 disrespectfully and the Nintendo Wii respectfully. $niper
It's funny to me how Sony fanboys just "assume" history will repeat it's self, all the while their favorate console is the one thats realy "lagging" behind. Why is it always blind predictions of the future with articles about the PS3? Don't get me wrong I like my PS3 but I sure as hell don't see it doing anywhere near as well as the PS2.
people think sony cant be touched............. ive been hearing how sony is going to rule the world for years now. when it's nintendo kicking ass and microsoft is pretty neck to neck with them.
sounds right, could happen. Xbox dead last again.
Xbox was 2nd last gen, Gamecube was last. Still have my GameCube, it's in the closet next to my PS2.
you could say xbox and gamecube where tied for last. xbox had more hardware sales and gamecube had more software sales.
dispite 'console wars' being an obsurd spectator event, the 'winner' tends to not be based purely on profit, but how many consoles get sold.. it's all a strange concept anyway and a personal victory some people need to appease their inner 8 year old .. Maybe you're thinking of street rules :P. Gamecube came last (hmm.. dreamcast?) in history weather you have a lodgical answer about profit margins or not. so it is written.. In summary.. this news is for shareholders...
There predictions are already wrong. The wii is BARELY above the 360 in market share right now and the they show the ps3 surpassing 360 by time we start year 2008. Not bloodly likely, since theres nothing worth playing on the ps3 right now, there very worried about the future. Meanwhile whoever has a 360 can enjoy the most and the best of gaming right now with a pretty shiny future ahead. I see alot more people buy 360's then ps3's. And definately more interested in the games it offers. We shall see how Grand Theft Auto 4 and a price drop helps microsoft. That's what im expecting and i don't get why the Wii is so damn successful that thing seriously needs to die off. All we need next generation is sub par graphics and motion sensitive controls on all our consoles.
you say there is nothing worth playing on ps3 right know lol,So i guess a bunch of overated/overhyped shooters would be better right.Sorry to burst your bubble but the ps3 is gonna outsell xbox 360 in 2008 whether you like it or not.Ms has no games for the future,there only hope is gears 2 which will probably come out in 2009.
Ain't gonna happen...those PS-brand franchises don't sell like the used to. Mark my words. There is no way the PS3's weak GPU is gonna be able to keep up with the rest of the industry.
"Ain't gonna happen...those PS-brand franchises don't sell like the used to. Mark my words. There is no way the PS3's weak GPU is gonna be able to keep up with the rest of the industry" Ok, thats pretty funny. The GPU in the PS3 is not "weak". I will be the first to admit that it may not be quite as powerful as the one in the 360, but its certainly not weak. They are pretty equal in power and capabilities. They use very different architectures to achieve the end result. You should also keep in mind that just because you see "jaggies" on the screen or something not quite the right color, that it does not mean that its the fault of the GPU or the hardware. That goes for both ports to the PS3 and to the 360. A lot of those issues have to do with the dev teams doing their jobs and learning the ins and outs of the respective systems. Again, the GPU in the PS3 is not "weak" nor is it superior to the 360's GPU. Its a bit of a different story if you want to compare those chipsets to the latest offerings from both ATi and nVidia for the PC market.
The PS3 isn't struggling analyst or whoever needs to drop that term the PS3 is outselling the 360 everywhere excpet NA *FOR NOW* next year I can see sales for the PS3 pick up even more...and I personally hope that this generation of consoles....last more than the tpical 4 years...well the PS3 won't drop out of the race in 4 years can't say the same for the 360/Wii EDIT:@below Last time I check the UK is apart of EU..? im sure you don'see sales chart about the PS3 out selling the 360 in California huh..? BTW the whole waitstation tag line is old...I have too many games for my PS3 that I haven't even finished a couple of them..not to mention still haven't downloaded PAIN yet..and there's so many GREAT PSN exclusives games so there' never a dull moment beign a PS3 owner
what about the UK... oi did you forget...people in the UK....which like the 360 more the big thinin What ever they call it...was it waitstation 3 or playstation 3 who knows.. *******Edit******** i can't post anymore but who says i can't edit my posts.. hahah don't hate on the player guys, hate on the game...(which is me, stop giving me bad rep..)it will never stop me..
well now i enjoy the PS3 and the Xbox360, but the future looks bright for the PS3 thx to all the exclusive games that will be released in 2008/2009, and i think xbox360s best times are almost already gone... Wii will produce 90% casual games, so i don't really care, cause i am more of a hardcore gamer.