With countless gamers complaining about Skyrim’s glitches, and the feeling that companies are putting ‘unfinished products’ out onto the market, Mark Butler looks at the issue of bugs in games – and to what extent we should tolerate them.
It's too much when it stops you from being able to enjoy then game.
skyrim is unacceptable and just garbage on the ps3. its become a slideshow. no way this gets GOTY. There are other games with much better polish.
Too late. It's already won countless GOTY awards and they're all well deserved.
Well deserved? What.... because there is "so much content"? People like you are the reason Bethesda is able to get away with piss poor developing, and still walk away with game of the year awards... Seriously... everytime Skyrim wins a GOTY my faith in gaming is lowered and lowered. And if you are going to tell me, im just a hater..... I put 150 hrs on Skyrim in PS3.... and the game just makes me sick to the stomach knowing that this unplayable, broken game won over 87 GOTY's... God Skyrim winning GOTY is gamers and the gaming presses greatest failiure of all time... We can not keep supporting Bethesda because they never flipping learn!
@MsclMexican So let me get this straight. A game you claim is "broken" and worst of all, "UNPLAYABLE", you've put a whopping 150 hours into? Let me say that one more time. ONE HUNDRED and FIFTY HOURS. Over 5 days of NON-STOP playing time on an unplayable game? How is that possible? My faith in gamers is lowered every time I hear someone claim a game is broken that they put 150 hours into. Oh Skyrim so broken, screw you Bethesda, you get away with this because people defend you. OH BUT WAIT!! I'm not a hater, I played Skyrim 150 hours, even though it's completely broken and unplayable. RIIIIIIIIGHT.
Haha. Who cares if it's broke on the PS3? Do you think GOTY people look at what system it's on or the game itself? P.S. Game of the Year and the other awards are retarded, same with sales.
I have skyrim on ps3 and im past 150 hours. All the "unplayable" articles are bs and it just shows how overly entitled gamers have become. Just disable all the autosaves except for travel and the framerate will be much better. Also the markarth glitch is fixable. Sneak into markarth, sneak into the temple of talos, talk to the guards, say you were framed, kill the guards, wait 2 days, get arrested (no skill loss), glitch fixed.
really? for me it lags every 30 seconds. its f**** annoying.. i have put 40+ hours, and put it down until this mess is corrected. ive been playing dark souls meanwhile
How are they BS? Because you don't experience it, its BS? Yeah, doing that is known to many already. It helps, but still doesn't explain how such an issue even got past testing. Its like in your face. Why should you have to deal with that? And to do all that, is tedious. Shouldn't be the case, but like I said, some stuff would get overlooked, but the lagging/crashing, sorry. I'm stunned there. PS: Experiences vary.
I do experience glitches. The point is that they dont break the game and many are either fixable or you are able to curb them to some extent. Fast traveling multiple times will slow the framerate faster, only do it when you need to and when the framerate gets too bad (takes about 3 hours for me), reload the game and you will be good for another few hours. The markarth glitch fix is not tedious if your sneak skill is moderately high. I did it at a skill level of 60. You just need to make sure you are unseen until you get to the temple of talos and initiate the conversation with the guard. Also, the sanguine rose quest fixes the markarth glitch. I had already passed it by the time markarth glitched up on me though.
What's funny is people complain about these glitches and they should have been found in testing. You think testing this game was as easy to test as a linear game like Gears or Uncharted? Unless you are a game programmer or a tester and know what you are talking about, why don't you just shut up since none of you know what you are talking about.
its not math.
For me, I did expect a few things to pop up. No doubt, its a huge game. However, when something such as the freezing/lagging with save files and other issues. How did those issues not get noticed in testing, or was it just negligence?
We can argue and reason all we want about the amount and types of bugs before it effects the gameplay or enjoyment. The fact is as long we keep giving the publishers our money first, we are telling the publishers that it's okay to ship the games with full of bugs. There are plenty of reviews and forums discussion about games today. Just give it a few days after the new game comes out and we should have decent feel of the bugs. If we have to rush to pre-order and buy the new games on day 1, then too bad that the games turn out to be very buggy. You are the one who made the decision to give the publishers your money first before the product has been evaluated for the quality and bugs. Amount of bugs in the game needs to be part of the overall game review rating. I know developers and publishers will hate reviews showing their game being buggy but that's the price of choosing to ship unpolished game. It doesn't matter if most of the bugs do get fixed after 6-12 months later because reviewers are mostly written when the game just came out and gamers who read the reviews need to know how buggy the game at the same time. If not, the reviews are being dishonest because the reviewers can say the game is good but the gamers who read the reviews have no idea that the game is also very buggy. Since I stopped buying any game at release time in the last 3 years until I'm quite sure the game has been decently patched several months later, I found playing games are a lot more enjoyable without having a lot of nasty bugs are part of the gaming experience. If not, publishers will continue to ship the games unpolished with a lot of bugs. Complain all you want because the publishers already got your money.
I stopped playing my copy for PS3. It freezes literally every 30 minutes. And every time it does, my most recent save gets corrupted or its just not there at all. I tried deleting the game data (to revert back to non-patched) and that just doesn't fix the problem. And on top of that, it lags often as well. And no, its not my system, either. I can play any of my other games for extended periods of time without any freezing.
What p*sses me off the most is when they release very buggy games, then refuse to fix them due to lower than expected sales. So they expect me to pay £45 for a broken game they have no intention of fixing, and then bitch and moan about the 2nd hand market, maybe if they fixed the game more people would have bought it new. My most recent broken game has been Splatterhouse, the amount of glitches in it is beyond a joke.
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