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Submitted by dirigiblebill 1281d ago | news

Ken Levine "disappointed" by focus on breasts in Bioshock Infinite

OXM UK: "Irrational Games boss Ken Levine has told OXM he's saddened by the section of Bioshock Infinite discussion that has focused on leading lady Elizabeth's eye-catching physique." (BioShock: Infinite, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

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Nicaragua  +   1281d ago
awww, he's saddened by the boobies
dark-hollow  +   1281d ago
Boo hoo give me a break!

It just a women with big breasts.
Females have breasts. Is that something to be ashamed or shy off?
At least it is reasonable size not the japanisque-oversized melons!
Tanir  +   1281d ago
exactly.....not like her breasts are covered only by a gem or something, shes still very clothed. i mean if i go outside i will see cleavage. from the old, underage to people my age. boobies are everywhere.

thats like being upset about a focus on hair or a face -_-. aslong as its not ridiculous like rumble roses then theres no prob

besides, corsets always make breast look like that. so whats the prob?
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beastgamer  +   1281d ago
hey, I like those japanisque-oversized melons!
smashcrashbash  +   1281d ago
Agreed. I has reached a point where a woman having big breasts in any type of media is a problem. I had friends who had very ample breast sizes and they were still smart, funny,interesting women.As long as that isn't the main focus of the character who cares what size her breasts are? What, do you have to be flat chested to have a personality or something?
gamingdroid  +   1281d ago
***At least it is reasonable size not the japanisque-oversized melons!***

That technically isn't reasonably sized though. Most women don't have breasts that size unless they had surgery.

That said, Levine if you don't want people to focus on it perhaps you should NOT make it that large and then have a low cut to the point where I feel nipples are about to pop out.

Just a though to the master mood and story teller....

That said, I like it and hope they keep it!!! :D
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JBaby343  +   1281d ago
^^ Those are not over-sized. She is wearing a corset so they are popping more than in normal clothes but I would say she is a full C-cup. Definitely not bigger than D so pretty average.

I like boobs of all different sizes from these to the "Japanisque-oversized melons". The more boobs the better so I say bring 'em on.
Parapraxis  +   1281d ago
I'm with JBaby343 on this.
She's wearing a corset, they can make average bosoms looks big....lol...bosoms.
MmaFan-Qc  +   1281d ago
oh nooooo, nice boobies burned my eyes!
RedSky  +   1281d ago
Have you guys heard of the word pandering?
ThirstyforFanta  +   1281d ago
Retard he's not talking about that..
He's just mad that people focus on her boobs instead of this incredible game
crxss  +   1281d ago
it's simple really. if you don't want people to pay attention to them why make them so big Ken?
Sarcasm  +   1281d ago
Here's the scenario,

A hot naked woman is spreading her legs in front of you but she's happen to have her hair done.

10 out of 10 will not notice the hair.

Point is Ken, when you make boobs like those, nobody's going to notice her eyes.
Nemo88  +   1281d ago
OMG I couldnt beleive the headline so had to read this... seriously, how fricking stupid is this story?
There are men complaining about getting a boner off girl with cleavage in a video game?? Because it will distract them?? And the producer is interviewed and now having to defend it? To men??? By the way those are NOT huge or only achievable by surgery. That is just ridiculous and shows inexperience! looooooool!!!
SilentNegotiator  +   1280d ago
Well, it's not like Ken Levine, the Irrational Games boss, has any power over......wait a frickin' minute...
bozebo  +   1280d ago
"instead of this incredible game "
What makes it incredible? It isn't out yet.

It could easily be trash, probably not, but it could. Don't instantly put faith into a game just because the previous titles were good (BS2 not so much...) or they will stop putting effort in and release trash that they know people will buy, it happens all the time and it has happened to other series.

Anyway, on topic. Boobs... so what? It's a game. It doesn't matter either way. I like the cartoony approach they have taken with her character in general.
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sikbeta  +   1280d ago
lol dudes, arguing about breast sizes for real? who the hell cares...
upallnightgamer  +   1280d ago
While I do like the way she looks, cleavage bared and all, shouldn't we be focusing on how she can manipulate the space-time continuum to her will?
Saladfax  +   1280d ago
From the comments above, it doesn't seem like people understand the issue.

It's not that breasts are at all unpleasant. I'd argue that many people in the world actually find them *very* pleasant.

However, if the purpose of making big, cleavagey breasts doesn't serve characterization or aesthetics, then all it does is pander. Why do you think there are so few decently-developed female characters in gaming?
MariaHelFutura  +   1281d ago
If you build it, they will come.

Take that how you want.
perfectCarbonara  +   1281d ago
OMG I feel terrible I hit the disagree button by accident. Just so you know I meant to hit agree. That was funny.
chazjamie  +   1281d ago
its weird i only noticed her boobs until now. i guess there was no reason to be sad kev. but thanks for reminding me kev (about the boobs)
Solid_Snake37  +   1281d ago
Can't please em all, right
Euthanasia78  +   1281d ago
You can't please all the people all the time. If He is so anti boob, He shouldn't of made such lucious digital titties. Just sayin.
Flavor  +   1280d ago
Levine is just spouting some plastic chivalry right there. That character design was carefully crafted and approved because it hits right to the core audience - socially isolated/inadequate males. What better fetish than a doe eyed tezuka-meets-hefner waif to cry over them, and to need them?
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Play2Win  +   1281d ago
there can't be enough boobs
Redempteur  +   1280d ago
Ok ok i'll look at her ass next time...
MsclMexican  +   1281d ago
Well of course he is upset..

He is trying to make an emotional game, and he wants people to care about Elizabeth because of the character she is.... not because of her boobs.

I mean, they are not trying to make Lara Croft, a character who only became famous due to sex appeal.

Ken Levine wants to make an emotional game, and the fact that people are only interested in the game because of Elizabeth's boobs makes him sad.

For all that effort he put into the story and world are being overlooked by a pair of digitally made tits.

Im getting this game because I love Bioshock and I really love the story and this world Ken and the rest of Irrational has created. Elizabeth being very attractive is just a bonus

@Jbaby343

The reason is because in 1943 that was the style of dresses that "the wealthy" women wore. By showing excessive clevage, it indicated your status to the rest of the people around you. I dont recall what it is called but that is why she shows clevage

Irrational though that gamers were mature enough.... but they forgot how every soccer mom has bought her kid an xbox 360...
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JBaby343  +   1281d ago
Maybe the cleavage shouldn't have been made so obvious then. If you put something out there you can't get upset when people notice.
AKS  +   1281d ago
She has unusually large breasts for her tiny frame. I think her waist is about the size of my wrist, yet she has fairly substantial curves. If you make any character with such unusual proportions, the audience tends to notice, especially males. It seems to be a basic common sense issue to me. You wouldn't get nearly as much attention focused on her body if they had given her more realistic proportions. It's the fact that her breasts are enormous for her frame, not the outfit. If she had normal sized breasts proportional to her frame in the same outfit, no one would make big deal out of it.

I certainly have no problem whatsoever with a curvy figure, but their design of Elizabeth looks so top heavy and disproportionate that she might tip over if a breeze hit her.
JBaby343  +   1281d ago
Maybe I'm used to seeing women with curvy figures (I love them) but she does not look that disproportionate to me. As I stated above she is wearing a corset which causes her boobs to "pop" a more than normal clothes would but otherwise she looks like about a C-cup which is not strange even for a small frame.
AKS  +   1281d ago
Elizabeth's bust to waist to hips ratios are fairly similar to those of Jennifer Love Hewitt's.

http://images3.wikia.nocook...

http://corset.pagesperso-or...

As much as I would like a build such as Love Hewitt's to be common or typical, it just isn't, and I can assure you every guy in the room notices her figure everywhere she goes. Not the design choice you want to go with if you don't want people to notice her figure.
Human Analog  +   1281d ago
@ AKS. Jennifer Love Is one of my favorites. Good eye for detail. I'll tell you what. It is about the whole package for me. When she put his hands around her neck and was crying, I felt the emotion. Boob or no boobs. With good writing (Ken will deliver), she will be an awesome character.
AKS  +   1281d ago
@Human Analog

I am not saying she won't be a great character. I'm just saying that Levine shouldn't be surprised or upset that Elizabeth's figure is noticed by so many considering the look they gave her. She might still be an awesome character in a great game. I hope that's how it turns out.
Persistantthug  +   1281d ago
Don't mind me folks...
I'm just here for the breasts. :)
finbars75  +   1281d ago
who care if hes saddened why the hell would you push your game until the summer thats bigger news to me.god dam you ken levine
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AlienLion  +   1281d ago
He's missing the point. Everyone knows that if a woman has big nukes, she is obviously a very good person and what happens to her is important.
WetN00dle69  +   1281d ago
They look great from where im standing!
CrimsonEngage   1281d ago | Offensive
Baka-akaB  +   1281d ago
why the hell are you guys debating if it's natural or not ?

Her face isnt even natural nor is anyone's . It's a game with a distinct somewhat cartoony design , not some attempt at realism
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Andronix  +   1281d ago
Ken is 'saddened' by the discussion of the big breast HE put in the game! Ha ha! If he doesn't think it's relevant he could always change them for smaller ones. But he doesn't, why do you think that is?
clearelite  +   1281d ago
If anything, to me her beautiful breasts just add more beauty to an already beautiful game. Strangely enough, her beautiful breasts happen to match her amazing personality. Win, win....
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snipes101  +   1281d ago
People are totally missing the damn point here. What he's annoyed about is not the fact that she has big breasts. It's that, instead of focusing on the enormity of a new Bioshock title and discussing the plethora of preview info out there, people are talking about the damn boobs.

Really guys? Really? You talk like boobs aren't a big deal. Great, they aren't. You contradict yourselves, however, when you fail to realize that the discussion boards are lit up with threads about her tits. If you ask me, that is people making a big deal about boobs. Those people not being Ken Levine, but the gamers (who, here, are giving him shit for making a deal out of the boobs).

Long story short, this scenario is similar to people going to see Michelangelo's Statue of David and then focusing all their attention on size of the dude's the schlong. I.e. -> they are missing the bigger picture.
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ItsMeAgain  +   1280d ago
I was gonna say the same that you just did. This just proves that people don't even read the articles and just go ahead and make bold statements just to get votes on "Agree". I would be disappointed too. Why? Because I would like the whole game that I am developing to be discussed, not just one character that is part of it who has very sexy and nice boobs...
ninjahunter  +   1280d ago
Boob problem? Thats like saying being too awesome is a problem.
Undeadwolfy  +   1280d ago
Well thats a breast of fresh air...
Resistance_lord  +   1281d ago
I Am not "disappointed" :P
EditorAtGNG  +   1281d ago
Sex sells. There are millions of reasons why this should not be the case in games but, yeah... unfortunately, it is.
theonlylolking  +   1281d ago
Well boobs aint sexual parts of the body. They are used for keeping a baby or young child healthy with good nutrients from the milk. In the USA boobs have become so sexualized that many women are to ashamed to breast feed their own baby!
DragonKnight  +   1281d ago
I'm sorry but you're wrong. Breasts are a point of sexual arousal on the female body and contribute to the pleasure they feel in their entire body during intimacy. It's not true for all women, but it is for most when handled properly. I've even heard that a woman can climax with just having her breasts being the focus of all intimate action. It's true that their primary function is to breast feed, but it's not true that they aren't a sexual part of the body.
MariaHelFutura  +   1281d ago
Actually, a lot of the world if you walked in on a women naked, they would cover their belly button. Plus, womens necks are also a point of arousal and it's not considered a sexual part. Touching in general really.
Hyperbomb69  +   1281d ago
Dragonknight knows his titties.
dont mess with this man.
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Human Analog  +   1281d ago
@ theonlylolking.....
Mens genitalia are used more for urinating than sexual intercourse. But they too are a sexual organ. So your devils advocated argument is stupid. EVERYBODY knows that breasts are arousing.
ziggurcat  +   1281d ago
"Well boobs aint sexual parts of the body."

*snort* you know, you might as well just come out and say you've never kissed a girl already... i mean... no offense, but that was one of the most naive statements i've ever read.
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sikbeta  +   1280d ago
The complete woman figure is sexualized, not just the breast... and I'm OK with that :D
Pozzle  +   1281d ago
Does it though? The original two Bioshock games had no sex appeal at all. They were just really, really good games...and that's what made them sell. Their quality, not their sex appeal.

I think it's silly to say a Bioshock needs to rely on sex to sell. People aren't buying the game to stare at Elizabeth's boobs. They're buying it because it looks like a great game.
gamingdroid  +   1281d ago
No, but the more attractive looking models make it more appealing. I personally prefer more appealing.
soundslike  +   1281d ago
saving face much?

honestly, hes naive to expect any different. And hes probably not naive, so I'm guessing hes trying to appear noble to the wifey

"yea like I totally care about your character development baby."
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DarkBlade4658  +   1281d ago
Was I the only one who had a rough time reading that article?

It's hard to connect with the character in any other way at the moment since all we really have are screenshots and videos. I'm sure once the game is out, people will be connecting with her the way Ken intended.
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gillri  +   1281d ago
I didn't see the title of this article

I see boobs, I click
Matrix2k  +   1281d ago
he should of added 2 more
badz149  +   1281d ago
you mean
like 3some?
Gambit07  +   1281d ago
is boobshocked.
RaidensRising  +   1281d ago
I see the point he is making, the focus on bewbs detracting from the game must hurt, but he shouldn't be so naive and have confidence that the rest of the game will be good enough to give it more depth than the initial sexual titillation.

From what I've seen thus far, the bewbs might be on show, as indicative of the period the game is trying to mimic in its sci-fi way, but the gameplay is still looking quality and interesting enough.

Perhaps he's drawing more attention to them by making these remarks, perhaps its part of a carefully orchestrated piece of marketing.
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BenderDGreat82  +   1281d ago
If it were any other game series that needed to cheapen its character's sexuality to hide the game's mediocrity, I don't think it'd be a problem...but it's Bioshock...arguably one of the best gaming series in the past years. Don't get me wrong...sexuality in video games, when done right, adds a sense of maturity and story development. But boobs just for the sake of boobs...grow up.
D3mons0ul  +   1281d ago
Boobs for the sake of boobs? A character who happens to have large tits isn't just a case of boobs for the sake of boobs, it's a design decision.

Boobs for the sake of boobs would be if they were constantly panning the camera to them, going out of their way within the game to point them out. That would be boobs for the sake of boobs.
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Kakihara  +   1281d ago
I love the atmosphere of this game and Elizabeth so far seems like a great character. I'm dying to know just what that giant robotic eagle wants with her and why she considers going back a fate worse than death. I also would very much like to motorboat those boobies for hours at a time.

I can understand frustration at the focus on boobs instead of other elements of the game but you can't really expect straight males to pretend they don't notice a fine pair of boobs at all. It irritates me that these days finding a woman physically attractive is considered the behaviour of only the dumbest most immature losers. I don't care if you're Einstein, Hawking or Tesla, if you see boobs like that you have to notice them. Maybe you don't spend so much time focusing on them that you miss the many other elements of this great looking game but they at least deserve a mention.
clearelite  +   1281d ago
Yes, to me the boobs are just another reason to fall in love with a great character.

Straight men like boobs = fact, get over it.

My imagination was also captivated by the idea of that being a fate worse than death, however, the whole video I downloaded was laden with surreal, trippy, outlandish ideas that seem to be the next step up conceptually and artistically and are way ahead of their time(generally speaking).
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les_snc91  +   1281d ago
Keep the breasts comin' :)
nchizimbi  +   1281d ago
In the previous generation (PS2-Xbox-GameCube era), I bought games anyhow on launch day or shortly after... some great, others not.

In this generation, I've been very picky on what games to buy... in the collection, there's not one that am disappointed in. My buy has been based on media (trailers, ViDocs), interest in the franchise & most importantly, reviews. But my buying of the games has been $40 & below (I wait a few months for the prices to drop)... it's only a few titles I've bought at $60 shortly after launch day. I game on both the PS3, X360 & PC... to enrich my collection on both platforms, it's why I wait a few months to buy two games for the prices of one.

I have BioShock on the X360, which I bought at less than $30 on Amazon. But BioShock 3 (Infinite) looks to be a huge release/great game; besides, it's being lead by The Man (Levine)... at $60, I can cough up that amount for the game soon after launch.

A game must be SPECIAL to pay $60 for.
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Pyscho_Mantis  +   1281d ago
Hmmm interesting question....games focus on very aesthetic values....would you still save her if she had the same personality but looked ugly.
Trekster_Gamer  +   1281d ago
BOOBIES!!
FinaLXiii  +   1281d ago
In a first person game that may be a little distracting, i guess it wouldnt hurt to put them smaller.

What i really like about the character is the face - very pretty.
Enigma_2099  +   1281d ago
Don't you have a say in what goes into the game? If it bothers you that much, tell them to change it!
bobrea  +   1281d ago
I think her boobs look great.

And her personality...and stuff.
DeeZee  +   1281d ago
Ken is one of my favorite people in gaming, and her breast aren't that big. It's just what she's wearing, the dress is low cut and it pushes them up.
Acadius  +   1281d ago
He shouldn't be surprised by this since some kids are just gonna notice them. I didn't notice until this article. I am just anxious for this game and am amazed set pieces and what to expect.
CoLD FiRE  +   1280d ago
If you are a straight man and didn't notice them, then maybe you should explore your sexuality more!
koehler83  +   1281d ago
Consider your audience Ken.
2pacalypsenow  +   1281d ago
His wife must be an A cupper
iNFAMOUZ1  +   1281d ago
the waterless world is the most disapointing, WATER is what made bioshock!........
Dno  +   1281d ago
the only thing that saddens me is the fact that everytime you "gamers" see boobs you all bitch and complain. this is why NO ONE takes games and gamers serious. The fanbase are a bunch of bitching complaining tools and so are the people who write these posts.

Movies have good looking people with boobs ALL THE TIME. Its just was sells. Gaming will never go further with this much of an immature fanbase.

Girls have boobs and sometimes they are huge, and yes girls LOVE to dress up and show them off ..... get over it.
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D3mons0ul  +   1281d ago
Things didn't used to be like this. Something went seriously wrong this generation and I hate to say it but the only foreseeable solution is genocide.

Not just referring to annoyances within the video game community. Every community has been poisoned over the last 6-7 years.

Hate to say it but many people are unworthy, have dropped below any reasonable standard to warrant their lives continuation and refuse to improve themselves or open their eyes/minds. Oh and while they remain willfully ignorant...they are also insistent on multiplying and spreading their stupidity wherever possible.

Yeeeaaaaahhh....fuck planet Earth
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ziggurcat  +   1281d ago
gamers obsessed with talking about boobs? i'm *shocked* /s
GenoZStriker  +   1281d ago
Typical online warriors. Out of all the videos and screenshots I have seen from this game, not once have I said "WOW THOSE HUGE BOOBS." If this was the same case with that Resident Evil case where Capcom showed absolutely about the characters or the game and simply focused on the tits and ass, I would have understood the complain. But honestly, there has been way more shown from the this game, from gameplay, environment, to characters and their personality to make a enormous unnecessary fucking deal about the breasts.
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brettyd  +   1281d ago
I find it funny that people are attracted to boobs on video game characters, sound like some therapy is in order.
blackhammer  +   1281d ago
The curvature is most attractive. Real boobs, fake boobs, I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference when it comes to visual enjoyment.

p.s. lol
mrsatan  +   1281d ago
I find it comical that you can look at Playboy and get attracted. /S

Women in the media today are no better than game or anime characters with the amount of photoshop and cosmetic surgery around. Everything is fake these days, but that doesn't make things any less arousing. You obviously never would have survived when porn was hand-drawn because there wasn't photography.
brettyd  +   1281d ago
ill agree on the cosmetic surgery comment, i dont find fake woman to be attractive. Don't read Playboy.
Soldierone  +   1281d ago
I find it a bit ironic that exaggerating women like this is a huge deal, yet you don't see guys complaining about looking like Kratos or something similar....Do guys ever look like him? No.

If women didn't attempt to "look good" then people wouldn't portray them like this.
Dno  +   1281d ago
an awesome point. how come they can make a guy thats 6 feet tall handsome as hell has a 6 pack and 20 inch arms in every game and no one complains about that... but as soon as we see a good looking women gamers bitch and complain.

Its so stupid. Real men lose their hair and have a gut. not many people complaining about not portraying men in a real light. But as soon as we see boobs all hell break loose.

I mean mass effect 3 it happened and the devs even lowered the boob size.
That new Resident evil game people bitched and now this.

its immature and sad and its the reason why most outlets will never take gaming serious because its fanbase and its journalist are a joke.
CoLD FiRE  +   1280d ago
Are you saying Kratos is handsome? He's one ugly motherfucker.
aviator189  +   1281d ago
Well, he probably should have expected that sort of response when he and the team decided to put two huge melons on the main actress.
It's not generally easy to ignore.
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_LarZen_  +   1281d ago
All this proves is people have way to much spare time....
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