OXM UK: "Irrational Games boss Ken Levine has backed up Cliff Bleszinski's hair-raising assessment that "the triple-A game might be going away", arguing that $60 titles need to be "amazing" nowadays if they're to turn a profit."
You damn right man, you damn right
... too many mediocre games are getting released at full price, and non-surprisingly, they have a hard time selling, so they quickly get discounted. It's better to just be a little less greedy and release such games at a lower price, hopefully benefitting from many gamers who see the value-for-money in that and buying it. The same goes for alot of games on PSN/XBLA as well. Too many are released for 15 dollars, while not worth it.
there are also a lot of 5 hour games that sell well because ppl are somehow brainwashed into paying 60 dollars for em. i can think of a few from this past year that not only were short, but were crap, and still broke a few million.
I thought I'd be buying 6+ games for Holiday 2011. I bought Skyrim for PC. That's it. My brother bought MW3, Skyrim, and Battlefield 3 for PS3 which we played on Thanksgiving Break when I was home--none of which I was really 'that' impressed with. I expected more of BF3, especially more of MW3, and Skyrim on PS3 is a bit of a disappointment--especially since Skyrim is a relatively CPU heavy game and because it uses the GPU for certain things instead of the CPU, you can tell it wasn't ported correctly. Skyrim needs work, CoD needs much, much more, and BF3 wasn't bad, but the campaign wasn't excellent. Maybe the PC version shows more promise.
@ Spydiggity Or people deem it interesting enough to buy. Not everybody enjoys playing games that take forever to finish. To them, a 5-10 hour game is more than adequate.
That's exactly what I was going to say :D
I have no interest in PSV but when i saw $50 for some games my jaw hit the floor. And yes the price to entertainment value is out of whack this gen.
Yeah the real problem is wack games cost the same as really hot games so then it just comes down to the consumer being smarter with what they buy.. A Game like Bioshock Infinite -No doubt in my mind that game will be worth the money.. They are pushing the envelope to new levels and making games you will love playing... So these days go hard or go home... These developers really have to make epic games if you want the sales numbers to follow.. .____........___...____ .____||......||.......____|| ||.........___||.......____||
Couldn't agree more with Levine. Sadly, there are lots of games that fail to do this. They're just in to make a quick $59.99 bucks every single year.
...or at the very least, it needs to work out of the box, not be stuffed full of content I can't access without forking out extra, and not be the same game I played last year.
And not be a game that's filled with content but takes you forever to finish because it runs at 10 fps.
charge 60, make sure your costs are lower. Bingo
Anything Ken Levine delivers, I'll gladly pay $60 on launch day :)
Indeed, Ken Levine and the people at Irrational Games are definitely very talented people
Agreed - BioShock is the perfect example I would say. That game just has a special place in my h...hh....HARD DRIVE!
I agree. I am seeing less and less games that are actually worth the full price. This is exactly why each year, I keep buying less games and just end up renting. I think I only bought 5 games this year, which is easily a record for me. I used to buy multiple games a month. I am not a huge fan of sports games being $60. A lot of times they change little to nothing and are putting out nearly the same games.
In the previous generation (PS2-Xbox-GameCube era), I bought games anyhow on launch day or shortly after... some great, others not. In this generation, I've been very picky on what games to buy... in the collection, there's not one that am disappointed in. My buy has been based on media (trailers, ViDocs), interest in the franchise & most importantly, reviews. But my buying of the games has been $40 & below (I wait a few months for the prices to drop)... it's only a few titles I've bought at $60 shortly after launch day. I game on both the PS3, X360 & PC... to enrich my collection on both platforms, it's why I wait a few months to buy games for the prices of one. I have BioShock on the X360, which I bought at less than $30 on Amazon. But BioShock 3 (Infinite) looks to be a huge release/great game; besides, it's being lead by The Man (Levine)... at $60, I can cough up that amount for the game soon after launch. A game must be SPECIAL to pay $60 for.
Its usually a mistake to pay for a game on release, when just a couple months later its price will fall.
Yep. Amazon usually drops the price at least $10 if not $20 within the first month. I don't know if there will be any more day 1 purchases for me anymore.
I don't know if I'd say it has to be particularly "special," but at least give it enough fresh content to be worth that money.
sad truth about the console market.
To me if your going to make single player game only, tops ill pay is 36.99. Unless its awesome to me ala dark souls, demons souls, god of war 3, BF3. These are the titles ive only payed 60 dollars for. Oh Mass Effect 2, KZ3, and GT5, Far cry on the 360 & Gears. I would of also payed 60 for Vanquished, thats a beast of a game for those that havent plyed it. But for the cry babies out there its less than 6 hours.
He's right in my case, there are only usually a handful of titles each year that I'll pay full price for. The rest I just don't feel are worth it so I add the one I want to my bargain bin list and wait till the price is right.
I still play Bioshock after all these years so yeah, it's $60 price was justified and I got my monies worth. Other games like Gears3, MW3 & even Uncharted 3 which all now have passes are turning a $60 game into a $100 game and honestly it's ridiculous.
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