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Submitted by TrendyGamers 1090d ago | opinion piece

To Everyone Worried About The Playstation Vita: Don’t Be

After the second week of sales for the Vita in Japan were released, people started to worry. Having sold just 72,479 units, the Vita was beaten out by the 3DS, PS3, Wii and PSP. This caused various publications to say that the Vita won’t launch in North America and others were talking about a price cut from $249 to $199 for the NA launch. Yes, the Vita didn’t exactly get off to a great start sales-wise in Japan but that doesn’t mean this will happen in the rest of the world. (Industry, PS Vita, Sony Computer Entertainment)

ssb3173  +   1090d ago
Well if you think about it, the PS Vita hasn't been released in the rest of the world yet, so it's too soon to make any assumptions. Not only that, but it has only been two weeks since release, and that isn't nearly enough time to judge if it will fail or not. The Vita will most likely do better outside of Japan but considering that the holiday season has gone, it can be argured if people are willing to pay that much money for one. Software sales wise, as it says in the article, digital downloads are not counted for and so nothing can be based on that. There might be more digital downloads due to the lower price of them, but considering that no one has any info on them, it shoulldn't be judged so early into its life.

Having imported one myself, I can say that it is really amazing, and Uncharted is an amazing game. Also having its main competitior, the 3DS, I can say that both consoles will do well because that are different to eachother. I would advise people to buy the Vita once released, it is actually really good.
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TrendyGamers  +   1090d ago
I'm definitely very jealous of the fact that you have a PS Vita. February 15th cannot come soon enough, I really want to play Uncharted.
miyamoto  +   1090d ago
Here is how PS Vita will sell great...
This year Disney & Sony should come up with a Pink Hannah Montana PS Vita bundle with 4GB memory card & sell it....wait a few months and see it ain't selling ... discount it heavily $50 off..... see it sell like crazy online ... and wala! inventory clean & everybody is happy!
LOGICWINS  +   1090d ago
"To Everyone Worried About The Playstation Vita: Don’t Be"

The only people who need to be "worried" about Vita are Sony and people who have stock in Sony.
ShabbaRanks  +   1090d ago
? *reads comment twice* *reads again* *reads one more time* ?

WHAT THE FUCK ARE U TALKING ABOUT ?!!???
BattleTorn  +   1090d ago
lol ^ this. (in agreement)

A portable is a hard sell in these days, where nearly everyone already has a smartphone or tablet capable of playing great games.
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Parapraxis  +   1090d ago
I don't have a tablet or smartphone, care to point me to these "great games" you say everybody is playing BattleTorn.
LOGICWINS  +   1090d ago
@Battletorn and Parapraxis- A dedicated portable is a hard sell these days because smartphone games offer a tremendous value regardless of whether they are great or not. Angry Birds and Angry Birds Rio are FREE on the Android Market...so are hundreds of other games and applications.

People like the idea that they can pay ONE price in the beginning and download hundreds of apps for free. None of them are likely up to the quality of visuals and storytelling of say Uncharted: Golden Abyss...but when you have have free access to hundreds of fun games...who the hell cares?

Anyone who believes that smartphone games don't have an effect on dedicated portable gaming consoles is a jackass...period.

If a smartphone owner is used to paying $0 to $3 for games, it's going to be HARD to convince this person to buy ANOTHER device for which they have to buy $10-$50 games for.
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TBM  +   1090d ago
@logic

i have a smartphone and to me its pretty damn worthless for the type of gamer i am, so ill be purchasing a vita when it releases because it has the types of games that i want to play on the go. if i can spend $300 for my smartphone or $400-600 for a tablet i think i can spend $250 for a dedicated handheld to suit my needs.

for me personally i will never believe that gaming on a smartphone/tablet is just as good as a dedicated handheld.

my phone is good for only a few things

browsing web when im bored
texting, calling
email

the vita will service my need for quality games on a portable device. majority of the people i see using phones/tables to try and game look retarded to me with the finger swiping and finger poking lol. these are just my opinions.
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radphil  +   1090d ago
"Anyone who believes that smartphone games don't have an effect on dedicated portable gaming consoles is a jackass...period.

If a smartphone owner is used to paying $0 to $3 for games, it's going to be HARD to convince this person to buy ANOTHER device for which they have to buy $10-$50 games for."

You act like dedicated portable devices just showed up overnight....
And they're hard to sell? We cleared out of PSPs, DSs, 3DSs over the holiday times, and was back up to 20+ for the most part.

And the fact that you compared the same time of flash-style/Unity based games to studio developed games, and expect them to be at the same quality and price, is really questionable on your part.

One example. Infinity Blade. Made by Epic and is good quality. The other thing? It's $6. Higher than the "0-3" you state, and at a higher quality.

Aside from that, touchscreen gaming can only go BUT SO FAR with control limitations.
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Qdog  +   1090d ago
@ radphil

The following is my opinion and as such only applies to how I feel....

As an owner of a tablet, a smartphone, and a PS Vita(import), I have to completely agree with the limitations of touch-screen only gaming...it's just not there. There is no replacement for dedicated tactile controls in the response and coordination department. I've played many high priced games on my Acer Iconia A500 and none of them hold even a candle to the overall quality offered by Uncharted: Golden Abyss, seriously to me there is no comparison. In fact when I play these games on my tablet, I think of how much better they could be on the Vita. The platform is powerful, cohesive, and has a list of dedicated features that make it way better than my tablet could ever be for gaming. I think there is a place for dedicated gaming portables as well as tablets/ smartphones, and until tablets start using a super high refresh rate screen with bumpy overlays to emulate buttons, they wont come close to the gratification that the Vita and 3DS offer to gamers.
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tiffac008  +   1090d ago
@logic
I don't think the PSV is geared towards the casual market, just by reading the statement from Sony's SCEE CEO Jim Ryan, they seem to know their market will be the core audience with the PS Vita and plans to move into the younger audience in about 2yrs.

So this talk of the smartphone buyer buying a PS Vita is a moot discussion because even Sony admits that it ain't the market for the PSV at this time.

Even Pachter freaking agrees. Only detractors of the PS Vita always seems to be the one to put this point out all the time.

http://n4g.com/news/906999/...

So you guys may actually be expecting more from the PSV than Sony is, in terms of sales and target market.

Edit: Replied to the wrong comment, sorry it was meant for the one below this post. ^^;
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damnyouretall  +   1090d ago
cmon man japan has been through some shit. wait till it hits the states, it will be very popular
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LOGICWINS  +   1090d ago
Just curious. Why do you believe that a $250/$300 dedicated portable gaming device that isn't a phone and doesn't have the name Apple on it will be so popular?

"cmon man japan has been through some shit."

Yet the release of Monster Hunter helped the 3DS smash sales records in Japan three weeks ago.

http://www.computerandvideo...

Why did this "shit" only affect Vita sales and not 3DS sales? Theres clearly another factor that we aren't considering.

@Schobeleth- I don't think you realize the point. Most people are happy with paying $0 for fun portable games as opposed to $50 for a great portable game. It's more about value than anything else.

It's funny how you downplay games because they are "bite sized"...yet Pokemon Black/White have sold more copies than 3D PSP counterparts such as Peace Walker and God of War: Ghost of Sparta. The way YOU view games is clearly different from the way the majority of portable games view games.
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JellyJelly  +   1090d ago
The US (or the rest of the world) isn't exactly doing awesome financially either.

I think most people will feel the Vita is a superflous gadget if you already have a console or gaming PC in your home. That's how I feel about it. If I want some casual fun while on the bus or the train smartphone games are more than enough to make the ride enjoyable. And as Logic stated, most of the smartphone games are free or very cheap.
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SoapShoes  +   1090d ago
I've been reading about this and I say, how is it failing? It did 400k in 9 days with limited supply(compared to 466k the 3DS did the WHOLE month of November)... They only shipped 500k throughout the whole country of Japan. With only 100k left it's probably spread out very thin and is reported that the wifi version is completely sold out, only leaving the less popular 3G model that the Japanese don't care for. What is with the media and being so quick to jump on the Vita? They've painted a negative picture on it for no reason when it isn't even true. 70k+ is more than all individual systems do in Japan on a normal weekly basis anyway and there's no word on when more will be shipped.

On the topic of games, I think the Vita's launch games are more geared towards the west anyway, especially in February when there will be more launch titles. It's only a matter of time before some mega Japanese game comes out for the Vita and you know there will be a Monster Hunter for it. But it has also been reported that "One thing that did sell out was Vita memory cards. The bigger ones, the 16 and 32GB cards, are completely sold out, according to reports. Despite the high pricing, 90 percent of Vita purchasers also bought a memory card. " . This explains why Vita games weren't in the top 10. Does the media really expect Japanese gamers to buy huge memory cards and not use them to buy cheaper priced digital copies of games?

As for the 3DS's massive numbers this week... Have you seen the games that have come out for it recently? They've put out all of their big guns for the end of the year. Mario Kart, Monster Hunter, etc. All big games in Japan! You know what happens in Japan when a big game comes out for a system? The system surges to astronomical numbers and then usually goes back down to normal. It has happened with the PS3/PSP several times with games such as Yakuza 3/4, Resident Evil 5, Final Fantasy XIII, Monster Hunter 3G, etc. I think this just proves that despite all of these gimmicks Nintendo and Sony have used, it's ALL about the games. The reason the 3DS didn't come out swinging was because it simply lacked the software that the Japanese people wanted and now a bunch have just come out.

I see no reason for these doom and gloom articles. :???: I felt the same way when everyone was saying the 3DS failed because it wasn't doing astronomical numbers. Both the PSP and DS did better in the long run than what their launches would have suggested and the PSP was the #1 system in Japan for 2010.
damnyouretall  +   1090d ago
logic i noticed youre always a ass in the comment section. wasnt the 3ds released before their tsunami. im glad alot of people were able to buy monster hunter, good for them. but the vita will do better in the u.s.a. around launch, bet. i know the US isnt doing so good, you think im stupid or live in a cave? but we still buy usless shit and it helps stimilate the economy some what so who cares.
Schobeleth  +   1090d ago
@ Battletorn, please describe these "great games"? Most are bite sized, casual fare because of the very nature of the touch controls. The same thing happens with any motion based or touch based hardware.

The PS Vita has dual analog sticks, this is what will make it stand out in the long run when it builds up a stellar library of both old (ports and digital downloads) and new games.

It's already evident with their robust launch lineup. I couldn't be more excited because I'll finally have a handheld with dual analog sticks and the online community features I've always wanted on Playstation (cross game chat, finally!!!).

Sure, the touch controls are there for people wanting a bite sized gaming experience but there are games that support dedicated controls and also the optional touch controls. Key word - optional. I'll be happy getting superior control with my dual analog sticks and face buttons.

All the casual people who play Infinity Blade or whatever once every two weeks on their iphones can enjoy that, I just want a deeper gaming experience that smart phones and tablets can't deliver.
Colwyn  +   1090d ago
the ps vita will eclipse the success of the psp in the amount of units sold in my opinion. the ps vita is an amazing handheld and i believe it will even sell more than the 3ds or come close to its sales. the reasoning for my opinion is because the ps vita will have a lot more software support especially the software that is suppose to launch in 2012 in the us and europe and it is able to support 3ds games while having more features. shy of having 3d capability like the 3ds, the vita is better than the 3ds in everyway and even though it doesnt have nintendos heavy hitters when it comes to software, it will have a lot of heavy hitters in greater quantity.

think about nintendo having super mario, zelda, donkey kong, kirby, pokemon, kid icarus,ssb, metroid, animal crossing, luigis mansion, star fox and a few others. while thats an amazing line up of games, its a short list of games when compared to a list of sony top heavy hitters like uncharted, killzone, resistance, gran turismo, god of war, heavenly sword,heavy rain, little big planet, socom, yakuza, ratchet and clank, gta, call of duty, red dead redemption, ico, shadow of the collosus, mod nation racers, skyrim, and a lot more games. my point is that the potential is greater for sonys ps vita to be successful because their handheld can support current hd console highest and best sellers while the nintendo 3ds will have to settle for less because it doesnt have the capabilities to support as much as the ps vita. it would be good if sony releases two version of most of their big titles for both ps3 and psv at a discounted price to entice consumers and also port a lot of previously released titles on the ps3 for the ps vita. id gladly buy red dead redemption, oblivion, skyrim, san andreas, ssf4, gran turismo 5, fallout, la noire, battlefield 2,3, assasins creed, and a lot others if they are on ps vita. ps2 heavy hitters will also be amazing
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TrendyGamers  +   1090d ago
If the PS Vita does surpass the PSP, it will take quite a few years and a lot of good exclusives but it is definitely possible.
tubers  +   1090d ago
The only problem with that is that most of the titles you've shown for the VITA are "IFs". Just "what ifs" at the moment.

W/o complete assurance the VITA can be unappealing since it's just a device that's full of "ifs" and "promises" (best hardware in class).

Needs more software and more assurance from devs to negate pricing.

I am far from worried with the VITA.

There's so much that could happen in its life cycle.
TrendyGamers  +   1090d ago
And I doubt that Skyrim would be able to run on the Vita.
Matrix2k  +   1090d ago
Dude most people arent going to re buy ports

Ports dont sell systems exclusives do. That fact has never been broken ever in the industry
DaPrintz  +   1090d ago
If Modern Warfare 3 hits this device, we will test that statement.
Stealth2k  +   1090d ago
@daprintz

that statement will not be tested. There have been call of duties on the portables and they dont move systems

Anyone who wants MW3 will get it on the pc, or a console.

Splitting sales amongst 5+ systems is not a system seller
one2thr  +   1090d ago
I'm not a COD fan by any means but what "DaPrintz" has said is kinda true, if MW3 was to be released on the vita it'll probably sell like hotcakes with the masses, and to think that it won't just because of those piss poor tap and shoot COD or any 5minute 5mb fps download is stupid..... I can see MW3 being ported over to it the vita with ease, seeing that there was a live tech demo showing the vita running an un-optimized version of MGS4 that only taken a week to port over to so yeah what "DaPrintz" has stated can actually become an interesting reality....... But then again who'd rebuy a terrible game, on the go?
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ronin4life  +   1090d ago
CoD probably won't sell on vita if it means its fans will have to stop playing CoD to buy it, unless it is standalone and different enough.
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SoapShoes  +   1090d ago
So Mario 64 DS, Ocarina of Time 3D, Street Fighter 4 3D, Metal Gear Solid 3D didn't sell DSs? Umm... Nintendo has always relied on ports with their handhelds. GBA was ports of Nes/Snes, DS was ports of 64, 3DS is more ports of 64.
pythonxz  +   1090d ago
@Estranged
Nintendo pretty much plays on nostalgia. If you truly think they don't, take a good hard look at their most successful games. If haven't noticed, they aren't much for new IPs...they just resurrect old ones.
With all things considered, I'm not saying that Sony is any better, especially when it comes to spin-offs...but then again, those usually aren't First Party games.
Matrix2k  +   1090d ago
For the record it didnt sell badly in japan. Outsold the psp and psx, and ps3 for 2 weeks
Mac is OK  +   1090d ago
But it was outsold by both PSP and PS3 in it's second week.
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ShabbaRanks  +   1090d ago
who gives a fuck about sales... Anyway you guys must of forgot that wicked tsunami that hit japan last year...
Mustang300C2012  +   1090d ago
ShabbaRanks,

So the excuse is the Tsanami that hit Japan last year but effected Sony but not Nintendo during the holidays? What are you trying to say?
ronin4life  +   1090d ago
You mean the launches, right? Because that is still a little iffy.
The ps2 launched in an era where games had yet to gain a major foothold and against the dreamcast(which was still doing ok in Japan at the time), and the ps3 was overpriced and the launch lineup was awful.
And while outselling the psp is more impressive, (if not just a sign of overall market growth) it(the vita) was crushed in its own full launch week by that very system.
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SoapShoes  +   1090d ago
You makin' shit up? PS2 was in an era where games had yet to gain a foothold? ROFL!!
radphil  +   1090d ago
The funny thing, is logically didn't the 3DS and Vita have around the same opening launch sales?

So why are some of the media outlets comparing numbers of an established base vs a new growing on?

It's like comparing the stats of a veteran experienced person to that of a newbie. Back then it was 3DS is doomed, etc, etc. Now it's Vita is doomed, etc etc.
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ronin4life  +   1090d ago
The 3ds's first full week was much better than the vitas, which saw a 70% or so drop from its first 2 days.
Furthermore, the 3ds's first 2 days were a bit better than the vitas and the 3ds had less stock available at launch than the vita.
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smashcrashbash  +   1090d ago
There is an article on N4G that shows all the PlayStation system went though the same high sales first week, lower sales second week process. So it seems that this is not a rare occurrence. Remember most of Sony's systems have gone on to sell tens and hundreds of millions of units all of them with the same 'it will probably fail' attitude behind it.

Also remember that Sony sold most of the units they shipped in the short time the VITA was in Japan and they haven't even shipped more of them. So the fact of the matter is not that the VITA CAN'T fail. It's just that it is way to early to be saying that.Remember how 'worried' people were about the PS1 and it sold 10 million units easy?

@ radphil and to make it worse the 3DS had a worse launch line up and less games. It wasn't until they got Mario and friends that sales surged. People are saying that the VITA's problem is they didn't have things like MH or Japanese games to attract Japanese customers at launch.But neither did the 3DS or have people forgotten already?
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TacoTaru  +   1090d ago
Sometimes I feel so Japanese. No good RPGs means no good reason to buy a system. None of the games scheduled for release have any appeal for me so if I wasn't a hardware junkie I would probably cancel my pre-order. I guess I'll just look at the Vita while waiting for Disgaea 3 to be released.
MasterCornholio  +   1090d ago
Im not worried at all. The Vita is a great handheld which will end up getting a fantastic library of games. Which is why I am buying one at launch.

Just try and stop me.

Lol

XperiaRay
Jirachi  +   1090d ago
vita is selling worse then 3ds did at launch and people call 3ds a failed system so either there both failed systems or neither are
ronin4life  +   1090d ago
This is what bothers me personally. The 3ds launch and period afterwards was much better than the vita is current status, but the n4g public perception couldn't be more different.
Time will ultimately tell, but if this isn't just a single week thing the vita will have a rough post launch period.
Edit
Yikes, that second sentence was a mess...
"The 3ds was doing much better launch and post launch than the vita is currently,"~
That looks better...
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TheDivine  +   1090d ago
I think it will be off to a slow start until more games get released and it gets priced at 200 or under. Its a badass handheld but 250 is high enough where only the hardcore fans will buy it and the only big game for it is uncharted which isnt quite a system seller except to big ps fans. Once ff, mgs, gow, and cod drop sales will skyrocket like the 3ds. It def wont flop or die off but it wont be a hit until it gains steam. I cant wait to get it once the mgs collection drops so i can have mgs1, 2, 3, portable ops, peace walker, acid, acid 2, and the digital novel all on one device. That is going to be so f***ing awesome.
smashcrashbash  +   1090d ago
@ Parapraxis. People believe that everyone in the world thinks like them. That is why everyone with a phone INSISTS that phones have great games. I for instance get bored of these so called 'great' games in about ten minutes at the most. If these game are so 'great' why is it most people I see playing them barely even play them for 30 minutes?

I can play Batman AC, GOW3, UC3, R4, Rayman Origins for hours without break. But phone games put me to sleep after about 10-20 minutes. I am getting a little sick and tired of the phone fanboys going on about how great phone games are and how hard a sell a handheld is. I don't see what is so great about buying some shallow flash game crap or some touch only game with no controller. What is the point buying cheap crap because its cheap? The only people who I see trying to push phones and tablets for gaming are the companies trying to convince everyone and the phone and tablet users who seem to be trying to justify their expensive purchase.

You spend 2-3 times the price of a VITA so you can buy three dollar games that aren't even in the same league as a handheld and run around trying to convince true gamers that it as just as good as them when you know damn well that it wouldn't even sell if it was anywhere close to the price of a handheld game.At least at the price they are at 3DS and VITA games are still selling. If any of the 'great games' you mentioned were priced the same as the handheld games I'll bet people wouldn't think they were so 'great' I could play clones of many phone games for free on the internet but I can't play clones of UC:GA, Gravity Daze or Dragon's Crown can I?
Neko_Mega  +   1090d ago
Wow, look at LOGICWINS go. No live I'm guessing or is hoping that his cell phone will start being as cool as the new handheld gaming systems.

I don't think cell phone games effect the gaming world as much as everyone thinks it does, because if it did. Wouldn't Nintendo and Sony be worry??
tarbis  +   1090d ago
If it did, both Sony and Ninty would have jumped to mobile gaming instead.
ronin4life  +   1090d ago
Aw, crap. Stupid tablet touch screen.
I didn't mean to hit "disagree". My bad.
@estranged
Not a major one. It was that very era that saw an incredible growth in the industry.
The gaming world was quite large, but not big enough or mainstream enough to expect massive day one sales of a new device. The vita has all of PlayStation history as a backing for massive sales, so of course it should sell better than its predecessors. But in this day and age of gaming and its larger market size, it really should have done better than it has if it were as big an item at launch as it has been proclaimed to be.

Also, about your ports comment
There is a big difference in ports of games 10~17 years old and 0~3 years old.
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Sugreev2001  +   1090d ago
It's too soon to make assumptions.
LeBronista  +   1090d ago
I'm not worried with the Vita, I'm worried about those people saying that Sony and potential Vita buyers should be worried because it is (Vita) DOOMED. I think they've gone mentally ill or something.
tarbis  +   1090d ago
Hits are hard to come by nowadays that's why they make these doom and gloom articles. Funny, I only see these type of articles towards japanese consoles.
tiffac008  +   1090d ago
No I'm not worried after reading the statement by SCEE CEO Jim Ryan, it sounds like they only expect the PSV to sell towards the core market which is of course on its own ain't a lot, if you compare it to the casual market.

http://n4g.com/news/906999/...

So in my point of view Sony knows their sales target and has a proper sales expectation of things, which is a good step in moving forward.
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