Could Halo 4 see a multi format released where two versions are released for Xbox and Xbox next?
Yes it can. Microsoft already stated back in 2008 that Their next gen console will be ‘Forward Compatibility’. It’s the idea that games will not only “run”, they will also be “enhanced”, thanks to the new hardware capabilities. Graphics, for example, could be enhanced. There are programmatic ways to improve textures, resolution or frame-rate on old games, but usually improving the user-interface, the network capability or even the game-play is much harder. There has been alot of talks about it in 2008, I can not believe someone has forgot about it. One source http://www.ubergizmo.com/20... Pluss Peter Moore has already stated back in 2007 that the team behind xbox 360 has started working on the next xbox ''Microsoft will support Xbox 360 as long as it sold, and the console is still selling well despite of six years to its development in 2005. The production team from the Xbox 360 is working on the next Xbox game console, and they are looking into what kind of CPUs will be available in the market next year, in 2012.'' http://www.computerandvideo... The man worked at Microsoft when he stated those things, I for one believe him. And only time will tell.
LOL i love that you are getting trolled with disagrees simply for not completely bashing MS (in fact, every comment down the line, so far, is). you're using quotes directly from the dev teams and people still disagree. such a joke. well, good comment. i think it would be VERY impressive if someone managed to release a new console that was not only backwards compatible, but also improved the look of old games. it would be the first system that was able to do this. whatever halo 4 comes out on, i'm gettin it.
LOL Yeah, I saw the disagrees but I dont care about it. This has been known for many years, I Guess there is lots of misinformed kids on this site :D It will be very good if they can pull that off. There is lots of sources about the MS Forward Compatibility from MS them self. And they have stated that back in 08 or maybe 07. Just google it and you can read very interesting facts. And about the new console, Peter Moore have said it many times, People just don't remember :D
@X_GAMER_X props to you for actually doing some homework on your comment. Yes MS has long stated they wanted forward compatibility... that was more of a point they made more recently with Kinect, that it would be forward compatible. I could easily see a high res pack XBOX "whatever name" for the next console with Halo 4. It could merely be a downloadable even... So one Halo 4 disc but access to the more robust stuff if you have the new console. It really is all speculation at this point though because this all will hinge on the timing of MS's next console release.
Why would it release on "Xbox"? They stopped supporting it like 6 years ago.
Um, PS3 improved look of old games. The PS2 improved the looks of PS1 games. So, no, it wouldn't be the first system to do so.
@trikster40 Easy tiger, you should know the Playstation brand is irrelevant when it comes to features round here. But otherwise you are correct.
This website is a joke... full of ps3 fanboys that can't take relax for a second to just read the news instead of trolling all xbox games.... we're all gamers here, no need to be douchebags to each other...
@da_2pacalypse Oh look it's that "full of PS3 fanboys" line again. If that was so wouldn't you find this site full of XBOX hate articles? If fact I would say it's quite the opposite. Yes we are all gamers here and there is no harm in correcting a comment if it's believed to be incorrect.
I remember the forward comparable articles. They are interesting but honestly I don't think new hardware can magically make an old game look better.
Disscordia Check skyward sword on pc. Check ps1 and ps2 emulators on pc In fact my laptop plays all my old ps games better than my ps2 does. (i did not pirate disclaimer)
1 Agree, 25 Disagree Obviously a bunch of retards who can't read: "released for Xbox and Xbox next" So again, why would Halo 4 release on Xbox? They stopped supporting it ~6 years ago. This site and/or contributor screwed up their wording was my point. They refer to Xbox as the current console, they refer to Xbox as the original console, they refer to Xbox 360, new Xbox, Xbox next, current Xbox, etc. They're inconsistent with their naming of the consoles. Why refer to each console by 2-3 different names? Poorly written, and they should make up a name for the next Xbox. They call it Xbox next and don't capitalize Next, so then it's not a name. They should've said Xbox, 360 (or Xbox 360), and NextBox or something. Not Xbox when referring to the current console, then Xbox again when referring to the original console, then Xbox next without capitalization of Next when referring to a new console.
@Flatbattery yes, and that's exactly what we have... a bunch of articles that bash one of the consoles and all the ps3 fanboys going crazy... everybody calm down -_-
@jrbeerman11 All emulators do is add some filters and upscale (which sometimes ends up looking worse).
Those things were stated, that is a fact. But Microsoft also made the same remarks about Xbox 1 being supported. Microsoft is a master at marketing. It would be disastrous for them to market HALO 4 toward the 360 audience, get you to preorder and pay for HALO 4 on the 360 and then turn around and tell you, "Ha. You just bought the last gen version." That isn't marketing, it's customer betrayal. Frankie O'Connor has already stated that HALO 4 is an Xbox 360 title. http://www.neogaf.com/forum... Most people would just buy the game on the 360 and the ability for the game to drive next gen console sales would be squandered. If you think about it, ms xbox world thinks Microsoft are idiots because this is what they would need to be in order to take such a route. Spread the word, ms xbox world is an anti-Microsoft site. Now people are trying to read into what O'Connor and 343 have said or rather didn't say. My preorder is on HALO 4 for the 360 for a reason. That is the console for which it is designed. "Well he didn't exclude other platforms." Is this the demented logic to which pretend journalists have sunk? Can they no longer make logical deductions? Oh wait, I forgot who published the article. It's usually indicative of the level of literary idiocy when I see a phrase along the lines of "Now before you..." Before we what? Use common sense? Never mind that 2014 fits the frame that people who would actually know have indicated. Mark Rein and Tim Sweeney both have stated that we would not see Unreal 4 until 2014. And they have both stated that Unreal 4 will be a launch engine on next gen consoles. HALO 5 arriving in 2014 as a launch title on the 720p is the only bit of common sense which this article came close to touching, and even that they dismissed in order to attempt and drive the ridiculous notion that the 720p is coming when they want. Dream on. BTW ms xbox world, your excellent Miss Cleo record as purveyors of whopper sized outright lies does nothing for your reputation as an accurate predictor of the gaming future nor your pitiful downtrodden attempts at journalism.
Am just sayning it can come out, Not it will come out :D If we can go by MS word about Forward Compatibility. There has been a Total blackout, No info about Halo 4 what so ever. What If in E3 They announce a new console and a forward support Halo 4? I Don't like to exclude anything so I don't look like an idiot when it really happend, That is why I allways say: Time will Tell. :D
@X_Gammer_X - All that forward compatible means is that the next console will be backwards compatible. Same way PS2 played PS1 games at a slightly better quality, but at the end of the day, it's the same. So I don't know why you're making such a big deal about "forward compatibility", because it's very likely that every current game on any console is "forward compatible."
Morgan I bubbled you up for the last paragraph. Couldn't have said it better myself. Oh well. Now to the article/turd in question. It amazes me just how much BS gets passed off as "opinion" these days. So I'm going to do something I wouldn't normally do and throw MSXboxWorld a bone. The most reasonable course of action for MS to take (provided their next system is BC) is to simply offer "next-gen" upgrades in the form of DLC. That way they could make Halo 4 for the 360 (as they'd use DX9 to do it) and sell an "upgrade" consisting of a texture pack with tessellation thrown in for their next console. It's sure to be packing DX11. That would allow a nice jump in eye candy and would let them (MS) charge twice for the one game. This isn't my "opinion". This isn't my prediction. It's just the most logical solution. Now, quick as you can. Run back and make an article about how DLC upgrades are "teh futurez of gamingz". That's right. I've got that much faith in your ability.
Morganfell, Twilight princess says hi Released two gens nintendo, did awesome.
jrbeerman, not reading and understanding the situations says hi. apples an oranges says hi. no one says it cant sell on two plats. but twilight princess didnt go on preorder for one plat an then wait until people paid for it so that it then went on sale for the next plat in the same line that hadnt been announced yet. you dont understand the situation. also no one tried to make the second version of tp one of the main launch titles for a new console. no new console was relying on tp as one of the main forces behind sales for a brand new console. see you really dont understand the situation. comprehension, which is a stranger to you, says hi.
Diver Tell me how you really feel. I can read fine, Im not making the assumption that the new xbox is coming on time for Halo 4. Also rereleasing later upscaled versions of games to new platforms has been done plenty so relax. I also understand the situation because i know this article is bull and your operating on some bait articles speculation. I also know that if it were true and xbox did pull the crap of announcing a better version of same game after offering preorders, that they would still sell tons. I apologize if i offended, i only slipped in one quick thing that didnt represent the whole but only added to argument. Though most people grip on to 1 fact for an entire argument and thinks it proves everything so ill give you that. Just dont be so quick to call someone an idiot.
That would be amazing :D And disagreeing with not only facts but evidence. X_GAMER_X has quoted and even given links to what he is saying.
Dont worry about those people. Bubble up bro. @ Gaffyh Forward compatible is not the same as backward. You can read more about it if you do some research, And where Do I make a big deal about it? The article says: Could Halo be release on two Xbox consoles? Am quoting What Microsoft have said before based on their own words. It is just a speculation :D
@X_Gamer_X - I don't think you understand what I'm saying in my comment. I'll give you an example. Sony never said that PS1 games would be forward compatible. Then when PS2 came out, it was backwards compatible, meaning that PS1 games WERE forward compatible. AND the PS2 improved the quality of the games. It's the same thing, except it includes more improvements due to the nature of the current consoles e.g. possible DLC updates on the next console etc. That doesn't mean it's a new concept, it just means that they can do more with backwards compatibility due to the changes in the way we play games.
Gaffy Sony said ps3 was backwards compatible on release too. And we got 1 batch of overpriced fatties that could and then nothing. Wish they at least brought back for slims..... But then the hd releases would sell less. Both m$ and sony are guilty of shady crap like this, just different ends. So basically all fanboys have ammunition
seems like the fanboys don't approve your comment. lol
It seems you do, so there must be an exception to your statement.
Great info and post X_GAMER_X also MS has already given major Devs the PC specs for the next Box and games for it have been under development for a couple years now. I hope a "next box" is released for 2012 and i think it will be cause MS wants to have a kick butt E3 and launching Windows 8 and a Next Box would be Kick butt. Halo 4 on 360 and Next Box would be awesome. Would love to have a release on Steam too but maybe that's wishful thinking.
Thnx Bro :] I can not wait for next gen. Think about new console smell :D Bubble up for backing me up :D
People disagreeing on new systems?!? Yikes All good stuff x gamer x
That idea of forward compatibility would be amazing if they could do and would essentially make every 360 game a hd remake which would be awesome nostalgia. But I am taking it with a grain of salt since they promised backwards compatibility on 360 and everyone knows how that turned out, I they still wish they kept the servers up for major games like chaos theory and halo 2. Oh well, Halo 4 literally decides whether I get the next xbox or ps4, because Microsoft is all out of exclusives so much that they have to announce halo 4,5,6 at one conference. To clarify I own a 360 and want a PS3
@ThichQuangDuck I like alot of what you said, except about backwards compatibility on the 360 from the original xbox. Everyone one of my original xbox games played on the 360, except for Cell Damage. I read there were a few more niche games that werent bc, but idk it was happy with it at the time.
@hellvaguy I guess my main complaint about backwards compatibility that I forgot to clarify was other than just taking the servers down. The fact that you cannot be in party or communicate at all while playing said games. Many of the games I wanted to play also worked though but it limited overall functionality. Would have been nice to be able to still use the guide.
FOrwards compatibility will bring consoles into a PC realm wont it? Im sure they will limit the number of upgrades for example.. Eg Only 1 type of graphics card could be used a replacement. Forwards compatibility is a great idea but its pretty much a PC IMO
@r1sh12 Wow bro, 1 thing in common out of literally dozens to hundreds of examples to cherry pick from, and this one feature would magically transform all consoles into a PC.
i suppose its a good idea, but I already have a gaming pc.
nice name copycat, haha. Forward compatability, yes that's a given based on what MS has said in the past. There's also hints of past PC game playability being available as well, we'll see how that works out. Second gen. KINECT device will also be standard on the new XBOX. MS doesn't wait or look to see what processors are available, they have them developed and tested, multiple idea's are long tested before developed to see whith what and who they will go with on the CPU/GPU design. Many rumors on that as well. Halo 4 will be an Xbox 360 exclusive. The Next X, again based on rumors, were looking at an Xmas 2013 release. Definately NOT 2012. If not 2013, then spring 2014 again based on the internal flow. Regardless, it's going to be good times for all:) Release titles, that I'd love to see. Splinter Cell exclusive, A KOTOR exclusive and most definately A HALO exclusive and a New GEARs of WAR franchise exclusive. KOTOR is a big wish as the new MMO is coming but the first two on original Xbox was two of my all time fav's.
"It’s the idea that games will not only “run”, they will also be “enhanced”, thanks to the new hardware capabilities. Graphics, for example, could be enhanced. There are programmatic ways to improve textures, resolution or frame-rate on old games" If that's true, I hope Sony does it as well. Just imagine Killzone 2/3, Uncharted 2/3, etc. running at a crisp 1080p with 60fps.
A new Xbox could definitely be announced at E3, but it seems unlikely given the recent release of Kinect. For that reason, I don't expect Halo 4 to get a version specific to the next console. In my opinion, what would make more sense for the console would be to release a year or so after the Wii U. They'd get an opportunity to learn from the Wii U and be able to put out a more noticeably superior product with the advancements made in that extra time. Thus they increase the requirements for AAA titles and make it harder for the Wii U to secure comparable versions of multiplatform releases.
Thats the thing... Kinect camera has been from day one being touted as a forward compatible device. So even if you bought a Kinect this year and the new Xbox comes out next year you can still use that Kinect camera on the new box.
This would be great as everyone would be happy. Xbox 720 owners get an improved version and the 60 million Xbox 360 owners still get to play the game as well. If they can play together as well then that is just awesome progression.
i think they should also release them on pc like they did with the first two it would give some gamers a reason to windows live lol
how about the pc? that would be cool
PC would get to play the 360 version but will improved graphics of course and only through Windows 8. If you look back MS has a history of pushing the new OS with it's games. I think with Windows 8 they will get everything right.
Problem is HALO is an awful game for pc users. :D
No, this is a 360 game and its been in development for a few years now. No chance in hell this will be on the Nextbox, despite predictions that it'll be released next year.
Nintendo did it with twilight princess for gamecube and wii so I don't see whyn't.
because Twilight Princess was the same game, the only difference I know of was the implemenation of the Wii mote. Halo 4 will be a big game over Xbox Live and I doubt MS will enable cross platform play. Also, the Nextbox will probably be backwards compatible, so why go to the trouble of releasing Halo 4 when there would be no difference?
LOL I thought multiplatform as 3rd party title..
Same here man, I was like. WTF
wouldnt matter, halo is pretty much a dead franchise, each game selling less than the last and getting reviewed lower than the last. What was reach? low eighties?
Low 80's? Try 91 meta http://www.metacritic.com/g...
And still the lowest reviewed and selling halo game. nowhere to go but down Especially with a garbage developer at the helm
@Matrix2k Actually, after Reach, Halo has nowhere to go but up. Reach was terrible for a Halo game. It's an ok game, but that's it, it's just ok, not great. The campaign destroyed an insane amount of canon, and the multiplayer is far outclassed by any other Halo game's multiplayer. Bungie made Reach because they signed a contract with MS saying they would make 5 Halo games, not because they wanted to. 343 makes Halo because they love Halo. I fully expect this game to blow Reach out of the water in every way possible. I do not however expect it to hit the bar set by the first 3 games.
Yeah, that's why it's being revived as another trilogy. Obviously a dead franchise /s
If it's not a dead franchise, why does it need to be revived? :P
Hmmmm... maybe because trilogy typically means 3. ODST and Reach were based on the Halo Universe, but didn't have the main protagonist from the original trilogy. Halo 4 is going back to the original story arc and expanding on the main cast which is how it's considered a revival. Reach, ODST, and Halo Wars sold less since they aren't directly part of the series. They still sold pretty well for what they were. -Death
Yeah, because Halo Reach is the lowest selling Halo game...wait, something doesn't sound right here. Oh yeah, it held the biggest week one sales ever for an exclusive...not just a Halo game. Not sure where you're getting your numbers from but Halo Reach has sold massive amounts and is on its way to be the highest selling Halo game ever. Current sales for Reach put it at around 9 million. For comparison Halo 3 has around 11 million sales but has been on the market for around 3 more years. Say what you want but Halo is still a very relevant franchise with a huge fanbase that pulls in sales numbers that VERY few games are able to accomplish. http://www.vgchartz.com/art...
I threw up a little in my mouth when I seen the vg link. You can delete the bookmark, they are not a credible source for numbers. -Death
Ok, then what's a credible source to find long term sales numbers for games? The only other thing I can find is NPD for the month of it's release which pegs it at around 3.3 million US sales. Show me someplace else that provides said numbers and I will gladly quote them instead. Regardless the main point I'm trying to convey is that Reach sold huge.
Yeah it should, Microsoft needs to get its house in check, start bringing games to PC and not on that fail Games for Windows Live/Xbox Live. Steam!!!! Also http://www.geek.com/article... Last Xbox 360 game I got was Halo Reach, why because I'm not paying £40 for inferior games, when I can get far better PC versions for half the price.
LOOKS LIKE THE NEXT XBOX ALSO HAS NO GAEMZ HAHAHAHAHAHA *trollface* ;)
More likely is that it will be out on 360 only and that the next XBOX isn't due for a while. In other words all these articles about the next XBOX being released soon that are supposedly pulled from "industry insiders" are actually articles pulled from "their arses."
I dont see that happening, doing that would not get any sales of the 720 since people would already own a console that could play halo 4, so why would Microsoft want to do that? Halo 4 will most likely be on the xbox 360 and the next titles would be on the 720
Does anyone remember Halo 2, which had both Xbox360 and Xbox Original players playing the same game, together.
I remember that quite fondly... *sheds a tear* Ahh the good ol' days.
I remember playing it those last few hours, the population slowly boiled down to about 150 players left online, and then I was forced to shut it down, to never sign on ever again. I was running on two hours of sleep from the night before, and I needed to get at least an hour or two of sleep before school that morning. *weeps*
Nah. Halo 4 is coming out this November. Don't expect new Xbox until November 2013.
Of course... 360 and Windows
Well microsoft owns halo..So yea..duh!