MP1st - Senior Gameplay Designer, Alan Kert,z shares his thoughts on the FAMAS, Operation Metro on Conquest and discusses Comrose on consoles.
Wow FAMAS is over powered in all games. Black Ops and now Battlefield 3. Maybe the gun is supposed to be over powered? Screw gun balance. Lets have realism instead!
Maybe because it's a French gun?
Damascus is op? Bunch of idiots. If that were true, everyone would have been playing with Famas.
Damn t9 dictionary. I meant famas not damascus lol.
I agree with gravelord. GUNS ARE DEADLY! All you people crying about realism should want ALL guns to be as deadly as possible because in real life THEY ARE! Sniper Rifles are one shot kills unless a miracle occurs. And even if you don't die from it you'd be so incapacitated that you would die while trying to hobble to safety. Assault Rifles with 556 NATO rounds .... F'ING deadly as F! You get shot in a game ... you should die. Unless you get shot in your Kevlar plate.
Even in Modern Warfare 2.
I stopped using it in MW2 because people kept calling me a "tryhard" whenever I kept winning. I started using the Vector and people still call me "tryhard"... :/
Yeah even when I used the F2000 in MW2 people would cry :D
it was garbage in COunter Strike now get yourself some rest
It was overpowered and over used as far back as Raven Shield if I remember correctly.
It's not over powered IMO. It just unlocks way too easily. 10 revives and 10 heal for a gun that good? All that does is make it a newb gun. It really should have been one of the last guns you unlock in the assault class not the first gun you get from assignments. Besides I like the KH2002.
I agree, for being such a great gun it should have been a second tier unlock. Too bad the L85a2 is pretty good as well.
I think it is a business strategy. Give ppl Famas and make others Want to have that gun and to get that you need to buy DLC.
WOW.........and the babies will continue bitching! First the anti-air and AT weapons and IR scope. Fcked those two up quite nicely. Now the FAMAS. I wonder what else they will bitch about next?
Its ridiculous there are plenty of guns as good or better than the FAMAS. The only thing I like about the FAMAS is its burst fire mode. Its the best, even besting the M16a4 and An Akaban.. AEK, F2000, L85A2 are guns that I use to beat the FAMAS.
agreed for L85! the memories of the IW from socom alone makes me wanna use it all the time
Ah the IW from Socom. Talk about an OP gun. Hell your own teammates would vote you out for using it. Ah I miss the Socom community. Never had anything like it since.
In his latest dialogue with Battlefield fans, he mentioned some changes he had in mind for weapon balance; specifically, attachments. “Working on rebalancing foregrip, heavy barrel, silencer, and flash suppressor. Less OP combos and more interesting choices is the goal.” Alan Kertz thinks it is overpowered too. If not so then he would not consider so many changes, don' t you think?
I use the Famas a lot myself, and even I think it's overpowered. Am I a whiny baby also? Face the facts, sometimes things need to be re-balanced if something is flawed or overpowered. No game is perfect. And no, F2000 does not beat the Famas. I use both, and the Famas simply kills faster, and has more range than the F2000. The only thing the F2000 might be better than the Famas in is maybe SLIGHTLY less recoil. MAYBE slightly.
Yah I'm not a complainer at all and am not complaining now, but I do get beat by Famas users a LOT, like making 1/4 of my deaths just from that gun. It's power is especially apparent when I go head to head with them, full health, I get the first shot off but then just die to the extreme speed and power of the thing. Am I asking for a nerf, no. Would a nerf be nice? yes :) Still, DICE has been listening to crybabies since BF3 launched :/ There's plenty of other problems to fix then just weapons, weapons, weapons! Stuff like not being able to jump over a 2 ft rail in metro is annoying as hell -_-
Wrong, the FAMAS has more range but the F2000 destroys it in close quarters. (I also added that those are guns I...I use to beat it. If you guys suck with it not my problem! Lmao sorry trolling is fun) Also stated AS GOOD OR BETTER. You lose good day sir.
@Spitfire_Riggz: F2000 "destroys it in close quarters?" Could you be more vague? Like I said, the one, solitary thing I might give the F2000 is that it jumps up slightly less in full auto, making it slightly easier to hipfire. But the difference is really negligible. Famas simply kills faster, both at long range, and in close quarters. The time-to-kill performance of the Famas is simply better. I've used both guns extensively. After a long period of exclusively using the Famas, I decided to switch back to the F2000 on Operation Metro just for kicks. I was shocked at how many bullets it took to kill somebody compared to the Famas. I got so used to killing people so quickly w/ the Famas that I did a double-take w/ the F2000, letting go of the trigger too early because I thought I killed the guy. The difference in time-to-kill is just that noticeable. It's not that you can't beat the Famas w/ an F2000. I can beat the Famas w/ a REX revolver if I had to, in the right situation. I'm just speaking objectively in terms of weapon balance. Many people already thought the F2000 was OP, and the Famas takes it up yet another notch. There's a reason you rarely see anyone use the F2000 anymore. It seems like every Assault-class player traded it in for the Famas.
I dont use the FAMAS for a couple of reasons. First being it starts out with the 12x scope and my playing style doesn't cater at all to scopes. The standard iron sights on the FAMAS suck also as they block pretty much all your vision. So its been frustrating to try using it to unlock sights that I would actually use. 2nd beef is that many times Ive had the drop on people and are currently unloading ammo into them but if they use a FAMAS I usually end up dead as a couple of rounds from it kills you. Yes lots and lots of people are using it, so that says a lot about its power.
WAHAHAHAHA!! i just noticed that i did not change the number from two to three.......ahh well!!
@WetN00dle69 No kidding, i can't even use the IR scope even at night in BF3... how screwed up is that!? However, the FAMAS is freaking overpowered though... i mean one burst will kill you. I haven't bought the DLC yet but whenever i kill someone that's got it and take it, i usually never die the entire match afterwards.
Yeah they messed up the IR scope bad! R.I.P my IR scope.........i will no longer be able to spot and kill camping fruitcakes.
I hate Operation Metro on CQ. I think it's one of the wost mp maps I have ever played, and will leave the game if I am not playing with friends. Is the FAMAS really that overpowered? I still like the AEK Assault rifle.
I love that level lol! Always total mayhem around the elevator flag :)
i hate all the small maps on CQ or rush.. big clusterfawk,very limited pathways to get to the objective, no vehicles,almost no destruction.. its like they were made for COD fans.. its a pain in the ass to leave the game when bazaar, metro or siege come next.. specially when im having a good game
Metro is enjoyable if you're a kill-whore and have a stacked team in your favor.
Who plays FPS's and doesn't like kills? Metro CQ is fine on console with 24 players
I thought the AEK-91 was the strongest.
Famas just has a faster fire rate. AEK-971 has a 750 fire rate and Famas has 900.
It sounds like he might not nerf the FAMAS itself, but nerf the FAMAS with the suppressor and forgrip attachment.
we dont need cam rose, and that link to the other article talking about how there going to mess with the foregrip and the other attachments pisses me off.
Yeah, it seems a little bit uneeded eh? I mean, it's a very specific thing.
balance is good but if they are making guns more inaccurate by nerfing suppressors and forgrip they are screwing PS3 gamers who still have to live with input lag
that doesn't make any sense
To many kids whining atm on BF3 rippig the heart an soul outta the game soon it will be MW3. Makes me wonder how many have actually payed BF games in the past and i don't mean bfbc. The nerfing in some cases has been just. But in some cases they are removing realism from real world tech where there is evidence to point to that thing working to that degree. Thats just silly. They tiped alot of the balance the way of the snipers thanks to campers with the irnv yet the real life counterpart of the irnv when used correctly did as it was shown originally in the game. http://www.youtube.com/watc... In no way was it anything like the bull crap that goes on in MW3 overwatches airstrikes etc sometimes theres more crap in the sky than there is skill being put in with your weapons in that game. But end of the day it ain't even something i relied on. But they are started to move threw the weapons now aswell shifting away at the balance there aswell. Imo moving from realism to arcade you really wan't the next BF game to play like another COD your on the right track tbh.
Operation Metro is my favorite conquest map but I play on PS3 so I can see where on pc with max players it would be a cluster f*ck. Yes Famas is the new fotm weapon because it's slightly OP. Now that we are talking about BF3 has DICE fixed input lag or VOIP on PS3 yet? Thought not.
nerf the frag rounds instead. FAMAS is counter to the cheats with the USAS with frag.
They could use one of the dpads for console comorose like hold down to bring it up and use the right analog to cycle through the commands.
Wow people can't stop whining and complaining here we go again. They are going to keep tweaking this game and it's going to end up completely stale with no variety. Then people will complain there is no difference or all the weapons feel the same. Just play the game. If ANYTHING needs nerfing it's the god awful PS3 input lag.
BF3 will end up like black ops at this rate.
welcome to battlefield. you must be used to cod and their release and forget attitude. dice will continue to remove weapon exploits until the only benefit comes from choosing the right weapon for your playing style, mood and situation, not just using the same weapon over and over because it gives you an advantage
Welcome to battlefield? Lol I been playing battlefield since BF2. This type of thing DICE is doing is only because of the COD players who are crying. When were weapons nerfed in BF2, 2142, BF modern combat, BFBC1-2? No not to this magnitude. Wamp wamp nerf this nerf that. This is too strong that is not strong enough. If anything you got your games mixed up. This is the COD crowd that complains about stuff like this. They should complain about COD because there have been balance issues ever since COD 4. Not the battlefield crowd though.
I think stop being a baby and deal with it. Just because some complain does not mean everyone thinks that. Some people to are just babies and wont deal with it. Unless its ruining the hole game don't change anything that does not need changed really. For example the stupid term "noob tube" someone likes that gun and is good with it? Ok get better at the game and you go kill him don't complain to the developer. I personally feel they should just be making it better putting money and effort to things that really need to be changed and add great new things. Not fix stupid things like a supposedly over powered FAMAS. I love the FAMAS but I still have plenty of guys that destroy me. I'm no where near unstoppable, sometimes I have my good moments and destroy to but its not every time I play the game. This shit just really gets to me if its not game breaking (something like this) don't bother with it.
That's the problem with DICE I've noticed, they listen to EVERY complaint or crybaby that gets tossed their way. In away though, it does show you that DICE actually listens to it's fanbase's opinion (as harmful and helpful as that is) unlike a lot of devs these days, which is always good.
The russian spawn has the advantage in Conquest on OM. They can get to B quicker than the other team therefore capturing the B flag quicker.
yea the famas has been overpowerd lately across many games it should have a high fire rate, maybe lower accuracy and bullet damage?
I read somewhere that the bullet damage depends on the round, so all 5.56 bullets do the same damage its only the rate of fire and recoil that make a difference. It would be interesting to see how they get around that if its true.
oh i see what you mean.. maybe they make a differe 5.56 bullet for the Famas in the game?
if your team manages to capture the 3 points in metro early on itll be hell for the opposing team getting out of spawn. ive found myself on both sides.
The down button on the D-pad should be comarose. Or click the back button twice would work.
haha all you famas noobs will finally be evened out, just like you M60 noobs in BFBC2
who bother about famas or any other weapon ? i do care was the voice chat fix !! it been so long ..
Don't they have testers anymore?
Haha FAMAS, L85 all the way!
There's practically no difference between the AEK and FAMAS, so why bitch about it? Because you suck? This is the same kind of thinking that destroyed the UMP (mind you that was ACTUALLY overpowered to begin with). Now the bloody thing shoots pellets, to a quite ridiculous degree.
lol metro, popular.
The Famas is indeed overpowered in my humble opinion. I say this not only because I get mowed down by it all the time and that its presence overwhelms many of the matches I play (PS3), but also because I myself can attest to its efficacy first hand. With no other weapon did I get to 200 kills let alone 100 kills faster than I did with the Famas. I'm not a great player by any means, perhaps better than average. But I unlocked all of the Famas' attachments in record time due to its vast homicidal superiority to other guns both at close and mid-range (burst/semi-auto fire). When I used other guns, not so much. It's as if the 2nd expansion assault gun, the L85A2, which was far more tedious and difficult to unlock was a mere afterthought. I do miss Bad Company 2, despite the OP'd M60 and AN-94.
Fix the mics on the PS3, i'm tired of using skype lol.
Whatever, fix the gun glitches in the new maps.
Yeah, every BTK weapon is overpowered.
Leave the guns as it is.nothing wrong with em.whats the point complaining about overpowered this n that.this carries on all guns will be the same.whats the point in that
Whine, whine, whine, whine, whine.... Thats all the news that come out of the "fanbase" of this game. The SCAR-H is too OP... the IRNV is too much, I don't like claymores, why G36c is too much, WEAPONS shouldn't be able to kill me..... How about we complain about things that matter, fixing that VOIP for our fellow ps3 gamers, gaining the ability to either mess around with the kill cam, I don't want to be staring at the faggot for like 5 seconds only to have 3 more seconds to wait to deploy, let me mess around with my gear if I want to whilst I'm dead. Why can't I pick the camo for my RU forces to be separate to my US forces. I'm sick and f------ tired of the indestructible post in the bloody maps. I understand if you hit it the first time and it kills you. AS LONG AS IT FALLS OVER... Not this bullshit that I can't really making attacking runs on the jets on Operation Firestorm or hell some times Kharg Island because of those F----ing posts. This is my first BF game that I have owned, but in the nearly 60 hours that I have played this game, I've learned to not go and look for a revenge kill. Take your time is a long game, you'll get your payback. There is no opposing player with no "OP Gun" that some skill and my M416 can't handle.
I sit in BF3 and complain about one thing, the nerf platoons. All they do is whine about this and that. I don't even have the FAMAS because I don't use the assualt class. But at the same time I can barely remember being killed by it and wouldn't cry just because it happened. It's the player not the gun.
I got a weird glitch going on karg island drive up the ramps inside the ship and roll the vehicle upside down then you are a submarine can drive on the ocean floor,you cant shoot or be shot but you can surface near the beach unseen squad can spawn on you its a laugh seeing guys on the beach panic when you surface.
I remember the famas (G2) being the best weapon in RainbowSixVegas too lol... Its one sexy gun by the way :P