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Submitted by ssb3173 981d ago | opinion piece

IGN: Revengeance Will Ruin Metal Gear Solid

Metal Gear Solid helped define video games in the late '90s. Hideo Kojima's resurrection of Solid Snake on the original PlayStation was a waking moment for the industry, bringing a new sense of gameplay innovation and cinematic flair at a time when it was most needed. Yet increasingly Metal Gear Solid stands as the pinnacle of its series. The Metal Gear games have strayed from what made the original so great, and while each of them seem to capture some excellence from the past, watching the new Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance trailer proves the franchise has now irreversibly derailed. (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, PS3, Xbox 360)

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yesmynameissumo  +   981d ago
I'll treat this as I do "The Walking Dead" TV series. It has nothing to do with the comics. "Metal Gear Rising" has nothing to do with "Metal Gear Solid". I don't give a damn what Konami or Platinum Games say.
aCasualGamer  +   981d ago
I doubt this has anything to do with the storyline in Metal Gear Solid series.

But that doesn't bother me. When i played MGS4 and saw that cutscene with Raiden going apeshiet on those cow-drones i honestly wanted a game where it's just me controlling raiden with his blade.

I finally got that. And i'm pretty certain, since Kojima has little to do with Revengeance, that we will be seeing a new MGS game from Kojima soon.

Also, didn't Platinum games make Bayonetta? That game was superb from gameplay point of view and revengeance will be great i'm sure of it.
crxss  +   981d ago
it's MGR not MGS, game is going to be sweet in my opinion. since Kojima Productions is doing the story and Platinum games is doing the gameplay i don't see how you can go wrong.

the author of this article is: Rich George... an Executive Editor of IGN.com and the leader of the IGN "NINTENDO" team. come on now, MGR wont even be on a Wii console.
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yesmynameissumo  +   981d ago
My issue is they are saying it takes place years after MGS4, so they are (indirectly) tying the two series together. There's no way I'm not playing it, but I have to separate it from MGS. Regardless of what they say it's just Rising to me, without the Metal Gear. Platinum Games know how to make action titles, so I'm not concerned with that at all. I think if I separate the two in my mind, as I did with The Walking Dead, I'll enjoy it far more.
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OmegaSlayer  +   981d ago
I think gamers nowadays are a flock of brainless people.
They only crave militar FPSs when we have seriously too many of them.
They go apeshit for a trailer that doesn't show anything (The Last Of Us) just because it's made from the best studio ever, they go apeshit for a CGI trailer that doesn't show anything (Transformer) from a decent dev studio.
They like the new DmC that is the epitome of emptiness and they bash MGR.
They want a story but complain about long cutscenes and linear gameplay.
I think something is seriously wrong with the new generation of gamers.
Seriously
FEARprototype  +   981d ago
they already said that they dropped the "solid" from the title.

so don't worry, enjoy the game when it come out^^
MsclMexican  +   981d ago
Agreed....

The reason I loved MGS is because Snake seemed like a badass... he struggled to defeat the Metal Gears and you felt accomplished doing it...

But this.... YOUR TELLING ME RAIDEN CAN F**KING PICK UP METAL GEAR RAY... THROW IT LIKE A FREAKING BASKET BALL... THEN PROCEED TO CUT IT IN HALF?

This game really is Bayonetta with an MGS skin... and I detested Bayonetta (sorry but it was not a game for me)... played it on ps3, so yeah

Im just going to ignore this game, and refuse to treat it as part of the Metal Gear franchise

What Kojima presented at e3 2010 looked miles better than this

Also it pains me that xbox fans will be getting this as their first MG game...

Actually no the collection is out... get the collection and enjoy the metal gear franchise for what it is....
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Optical_Matrix  +   981d ago
What Kojima presented at E3 was exactly what we saw in the trailer. The whole slowing down and cutting people is STILL in the game. Hell, this graphical downgrade people keep whining about is non existant in my eyes.

That E3 trailer was basically a tech demo. Kojima even said in an interview that the reason the original Rising was cancelled is because they made that trailer without even thinking of where they could take the game from there. All they had was the Zan-Datsu concept and it was hard to make a game from nothing like that.

The game is a spin off. Has nothing to do with the main 'Solid' series of the franchise. Whats the problem? Plenty of great game franchises have spin offs. Stop crying because you all seemed to think this would be Metal Gear Solid 5. It never was meant to be in the first place.

Just pipe down. Don't buy the game and wait for the inevitable next numerical Metal Gear Solid game.
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Iroquois_Pliskin  +   981d ago
No optical_matrix, are you blind? Do you not see the difference between the e3 trailer and the vga trailer?
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kaveti6616  +   981d ago
You have no say in whether the game is canon or not.

I don't like the fact that Jar Jar Binks is an integral part of Star Wars, but what can I do about it?
Lord_Sloth  +   981d ago
Since it's not part of the Solid series, it's not very likely.

You can't spell "Ignorant" without IGN.
kaveti6616  +   981d ago
Wow, people are still saying that?
PS_Family  +   981d ago
Wow how original. I bet you feel so proud.
Lord_Sloth  +   981d ago
Meh. I hadn't heard it in a while so decided to toss it back out there.
SpaceFox  +   981d ago
It's not Metal Gear Solid FFS! IGN fails yet again.
LondonMediaOS  +   981d ago
And here comes IGN= Andy Dick; kills every party....
AnimeAvenger  +   981d ago
OMFG.

You people are just sad. Are you really hating on Rising just because it doesn't have stealth and your bf Snake?
Like f***, this game looks amazing, and I for one will be picking it up.
UltimateIdiot911  +   981d ago
You sir know nothing about MGS games and/or are no where remotely close to a fan.

If you know anything about the story, setting and the characters then you will understand the extreme caution fans are taking with Rising.

BTW, it's not because it's missing stealth and Snake not being it. Start from there.
AnimeAvenger  +   980d ago
Actually I do understand.

I know this game takes place after MGS4 which is stupid but whats stupid is people aren't even giving the game a try.

As far as I'm aware, stealth and Snake are key. If they weren't, then how come people are always complaining here about it?
Software_Lover  +   981d ago
Its not a "Solid" game. End of story Ignorant Gaming News.
remanutd55  +   981d ago
Metal Gear Solid ? uh ? i didnt know it was part of the solid series
Burning_Finger  +   981d ago
They should have call it Metal Gear Raiden.
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WitWolfy  +   981d ago
EXACTLY, and why the FUDGE does the title say "THE RIPPER RETURNS" since when was Raiden ever refer to as "The Ripper" in any MGS title??? What a hunk of shit.
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deimos616  +   981d ago
MGS2: Raiden was called Jack the Ripper as a child soldier during the Liberian Civil War. You've got internet, use it.
Squall_Leonhart  +   981d ago
Is it like automatically cool to hate on IGN? Damn I mean it's just someones opinion. Someones opinion doesn't account for the rest of them amarite? Anyways apart from that I'm seeing where he's coming from and I kind of agree with it.
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yewles1  +   981d ago
Just like AC!D ruined it before... oh wait--
Megaton  +   981d ago
What's with all you people trying to pretend it has nothing to do with the entire franchise just because it doesn't have "Solid" in the name? Why are you trying so hard to spin and defend?
WildStyles  +   981d ago
Even though I'm looking forward to this game, the folks out here upset have a right to be upset. I'm not even mad at the outcry from the hard core Metal Gear fans. They were expecting one thing and got something completely different. Of course they'd upset be seeing a wannabee DMC/Ninja Gaiden clone with Raiden as the main character.
Titanz  +   981d ago
Slow your horses people
If the PS3 version supports the Move controller, then there's no doubt in my mind that this game will be a blast to play.
Colonel_Dante  +   981d ago
Did you watch the same trailer I did? Even if the game let you hook up sensors to you head to control Raidens sword it'll remain cheesy and boring as hell. Cheesiness belongs in Bayonetta!! NOT the Metal Gear Universe. I think the writers at PG need to grow up..
KingSlayer  +   981d ago
He's not saying it's a Metal Gear Solid game, he's saying Rising is (by being named Metal Gear and the creative choices made) is damaging the MGS franchise.

@yes
I completely agree. That's really the only way to look at it.
Darkfiber  +   981d ago
That's a bold statement for IGN. I thought they were normally paid off to NOT say stuff like that. Come on, Platinum, cough up some money.
Squall_Leonhart  +   981d ago
Y'all do know this game takes place after MGS4 correct? Platinum Games were working on the idea they originally had and couldn't work around it which was set in between 2 and 4 so they had to rewrite the whole script because of that.
refocusedman  +   981d ago
I somewhat agree with the article. The fact of the matter is that the game still has the title metal gear. The word solid is not the title that has made the series famous. So fans wont be confused, I dont think that this should be branded metal gear. People say that its not a real metal gear game because it doesnt have solid in the title. What most people dont seem to realize is that they have Raiden and a MG ray, so it makes the game very familiar. I really think some fans will be mad because at the end of the day this is still metal gear and thats what people truly want to play. (is revengeance even a word?) This is like turning DMC, god of war, or bayonetta into a stealth game.
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Akiba96  +   981d ago
Actually having Solid in there does indicate a true mgs game if you ask me.

Think about metal gear acid for the psp.. would you consider that as being part of the series? I sure as hell don't.
Colonel_Dante  +   981d ago
God, that trailer from the VGA's was so lame.
Lame voiceover work.
Lame script.
Lame combat.
Lame taglines.
I could go on..
I'll just say its a cheesy bayonetta vibe..with Raiden instead.
They got a fake sounding Quentin Flynn to do the voices even. Why not get the REAL voice actor? I especially felt the ending when it flashes "METAL" "GEAR" "Rising".. that they purely trying to capitilize on the name. Well, being a student, money is tight, I dont have money for crap like that. Kojima San, give me MGS5.
TheMutator  +   981d ago
platinum games!!! take my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pozzle  +   981d ago
Even if it ends up being a terrible game, it will never ruin the awesomeness of the original MGS games.
aman84r  +   981d ago
So far what i've seen i think the combat looks quite fun and im happy that storyline moved to post mgs4 prequels are mostly boring.Raiden is finally getting the spotlight so which means people who dont like him can go cry in the corner and those who like him get a chance to experience raiden to his full potential.
Nac  +   981d ago
I miss the combat from the first trailer, the one where a blade actually cut like a blade. Slicing your enemies in half shouldn't be a reward after a combo or something like that, it should be a constant.
gypsygib  +   981d ago
This guy calls himself a journalist!!? He hasn't even played the game yet.

Also, once a game has established itself as good, a subsequent games can't make it any worse.

IGN moron.
BattleTorn  +   981d ago
haven't you heard? Bashing IGN isn't cool anymore...

/sarcasm
SeraphimBlade  +   981d ago
For the record, they DO acknowledge it doesn't have the "solid" part in the title, so set up your overdone IGNorant jokes differently.

That said, the MGS games are fantastic. Rising will probably be stupid, maybe even really stupid, but there's a good chance it will be fun too. (kinda like Vanquish) They'll have no impact on each other. Just like how we can still watch the original Star Wars. Worst case scenario, Rising is disappointing, and they just don't go in that direction again.
Tanir  +   981d ago
wtf??????? so spin offs ruin series....wtf?
Parapraxis  +   981d ago
Knowing IGN thinks it'll ruin the series just makes me want the game more!
Reaper9937  +   981d ago
I'm really getting pissed off with people saying this game is okay because it doesn't have 'Solid' in the name, its a spin off...

I don't give a shit if it's a spin off, this game doesn't deserve having Metal Gear in the title of this piece of tripe, what the hell is up with Raiden and why the F@ck is he so insane [Jack the Ripper - how f@cking cliche - the end part of the trailer is probably the most irritating thing I've watched in my life]. I totally agree with IGN on this one, this one game has the potential to totally derail the lofty heights that the MGS series took over a decade to obtain.

Kojima san I expected so much more from you and for this I say; F@ck u sir, all the way to hell!
Parapraxis  +   981d ago
Raiden has nothing to do with the Metal Gear series.
How dare Platinum Games take over the project and not completely scrap it and create an original IP.
/s
Akiba96  +   981d ago
This guy talks about the mgs series as if it were slowly declining since metal gear solid. I wholeheartedly disagree.

Lemme explain. Metal Gear Solid has only gotten better in my eyes. I loved the original and every game after that was just also awesome. While I do agree that rising is just a spin off at this point, but its not messing with the plot line and even kojima said its not a true 'Metal Gear Solid' but a 'Metal Gear'. But in no way have mgs 2,3,or 4 contributed to the series "going off the rails"

This guy seems incredibally errogant in his writing, like his opinion is that of most gamers, but let me say as a true mgs fan, your opinion sucks, in my opinion
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DonaldBeck  +   981d ago
looks good, but not metal gear solid good.
VAblood__lustMP  +   981d ago
guys calm down This Metal Gear Rising, not Metal Gear Solid. MGS will always stay badass. There is a reason Kojima abandoned this game. It wont count as a part of the franchise since kojima wont be making this game.He is keeping an eye on it ok not directing it.
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