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Submitted by SwilloTGL 1015d ago | news

Metal Gear Rising Was Originally Cancelled. Platinum Saved The Project

TheGamingLiberty:

"It has emerged that Metal Gear Rising was actually cancelled by Kojima Productions before Platinum Games swooped in to take over, re-envisage and ultimately rescue the project." (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, PS3, Xbox 360)

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pedo_across-the-road  +   1015d ago
That was NICE of Platinum, wouldn't you agree.
PirateThom  +   1015d ago
Not really... Platinum Games will have their best selling game ever, it makes more sense for PG to do it. Most developers would LOVE yo develop a Metal Gear game because the brand is guaranteed sales.
BakedGoods  +   1015d ago
Totally. It's probably in better hands anyway. Kojima should stick to stealth/strategy action games.
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Iroquois_Pliskin  +   1015d ago
MGR just lost that kojima feel to it
iChii  +   1015d ago
True that Thom. The only reason why they "saved" the game is because they have guaranteed sales.

I'll skip on this game tho. I didn't like Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta or Vanquish at all and this game seems to be a combination of them but with "Metal Gear" on it. And is it me, or were the graphics downgraded? When I saw Rising at E3 I was like "Woah, Me Gusta! O:" now I'm like meh. As a HUGE Metal Gear Solid fan, I'm disappointed.
zatrox  +   1015d ago
@iChii

This trailer looks worse because it runs at 60FPS, whereas the original build ran at 30.
BlindGuardian  +   1015d ago
it should've stay cancelled

I'll probably play it and have some fun but I would prefer if it didn't exist
sikbeta  +   1015d ago
It'll sell just because it has the MGS in the title alone, so it's a win/win for PG and Konami, maybe there is a reason of WHY Koji-san wasn't that involved full in this project...
Bull5hifT  +   1015d ago
I hear it's amazing when the famous giant purple stuffed worm in flapjaw space, with a tuning fork, does a raw blink on Hairi Kairi Rock! I need scissors!! 61! .................This whole Stupid idea started Cause Micro$oft Wanted to prove that MGS4 graphics could be done on 360, so they poured money into trying to prove this, even though kojima knew microsoft fans didnt really buy MGS2 when it came out on the original xbox... this was the Red Headed Stepchild, Everyone Hates Raiden, he was an Epic Fail , TOO Feminine and Weak and just a Cry Baby(Dramatical),Capital L LOSER....i respect Kojima for not trying to Half-Ass it for us' Hes an amazing storyteller, Raiden was a Mistake -same as polyphony, kojima wants the best Media to Show what he is dreaming, Uncompressed
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dredgewalker  +   1014d ago
I wasn't really interested in MGR since it was an action game and Kojima wasn't the one handling this game, but now that it has fallen on Platinum's hands it has now gotten my attention. I really did enjoy Vanquish even if it was a short game. If things went well with this game, it looks like Raiden will have his own games and may part ways with Snake.
RedDead  +   1014d ago
It looks pretty good imo. But the old E3 looked more unique the way he was cutting up the enemies and buildins, it looked like MGS but with a ninja. I always wanted a ninja game like that one. But this one is Hack and slash full on. Still it's pretty good looking so far for a hack and slash.

Still though i'll trust their judgement, if it wasn't working it wasn't working and that's it.
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jeseth  +   1014d ago
They may think they saved it, but if they make it a total abortion (which it looks like to this point) then it could be the most self damning move ever...
GribbleGrunger  +   1015d ago
'saved' is quite a stretch... 'pimped' would be closer
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j-blaze  +   1015d ago
Agreed.

Platinum is the best developer to handle this kind of fast paced action, and I'm very excited by this prospect. Rising was never intended to be MGS5, nor should it be expected. it is, and always was, intended to be a more action-based spin-off.
gaden_malak  +   1014d ago
My only problem is, it seems Raiden has lost his mood from MGS4...
v7seven  +   1014d ago
Haha, I have to agree with this comment, seeing as you copied and pasted it from a comment I wrote on 1UP.
gaden_malak  +   1014d ago
@V7 - who me or j-blaze?
Lyr1c  +   1015d ago
I think everyone is jumping to conclusions a little too soon, and mainly due to the fact that it has Metal Gear in the title.

Face it, if it was an original IP, there would be so many less complaints.

Platinum Games, while corny, usually craft wonderful experiences, so why don't we all relax and let them do their job? If it doesn't turn out so good, then so be it.
cgoodno  +   1015d ago
I dunno. The trailer looked somewhat mediocre and played out pretty bad as trailers go.

This is only good if they can make a worthwhile game, not somehow win the right to use licensed characters and settings.

What worries me is that they are kind of a mixed bag as far as good or bad games. I did not like Bayonetta, but Vanquish was okay if not way too short. MadWorld looked great but never played it since it stuck to Wii.
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TVippy  +   1014d ago
Kojima Productions are losers for not being able to produce a title different to what they did their whole life. I'm disappointed.
For them Rising was a mistake from the start, they chewed more than they could handle.
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Micro_Sony  +   1014d ago
Have to agree with you but you can not blame Kojima Pro becuase Konami was the one that saw how much money can made from the MGS name by going multiplat.

Kojima still calls shot and his say is respected in Konami becuase he can leave them and open his own studio when ever he wants, shame that Konami own the MGS franchise.

I think Kojima Productions should pull a Bungi and start their own IP becuase Konami is heading the Capcom direction.
lategamer  +   1014d ago
"...not being able to produce a title different to what they did their whole life."

I'd say Metal Gear Ac!d, Boktai, Zone of Enders and Castlevania are all vastly different from each other, and different than the MGS franchise.
TheColbertinator  +   1014d ago
@lategamer

Don't forget Lunar Knights from Kojima Productions,that was a great game.
Redempteur  +   1014d ago
"Kojima Productions are losers for not being able to produce a title different to what they did their whole life."

yeah right , like Zone of the enders ?

like boktai ?

Your rant is ridiculous
Perjoss  +   1014d ago
The Metal Gear Solid franchise has not always been exclusive to 1 platform, there is MGS1 on the PC and Gamecube, MGS2 was also on the on xbox. Only 3 and 4 have been Playstation exclusives.
orange-skittle  +   1014d ago
I never liked Hideo and this shows why.
That douche bag had the nerve to make this big announcement and had people waiting for years on the project just to cancel it because they didnt know what direction to take it in. Then this assh-le talks to media about a new project he's working on and doesn't disclose his decision to can the MGR project. Platinum takes the game over and and this son of a b-tch still wants to tag it as a Kojima Production. I cant stand his f-ckin' ass
Kos-Mos  +   1014d ago
Mind your language.
n4gisatroll  +   1014d ago
i think he was more than pressured by microsoft to make an announcement.
Prophet-Gamer  +   1014d ago
Should have been cancelled imo.
Hueynewton2012  +   1014d ago
Nope they should have cancelled it and with this news my mind has finally been made up regarding the purchase of this game. I will not be purchasing a MGS spin off made by another dev thats not Kojima studios...... Sorry, if i want hack n slash i will replay GOW3, NG 2 or wait for NG 3.

I don't care if they made vanquish, the bottom line is that they don't MGS games!!!!!
phantomexe  +   1015d ago
Platinum games is great at makeing these types of games but i don't know. I just wasn't inpressed with that video. It looked alittle...something about it didn't look right. It looked corny am i the only one that thinks so?
redDevil87  +   1015d ago
I think the whole corny aspect was done on purpose. Bayonetta and Vanquish were both extremely corny, must be PG's trademark.
Aomizuchi  +   1015d ago
If corny means a game that has a story that makes no sense, I'll have to agree. Watching a cut-scene in Bayonetta is like reading the instruction manual on a Chinese knock-off item.
orange-skittle  +   1014d ago
I thought I was the only one that felt that way. Bayonetta played well, but the story was TERRIBLE. I couldn't follow it for shit. Vanquish was pretty good, but it was too short. BTW, The REVENGANCE has to go from the title. That game looks decent but it looks like a Ninja Blade/Ninja Gaiden/Devil May Cry type of game. I saw a mech walker while they were fighting and I am wondering if thats the only link to metal gear that is visible.
Neckbear  +   1015d ago
It WAS corny, and for a reason. It's Platinum Games.

Go look at Vanquish or Bayonetta, corniness is basically their signature.
UnSelf  +   1015d ago
i think he means corny not so much in the style itself but in the fact that it represents a Metal Gear game.

Vanquish and Bayonetta are corny but cool because they are stand alone IP's. They really shouldve kept the original look of Raiden as seen in 2010's E3
phantomexe  +   1015d ago
That's what i mean it seemed corny for metal gear game. Thank ya UnSelf.
SilverSlug  +   1015d ago
Dude, corny? This is the franchise with bi-sexual vampires and a dude that is straight out of a 80's film as a hero. Come on now...
archemides518  +   1015d ago
what didn't look right is that a dude strong enough to pick up a skyscraper sized mech who also weilds a super-blade strong enough to utterly destroy it has trouble to deal out any damage to generic soldier dudes without multiple hits...it makes no sense.
FelicityOldGamer  +   1014d ago
I agree!!! Somethings missing....
Megaton  +   1015d ago
Should have stayed cancelled. Raiden was always a low point for the series, no matter how hard Kojima wanted the fans to like him.
Tainted Gene  +   1015d ago
@megaton

http://www.1up.com/features...

read this
malol  +   1015d ago
Raiden is like the luigi of the MGS world
that's why MGS2 sucked and always well be the worst in the whole main MGS2 series
Kahvipannu  +   1014d ago
Not really... I like playing Luigi, not as much as Mario, but still.

Raiden just irritated me. Stupid character.
WhiteLightning  +   1015d ago
Is it wrong for me to of wanted Bayonetta 2 from PG rather then Metal Gear Rising.
Megaton  +   1015d ago
I certainly would have preferred Bayonetta 2.
Game4life  +   1015d ago
hopefully Bayonetta 2 will come. In the mean time I'm happy with Rising
quiddd  +   1015d ago
That last statement by bakedgoods
- kinda sad
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Pikajew  +   1015d ago
I love PG. They have great devs on their team. Did people forget that the people from Clover Studios made PG?
n4gisatroll  +   1015d ago
Should have stayed canceled.
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darthelghast  +   1015d ago
Don't you mean 'should have'?
n4gisatroll  +   1015d ago
Eh.
SneeringImperialist  +   1015d ago
It should have stayed cancelled the game looks like its going to fail, crash and burn. Judging by the trailer ofc.
Perjoss  +   1014d ago
Judging games by an early teaser, not a good idea.
SneeringImperialist  +   1014d ago
"early" and "teaser" lmao....
Raider69  +   1015d ago
Bayonetta 2 is in production and is going to be release in holiday 2012!The main reason that MGRISING its not been directly supervised by Hideo Kamiya from PG its because he is Producing Bayonetta 2.Kamiya has already stated that Bayonetta 2 is in production,so i dont see any problem of having two top action games from PG insted of just one.I really hope PG delivery on MGR,maybe them SEGA can give PG the production of the Marvel IP's they own like IRON MAN,THOR ....Its ashamed what SEGA has done to this marvel IP's,Sega shoud delivery production of the Marvel IP's to Platinum Games just like Kojima did with the Raiden cannon.
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NewZealander  +   1015d ago
its set after MGS4 and its made by the people who made bayonetta? this game is going to fail massively.
dragonopt1  +   1015d ago
I've never really liked Raiden and the trailer looked unimpressive to me. I agree with phantomexe was really meh.
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poopsack  +   1015d ago
I wouldnt call that saving.
Lavalamp  +   1015d ago
I'd call it Lightning Bolt Action
archemides518  +   1015d ago
lightning bat action
TVippy  +   1014d ago
Oh yeah, it's a burial. :(
SeraphimBlade  +   1015d ago
I'll admit I'm not crazy about the story being set after the Solid series, and the trailer was a little weak in places. But I have faith in Platinum. I haven't seen them make a bad game yet. No reason for them to start now.
ZBlacktt  +   1015d ago
After what we've seen. Should have let it go. :(
mistajeff  +   1015d ago
As an action game, I thought it looked superb. But being a severe MGS fanboy since the first Solid game came out for Playstation when I was 10, I felt a little heartache watching the trailer. My hope, at this point, is that it takes a decidedly NON-canonical approach to the narrative. I don't even know what was going on in that trailer. I had always assumed this was going to be the story of Raiden's transformation, his tracking down of Sunny, and the job he pulled for Eva (to put it in relatively non-spoiler terms) before the events of 4. Now I just hope it's a solid Platinum Games action title with a Metal Gear coat of paint, and nothing more serious than that.
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Deadpool616  +   1014d ago
Don't worry it's canonical game set in a different timeline. It just doesn't touch anything in Snakes timeline. I think Kojima is just trying to get people to like Raiden now. There's so much disdain for Raiden it's crazy. I didn't have a problem with Raiden after his radical change in MGS4. If some people don't like him as a katana wielding killing machine then they're never going to like him.
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mistajeff  +   1014d ago
I liked him after MGS4 too. Also, I vaguely recall Kojima saying at some point that Raiden is his favorite character, and that he was hurt that so many people hated him in 2. But he clearly took the feedback to heart for 4.

It's not like I'm going to NOT get this. I'm too much of a Metal Gear fan to pass it up, even if it ends up being terrible by all standards. I'm just concerned, is all. Mainly about the plot. I'm okay with it not being a stealth game. It's a different series, it's MGR as opposed to MGS. That's fine by me, despite how much I love some good old fashioned MGS stealth.

If this takes place AFTER 4, that would excuse a lot of the craziness in the trailer, and would actually make a lot more sense.
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crowsticky1234  +   1015d ago
No wonder it doesn't have that Metal Gear Solid feel and there's not a possibility of stealth. But I'm not quite happy that it's from a different developer. Let's just hope Platinum Games dont't fuck it up cuz it seems like it.
Arnagrim  +   1015d ago
So is this even canon to Metal Gear?
mistajeff  +   1015d ago
I really hope not
NotSoSilentBob  +   1015d ago
With the history of Metal Gear Solid being tarnished by a hack and slash game I would rather have seen it Cancelled and an actual MGS(STEALTH) game made.
Hicken  +   1014d ago
Oh, look! Another game we know almost nothing about! Let's bash it based on a trailer and some words!

... and it's NOT a Solid game.
NotSoSilentBob  +   1014d ago
It is using the Metal Gear name to get peoples attention. If they wanted to make it on its Own they should title it Raiden Rising or something along that lines. We have see the trailers with nothing but hack and slash just like Bayonetta(another mediocre hack and slash). Enough is known to justify what I said.
Hicken  +   1014d ago
It's using the Metal Gear name because it's set in the Metal Gear universe. Why shouldn't it be called Metal Gear? Because you have a preconceived notion of what every game set in that world should be like?

Here's a thought for you: in a game world with THAT much history, is it impossible to think that not everybody is Snake? Would a game based around Ocelot be a bunch of sneaking around?

Be reasonable, instead of reactionary.
Tyre  +   1015d ago
The text popping all over the place in the trailer looked corny, the game looked great. Definitely buying it, but the hopes for this game have faded. Darn it looked so cool in the 1st trailer by Kojima productions, Why Kojima? This could have been a worthy game to the MGS franchise, now it looks like a Bayonetta/Ninja Gaiden game starring Raiden.
MysticStrummer  +   1015d ago
Another reason to avoid this game, as though I needed another. Kojima is barely involved, yet the words Metal Gear are in the title. Come on now.
Plagasx  +   1015d ago
Well...that would explain why it looks so different now...
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h311rais3r  +   1015d ago
Shame. The original concept was better. It even fit the mg universe. Oh well. Gotta please the masses...........
LettingGo  +   1015d ago
So...you guys didn't like Okami, Viewtiful Joe, or Devil May Cry?!?
UltimateIdiot911  +   1015d ago
It's being made by PG's B team.
Truerandom  +   1014d ago
The director of those games is not involved.

http://n4g.com/news/903891/...
AnimeAvenger  +   1015d ago
Thanks you PG. Yes, I'm serious.

I've been waiting to long for this game since it was announced. I cannot wait even if there isn't stealth.
NinjaSky  +   1015d ago
To the people who still thinks that this is set after mgs4 doesn't know what they're talking about this is a prelude. Don't believe me? den why is Raiden fighting the guy who he killed in MGS 4? Answer? Prelude
MainstreamGamer  +   1015d ago
Didn't read the article did you? Kojima Production tweeted that it takes place several years after MGS4, smart one.
Sargerus  +   1014d ago
Read this:

METAL GEAR SOLID: RISING was a spin-off intended to feature the actions and transformation of Raiden, one of METAL GEAR SOLID 2: SONS OF LIBERTY’s main characters, in the lead-up to METAL GEAR SOLID 4: GUNS OF THE PATRIOTS.
However, after Platinum Games came on board, the story was changed to take place several years after METAL GEAR SOLID 4 to give them more of an opportunity to show off what they can bring to the series. Cyborgs are spreading at a rapid pace in the game’s world, resulting in earth-shattering superhuman action at every turn!
http://www.konami.jp/mgr/en...

TL;DR: Rising is set AFTER MSG4, not Before.
eliteowner12  +   1014d ago
wtf, this story makes absolutely no sense then. In the end of mgs4 Raiden gets back his original body, and the war ends. How the hell are they going to explain why Raiden randomly becomes a cyborg AGAIN, and another war appears out of nowhere. ugh....
Papertiger  +   1015d ago
Im thinking, honestly it should have stayed cancelled and platinum games should have instead focused on creating Bayonetta 2, while kojima productions were to somehow create a different metal gear foundation. Anything would have sufficed.

I for one would have LOVED a story where The boss herself was the titular character along with old snake as her protege. There were so many unanswered questions about her past that were intriguing.
mac_sparrow  +   1014d ago
A game where you play as The Boss would be excellent, personally this new game is looking more and more like a pass from me. I've said it numerous times before, I really hope I am wrong, but it just doesn't look like being a Metal Gear game to me.
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   1015d ago
Oh this is fantastic. SO basically an action game of my favourite series with a great story/characters made by the best action game creators? Seriously this is SICK!
Perjoss  +   1014d ago
And it's multi-platform so more people can enjoy it.
Kenshin_BATT0USAI  +   1014d ago
Hell I don't mind that, I've never cared for this console war BS. LOL
Armsgraph  +   1015d ago
as a big fan of metal gear im disappointed to read that the changed the original story.i would like to of had some light shed on wtf happen to raiden but i feel that ship has crashed and burned. ill adnit my heart is a little broken to also read that kojima was willing to give up. smh
mac_sparrow  +   1014d ago
Hopefully now we can mostly agree that while it's likely to be a decent enough game, it likely won't be Metal Gear.
Ezio2048  +   1015d ago
man i JUST LOVED the trailer!!!!!
thank you Platinum Games!!!!
Captain Qwark 9  +   1014d ago
me too, game looks fun. the peeps on this site complain way too much....
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