GB : Just like Sony, Microsoft has updated their TOS, which states that you cannot imitate a class action lawsuit against them. Even EA did this with Origin a few months ago, when Battlefield 3 came out. So
Wow I guess they need to in order to protect their own selves.
well i wonder if they did it because they know they can't win against a Class Action Lawsuit but they can easly ingore a individual?
The cost for an individual to sue far exceeds the gain by factors of hundreds of thousands once it's completed. Who is going to sue anyone for a measly several hundred dollars which is what all these console stuff is worth? However, it leaves it completely open for MS and Sony to take advantage of their consumers! You essentially lost your right to complain about anything!!!
this is only for the USA right? We dont have class action suits in the UK/EU
who does not these days... with people using every excuse under the sun to try and sue to make a quick buck.
Well probably won't be long before every major company does this.
Yep, i love how everyone was saying sony was the evil one lol.
Well they started it, then EA followed, now Microsoft. So yes, they're the evil one. Just like EA is the evil one when it comes to Online Passes. THQ followed, then Ubisoft, then Sony for their exclusives. Who's next?
@xPhearR3dx So, what? "He did it first!" is grounds for a moral backbone? There isn't any "THE" evil ones if a group commits a crime one after the other. What makes a single person more guilty than another if everyone commits the same sin? Order? Precedent?
@SilentNegotiator "What makes a single person more guilty than another if everyone commits the same sin? Order? Precedent?" By being the first in the order, a precedent is being set. This allows others to follow, knowing that if another company got away with something then so can others.
This s*cks b*lls! I want companies to be accountable for their actions and by making it a binding arbitration and preventing class action lawsuits, it essentially means nothing will ever happen. I don't agree with frivolous lawsuits, but I still believe some class action lawsuits has merit despite the fact that the consumer almost never get anything worthwhile from it. It acts as a balance to prevent companies from abusing their power. Sony started it, EA followed and now MS! This is BS!
Irks a bit, but I am still gonna play mine, no biggie.
Looks like someone's been reading Kotaku
Funny thing is this wouldn't hold up in a court where I live.
I didnt read it just wanted to jump back in play the fun action my money goes on games not lawyers
Doesn't hold up in court
What? Now they can just give away our personal information. I highly doubt these will hold up in court. I really want to block submitter and this site but it doesn't work.
"Now they can just give away our personal information" Quit being melodramatic. You don't seriously think any government/judicial system would let them "give away" personal information? Do you really think that is what these TOS clauses are about? Information gets stolen. Theft happens. unfortunately. Sony and MS have preventive measures, but everything can be breached. Suing the company for being robbed is like suing a bank for a stick-up. If you don't want to agree to that risk, don't. Don't update your firmware or agree to a new TOS. Playing video games online is not a necessity to life.
This was incredibly easy to say and then you go on ranting(common sense stuff) which doesn't help. Looking back on some of your comments it looks like you just find an easy topic to flip and roll out of proportion. All the signs of a troll.
I remember checking this out when sony did it, that clause is void because it requires whoever signs it to waive one of thier rights which apprently individuals cant do.
LOL... Can't imitate a class action suit! Who approved this?
Right! That settles it. *Files lawsuit against Nintendo before the chance is gone*
Pfft, as if a TOS would hold up in court.
Just like Sony's & EA's agreements...this one is more a "show" peice rather than something that will legally hold up. I can assure everyone here that should something big happen that is worthy of a class action... it can and probably would happen. These companys put up these T&C's to help prevent / deter would be lawsuits. If you think you can't file a suit, you are most likely not going to pursue trying to do it. It's legal mis-direction 101.
Yup precisely. These are bluff exclusion clause that many companies utilise. In the UK, these clauses are subject to a test of reasonableness under the Unfair Contract Terms Act 1977. Nothing to see here.
Oh so Sony is not the bad man after all? Morons...
B-b-but Sony is the only evil one here!
What happened to the don't let them take your rights people who complained when Sony did this?
I never accepted those terms, that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
funny how i'm not seeing the same bloodlust as a few months ago when sony implemented *the exact same clause* in their latest ToS...
Stop defending Sony and Microsoft as if you had anything to do with it.
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