Users show continued support for Bethesda, even after the bugs/glitches of Skyrim and Fallout.
I know there's bugs and glitches, and many of them simply shouldn't have gotten through testing. Others are understandable due to the amount of various elements within the game that have to work together; trying to test out all the variants would have been incredibly hard. But the real question is this: have the bugs and glitches spoiled my enjoyment of the game? Do I love it anyway? Yup.
I vowed to support bethesda, but then I took an arrow to the knee.
Your stupid. Every game they made on the ps3 is always an inferior piece of shit compared to the 360 and pc version. If you play any of their games, then play final fantasy 13, omg! The production value, quality and nearly glitch free game kills Bathesda games hands down! Its embarrassing really! Sure skyrim has a better story than final fantasy 13, but that's where it ends.
Anyone who expected a Bethesda game to not have issues at launch is a moron.
You obviously haven't played PS3 version. Do I support bethesda after I payed 60$ for a broken game - HELL NO. Is bethesda on top of my "worst&laziest developers of all time" list - HELL YES. I can imagine that X360&PC players tolerate this piece of lazy ported crap, but PS3 players should boycott all future bethesda products unless this matter is resolved promptly. To think I ordered the game after they said (lied) that performance issues were resolved makes me sick.
It comes down the your own experience with the game. In 70 hours of play, on a 360, I've not actually encountered many proble,s bar the ones caused by the recent update. Most I had was AI doing a few wierd things, and a few instances of a dead body glitching through the floor.
Is Skyrim a great game - YES Is it broken as hell - YES Skyrim is a great game I own it for pc it really blows when you playing it and all of a sudden you get a crash to desktop no error just straight up closes on you, and you lose all the time and data. Bugs like this shouldn't happen ever. I feel for ps3 owners as the game gets worse as you play.
I've got 136 hours on the PS3 version. When my save file got to 10mb I started getting the infamous lag problem, but if I saved/quit/continued it would go away for a couple of hours. After the patch it seems better but I still save/quit/continue to fix the lag that does still happen. The only other glitches I've seen in that 136 hours are finished quests that don't disappear from my log, one stationary dragon hovering in the sky, and townspeople who appear in my house when I do if they are nearby when I go through the door. Hardly gamebreaking issues. I had more serious glitch problems with Dead Island than with Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim combined.
Tbh I haven't experienced many bugs so far on pc. I'm playing on ultra settings. The random exits to the desktop have been the only annoying thing so far apart from the stupid companion ai and the occasional dragon refusing to give up its soul. Bugs don't seem to bother me as much as they do others. Its an open world game after all with a huge amount of freedom and possibilities in regard to what order players do things. Though I do think they should have more testers test the game and for longer. It seems the PS3 version is the only one that can be unplayable. My experience with the 360 version was also fine. Lazy porting. Bethesda should have learned how to develop for PS3 by now. Lead develop for PS3 and things will be a lot better. Otherwise, you're putting the cart before the horse.
It is bad to say but its all about favouritism. Some of the glitches should never be present in games. I understand that games come with bugs especially big games like this but the major ones just shouldn't be present at all. Skyrim is a good game but it just feels like Bethesda haven't bothered checking/ testing the game. Gamers shouldn't vow support but nor should they go all out with hate. The need to make sure Bethesda actually check their games properly before release. Not many developers get nice remarks about buggy games and Bethesda is lucky here.
A game that big is gonna have bugs and patching them is a huge task... Give them a break.
Sorry but the biggest problem right now for PS3 players is the frame rate dips. That's not a bug or glitch, that's poor porting skills that Bethesda apparently has never gotten right. It's not like PS3 players don't buy their games either, they sell very well. So it's not a time spent on PS3 vs profit, it's laziness. Personally, I love their games, but I won't buy them new, I plan on getting Skyrim when the used prices drop.
I used to own fallout 3 for my ps3 but the bugs and frame rate drops killed my experience. Now that I have a 360 also I would only get their games for it.
If all they had to do was patch issues that are little more than a minor inconvenience I'd agree with you. The reason so many people are angry though (especially PS3 players) is because the issues are NOT minor inconveniences. The game is quite literally unplayable for many people. The anger people have over this is only intensified because the same problem (albeit to a lesser extent) existed with both Fallout 3 and NV. This has been an issue for a LONG time and the fact that it remains unaddressed to this day, across 3 major releases, is inexcusable.
I absolutely agree. You would think Bethesda would get their act together after the fallout mess but no. Releasing game after game after games riddled with bugs is inexcusable. Why not just release the game on the 360 (which has problems also)? NO, they want the money for all 3 platforms and the game performs poorly on all 3 platforms. Now I know why they didn't release any video on the ps3 or PC. Now, its not to say skyrim is a horrible game...when it plays correctly, but this is just madness. Ive said this many times, Bethesda is about 30min from my location as I reside in Virginia. Ive had the nerve to walk in their headquarters and slap every last one of them. Releasing a game with this many bugs show incompetence and should not be tolerated.
I haven't had any problems. I have noticed some really minor slowdown, but that's about it.
Luckily I did not have any game breaking bugs when I played through Skyrim. But I understand the frustration of those that did.
Same here. My experience has been 99% smooth sailing. If you got a problem, you could have a word with my Dremora... "THERE COULD BE NO OTHER END"
Not me. Its almost 2012. Releasing games with that many bugs is unacceptable. They even released a barley playable ps3 version knowing fully well it wouldn't work. If any other game released performed like this..... Well people sometimes are just to complacent. http://n4g.com/news/899656/...
This wasn't really gamebreaking but whilst moving house (a stressful experience even in Skyrim) I went to put books on a shelf and they disappeared. Gone forever. Strange. Proudspire Manor is nice though. Does anyone know if you can get married twice? I think i'm going to murder my wife.
not me stop playin 2 weeks ago. cant stand this game and will not get any more games from them anymore
trololol... you will rush to the store when you see how amazing the elder scrolls 6 will be
Bugs?..Glitches?....WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE CAN'T PLAY THE DAMN GAME,and we're not Over exaggerating.Before anyone disagrees,i'm not talking out of my ass,check Bethesda's forums and see how much complaining there is.Most people who reach 100+ hours of gameplay are unable to play the game because of lag. I still have some respect for Bethesda though because they make unimaginable games with passion unlike any other developer,You can put hundreds of hours into their games and still have much left to explore. But this time,their game is terribly hindered by the amount of lag in the game,and that flawed engine of theirs.I played Oblivion and Fallout 3 but didn't complain at all,Why? Because I understand that a game that big has to have some glitches here and there,But NOT when they're gamebreaking. The biggest problem is that they haven't responded to the community,and have released their game KNOWING that it's flawed (check IGN's article).
Then why is it that not everyone is experience these same issues? I'll pass 200 hours by tonight and I've only owned the game 18 days. I'm just about done with all the trophies. Why and I not seeing dragons flying backwards? The issue you speak of is something I was having before the patch. My game file is 12mb. After the patch install. It's not so bad now. Have you done the patch? I know most wont because they are to busy taking advantage of the boosting glitches found in the game. But then again, who's going to really come here and say they have done the patch. When they probably haven't for the reason I've stated. Either way, not everyone is having the same issues or the level of that some are speaking about.
MOST is what I said,if you are one of the lucky few then good for you.I hope it doesn't happen to you but I was one of the people that said about the complainers that "these people are just a minority"...that is until I have experienced it myself and faced the truth. Why would I complain then? Why would I write a wall of text? I am actually a big fan of the Elder scrolls games and-just like everyone else- am trying to grab Bethesda's attention in order to treat us the way we are supposed to be treated,we have made an investment just like anyone makes an investment in any other product,in order to support the company,and this is how we're treated? And in fact,the patch has made the game worse by fixing some things,while breaking loose a bunch of other glitches in the process.
Im having a blast with Skyrim on the PS3 However I will wait for comparisons before buying their next game on Sony's console. XperiaRay
Generally multiplays are better on 360/pc. For some reason most devs prefer those because their architecture is similar. Ps3 is different internally and that was Sonys fault. Forcing devs to develop a new way. Perhaps next time they will make it dev friendly. Just because 1 st party studios make their games look good does not mean Sony did it right. It means that's all they work with. They would have an extremely easy time porting to 360/pc because it's simple architecture and easy to develop for. Before u come in and start blabbing about how powerful ps3 is...it's not. It's newer than the 360 and weaker than a gaming pc. I own all 3. My Xbox is currently collecting dust and my ps3 is with my pc having sex with dark souls and my pc eats skyrim.
I could tolerate the game freezing every few hours. I could tolerate silly glitches like backwards flying dragons. But that's not what people are complaining about; they are angry because the longer you play, the more likely that the game will become unplayable, and that is simply unacceptable.
I haven't had any serious problems so far, apart from being addicted to it. It's the best game I've ever played, so as long as they keep making games like this I'll keep supporting them.
I'm with you, I've seen weird stuff happen, but mostly its been completely fine. There are annoyances (like when your companion follows you in to a room and stands in the door way AND WON'T LET YOU OUT) but that's expected. I'm about 40 hours in and so far everything's cool, touch wood. I feel really lucky I didn't opt for the PS3 version cos I very nearly did, sucks for everyone who has had major problems, no matter the platform. But these things happen in games, they always have. Only thing to do is wait and hope it gets fixed. Play something else. Luckily I have work/fiancee/friends which means I can't spend my entire life playing Skyrim. Although I would sincerely love to.
The companion in the doorway thing is REALLY annoying. I think it is more of a design flaw than a bug though. I also hate how they don't always wait when you tell them to.
Argh, after writing the above yesterday, I sat down for a little pre-work dungeoneering this morning and what do I see? Dragons flying backwards at 2fps. Nuts.
I own the ps3 version,was getting the odd glitch and bit of lag here and their plus a few freezes then for a while it went ok.But as from today it crashes at the exact same place (windhelm) I defeat the dragon absorb his soul then it crashes no getting out of this one.Tried deleting a few auto saves but no joy its taking the piss now don't get me wrong I don't get a raging hardon over minor glitches but after multiple hard resets its getting on my bitchtits.Bethesda you knew all along about these problems sending pc/360 copys to reviewers you wouldn't of dared send ps3 copys because of the obvious its a joke ps3 owners ought to be compensated in some way.
Nobody overlooked Alpha Protocol's glitches. Why? Because it wasn't an established franchise! Hell, it didn't have half as bad or as many of the glitches that Skyrim does. This is what favoritism does, people.
i still dont get the hate for alpha protcol i LOVED the game, its in my top 15 favorite for this gen.
Agreed. It was a great title that got overlooked and it really should get another chance. Maybe next time they won't cut out half a year's dev time!
If it was like F:NV where it would look like a slide show then that is unacceptable.
I played last night & I will play tonight & the next night & so on. Im playing the 360 versions & have a 50 hour game so far.I love bethesda & understand & except there are going to be issues. But serisouly i love this damn game!
Vow? I didn't see anyone making any vows. eg: "From this day forth, I, Mordecai, player of Skrim, vow my unyielding support to thee, oh lord Bethesda! Should I betray thee of this promise, may my flesh be stripped from my bones and my soul offer'd to Oblivion to rend! And I guess some bad stuff should happen to my wang too." Them's some vows.
It's funny how many jump on this bug bandwagon. Then player's come along like myself to say. I've owned the game now 18 days. In that time, I've clock 177 hours. Done well over 245 missions. I have like 4 trophies left for the plat. So has the game been unplayable? Broken? Of course not. The lag frame rate issue was there for sure. My save file is 12mb and before the patch. It was much harder to play. But the issue came about only after playing the game some 4 to 5 hours straight. That and the issue for myself was only in towns with many other people walking around. In the end, this has been a very wonderful game. I'm so looking forward to the next one. As we all know, they will continue to work on making things better with each game. Because as we all know. These games are a 100 times more complex and lengthy compare to other typical video games. I never saw any dragon's flying backwards or things like that at all. So it seems these events are random.
If a game is so good that I can look past its faults, then it's a game I love. It's kinda like people, the people you truly love are the ones you know their faults but still continue to love them because they are just that good.
with that being said; i love bethesda's games
Im maybe 60 hrs in and have had bad frameate issues and some wacky glitches but restartig the game does seem to fix it for a few hours. It seems worst near windhelm and outside the city where you get arrested and got to the hooskow. Its bad at points but after restarting (a pain yes) its fine. Imo the game is so epic i can overlook this stuff as long as they at least keep trying to make it better. I just got f3 goty on ps3, will get nv goty for ps3 and will consider future bethesda games on ps3. The games so massive its impossible to make it perfect and it plays perfect most of the time so i say cut them some slack and enjoy the game on whatever you can play it on.
*reads title* Nope. Im a gamer, not a "bitch" for Bethesda to slap around. Im dissapointed. Since Fallout 3 Bethesda have treated ps3 gamers like crap. Frankly, Im sick of it.
You guys know what? You would be more pissed off if Bethesda knew about the glitches and didnt release the ps3 version.
you think they never new about the bugs? lmao....
they knew about them. they have a QA department, they would have noticed. it's likely that the devs either didn't see it as a problem or they refused/couldn't figure out how to fix the problem.
The thing that I find most amazing is that people actually expected Skyrim to be bug free on release. Come on people, Bethesda games are known for their buggy releases. If you knew this about Bethesda and yet you still picked up their game on Day 1, and now your are complaining doesn't that make you kinda silly? When I picked up Skyrim I was 100% certain the game would have issues. However after reading the reviews I knew even with the bugs the game was worth it. I made an educated decision, and so when I run into a glitch - which has only happened since I installed that bugger of a patch - I know I only have myself to blame. I grumble a little, and I move on. I hope that the bugs will be worked out soon. The one thing I do have issue with is the waiting period from the time Bethesda finishes the patch to when consoles actually roll it out, waiting sucks. ; )
Agreed about the majority of the bugs. The frame rate issue on PS3 has existed since Fallout 3 and NV (and still exists to this day in both of those titles - albeit to a lesser extent than is being experienced in Skyrim). It really should have been addressed by now. I don't think it's unreasonable for people to be pissed that this is the third game in a row with this major issue. Especially when Bethesda has a long history of not fixing this particular bug.
You make a good point about people having a right to be pissed, I just wish they wouldn't act childish about it, like the comment below calling Bethesda shitty.
yet again shitty bethesda get a free ride in the game industry for the garbage they put out by retarded gamers and bullshit review sites, if any other game come out with this ammount bugs it would be ripped to high heaven and graded low for it.....
I agree didn't buy this game and now i don't plan to since i'm a ps3 player.
Really don't get why everyone is up in arms...They've been releasing updates and are still working on more. The game is massive and is bound to have glitches. I've installed it to my hard drive and haven't encountered too many.
Hmm ... Perhaps I should wait until the PS3 version's bugs have been ironed out. I was thinking of picking up Skyrim, but I may wait a little longer.
GOTY=GLITCH of the year
I still strongly support Bethesda. (Although I do play all their games on Xbox360) Many of their released end up being very problematic, but their still so good. You have to accept that they are doing open-world, which brings a infinite potential for bugs. I had a huge fallout with Bethesda after New Vegas, cause I had unbelievable amount of quest-breaking glitches. (so many that I can still list, that anyone would sware I'm read off a bug/glitches list)
If you're a PS360 owner, get Skyrim on 360. If you're a ps3 only gamer, dont get it!
Bethesda is like my favorite stripper, awesome dancer but then she took an arrow to the knee.
What Bethesda did is just grimey. They knowingly released Skyrim in the state that it's in and didn't say a god damn thing until they got our money. I mean, it's fucking obvious they knew it had issues. I even read somewhere that a reviewer asked for a PS3 version of the game and Bethesda sent them a 360 version instead. Ridiculous. How can anybody who criticizes companies like Capcom and EA give these guys a free pass?
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