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Submitted by shenglongg 1000d ago | opinion piece

Nintendo Wii U Specs Vs Xbox 360: Does It Really Matter?

Pinoytutorial: It seems like a rumor’s come up about Wii U's hardware specifications scheduled for release in March 2012. Question is, does it really matter if its specs are only at par with Xbox 360? We're here to analyze the situation. (Wii U, Xbox 360)

Shok  +   1000d ago
Whoa whoa whoa, who ever said the specs were on-par with the 360? It's misinformed people like this that cause other people (mostly Nintendo haters) to believe this delusion.

All that's been RUMORED is that the Wii U will have similar ARCHITECTURE to the 360, that's not saying it's just as strong.
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jony_dols  +   1000d ago
I don't hate Nintendo, and the Wii U will undoubtedly be more powerful than the 360 & even the PS3.

But I don't see why in 2012, Nintendo are releasing hardware that will be slightly more powerful than a console that was released in 2005.

The next-gen Xbox & the PS4 are on the horizon, and they will more than likely dwarf the power of the Wii U. Nintendo aren't future proofing their hardware, & that could severely effect sales & even hinder dev's in the long run.

The Dreamcast faced similar problems, when SEGA released it back in 1998, & it eventually bankrupted them.
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Jocosta  +   1000d ago
lol, "even" the Ps3.
jony_dols  +   1000d ago
This article is a comparing the the power of the Wii U & the 360. I said 'even' because the PS3 it isn't even aforementioned in the headlining.

The PS3 was originally built to be marginally more 'future-proof' than the 360 (mainly due to the inclusion of a Blu ray drive & inbuilt HDD) whilst the 360's RAM architecture has given the 360 a slight edge in many ways. Either way though, both of them are starting to show their age.
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Shackdaddy836  +   1000d ago
Hardware specs haven't been released yet. You're basing your info on very poorly thought out rumors.
Khordchange  +   1000d ago
dreamcast faced similar problems? What? it was pretty damn close to the ps2. IT had problems because no gave a s*** about SEga and sonic anymore. And Are you forgetting about idk, the wii?
dark-hollow  +   1000d ago
PEOPLE PEOPLE!
The wii u spec till now ARE NOT KNOWN
STFU till we know the full hardware then start hating/loving it.

Geez!
And dont say bu bu wii was weakest so the wii u would be too.
This is the FIRST time nintendo release a console behind the curve.
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nondecaf  +   1000d ago
People predicted the ps vita and got it right so I assume that this not far of.
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Skip_Bayless  +   999d ago
I think PS3 processor might very well be stronger which would put WiiU in a worded scenario than the Wii in a technical standpoint. The Wii was atleast stronger than the Gamecube, Xbox, and PS2. The argument that graphics are "good enough" is not valid. The power issue is huge and is the sole reason why big triple A multiplatform games are never made for the Wii and if they do it's a shitty port.
BitbyDeath  +   999d ago
"But I don't see why in 2012, Nintendo are releasing hardware that will be slightly more powerful than a console that was released in 2005."

Because Nintendo like to make a profit on all hardware sold. If they went for something too new it'd cost far too much to make a profit on.
darthv72  +   999d ago
from my perspective...
the wii-u could be the equivalent to the supergrafx in relation to the previous system. I would still buy it. I just like gaming to much to deny myself that pleasure.

Anyone that does not know, the supergrafx was a marginal upgrade to the turbografx/pcengine.
Frankfurt  +   1000d ago
Cliffy B himself says it's barely half a step over a 360. Deal with it.
ozstar  +   1000d ago
Cliffy B also says 8 out of 10 Reviewers for GOW3 are haters.

He also says his 3 favorite horror films include Paranormal Activity.

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_Aarix_  +   999d ago
@ozstar

That's cute and all, that's of course replying that he was being sarcastic. Do you realy think a famous lead designer for a top notch quality AAA game is really "upset". LOLOLOL!
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ninjahunter  +   999d ago
The architectures virtually the same, but from rumors its got a considerable buff over the 360.
Like nintendo said about a 50% improvement sounds about right if you know hardware.
hellvaguy  +   999d ago
@Shok

Speaking of misinformed people, you didnt even read the article at all did u? It doesnt say anywhere that the the specs will be on-par with 360. The author said it wouldnt even matter IF the specs were the same as the 360. So you can loosen up your fanboy panties just a wii bit.
Shok  +   999d ago
Did you read the excerp right under the title of the headline?

"Question is, does it really matter if its specs are only at par with Xbox 360?"

That's what I was responding to. and I never said the author of the article said it was just on par.

Good day to you sir.
SilentNegotiator  +   999d ago
"Whoa whoa whoa, who ever said the specs were on-par with the 360?"

No one. The author says "rumor" straight out the gate. He doesn't even remotely suggest that it is a fact. So slow down your Nintendo fan victim train with your "Nintendo haterz!!" and such, for a second.
DJMarty  +   1000d ago
Someone clearly doesn't know ther tech shit.

Cell CPU is based off PowerPC 6 as is 360 3 core CPU.

Wii U CPU Still based off PowerPC just it's uses version 7 rather than 6.
mirumu  +   1000d ago
The 360's Xenon and PS3's Cell don't really compare directly to a traditional POWER CPU, although it's true that the POWER 6 is probably the closest to them based on feature set. That said both Cell and Xenon are limited to in-order code execution for start which means the performance really isn't even going to be comparable. The console CPUs are designed to be cheap to make.

Regarding the Wii U, I have no idea what they're going to do although I have serious doubts Nintendo would want a POWER 7 derivative. POWER 7 has an 8-core architecture, and each core can have up to 4 threads running at the same time. It's all about parallel computing. I'd say that makes it less than ideal for a games console and it certainly make development and debugging harder.

If I was to speculate I think Nintendo would prefer a fast single or dual core. Perhaps something closer to a real POWER 6 than either Xenon or Cell. 64-bit and with modern features like VMX. It would still need to be cut down quite a bit though to lower the price and power usage as, for example, a POWER 6 is made of around 9-times as many transistors as Xenon.
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ninjahunter  +   999d ago
If rumors are true, it will probably be a quad core Power7 with their 4 threads per core. But multi threading is pretty useless for gaming.
(thats why i5 and i7 perform the same in 90% of games)

A gimped power7 would still be great for the price/power efficiency though.

IDK, Just some thoughts, you seems to know alot more than me about this though haha.
cochise313  +   1000d ago
wii u shouldn't be compaired to 6 year old tech. try compairing to ps3 or the next xbox when those specs are revealed.
sulaymanqazi  +   1000d ago
hmmm. this reminds me of the dreamcast and PS2. Nintendo, please dont f**k up.
Khordchange  +   1000d ago
um no it doesn't, none of you were around in that era and that is a terrible comparison
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hellvaguy  +   999d ago
@compostiontheory

"none of you were around in that era"

Im fairly sure I was around and in college during this era and my birth certificate does remind me i was born in 1977.
_Aarix_  +   999d ago
The Ps3 isnt really that much more powerful compared to the 360. Especially not enough to say "compare the wii u to it and not the 360".
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Pikajew  +   1000d ago
All the Nintendo haters believe this because it has bad specs and want the WiiU to be the weakest console next gen
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sulaymanqazi  +   1000d ago
it will. and it took you over 5 years to realize that sir.
metsgaming  +   1000d ago
if the wiiu wasnt the weakest console it would have to be the most expensive because nintendo wont sell it at a lose and that tablet controller doesnt look cheap. Thus it wont happen it will be the weakest by far. No way they can get their casual audience when its expensive.
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richierich  +   1000d ago
It does matter if it costs more
alb1899  +   1000d ago
yes, it matters to me i won't buy any console that wont overcome the actuals two or 3 times.
hellvaguy  +   999d ago
@alb1899

I have no idea what you just wrote, but then again I only speak english and not pig latin or any of these other ancient languages of long ago.
alb1899  +   998d ago
Will you try to write in spanish......or learn another language besides yours maybe not and i understand that.............small brain and big head. ;)
DA_SHREDDER  +   1000d ago
The WiiU is rumored to have a 3 ghz quad core processor, and at least 1 gig of RAM which is more than next gen even needs, we don't need 300 dollar gpus. An Nvidia 9800 GTX is good enough to run any game on at least medium settings. My tv only does 1080p, and honestly 720p games are enough. Look at Uncharted and Killzone 3. All 720p games, asking for better graphics would be asking for games to look like real life. I really don't need all that, and Nintendo sales show that the majority feels the same way.

Just give me in game web browser and cross game video chat with games that are easier to make so i don't have to wait 5 years for the next gta, and better graphics for games like MAG. I'm sitting here waiting for these games and systems, so I can hand down my kids my current ps3, my son already has one, and I don't wanna get a wii cause then I might as well just buy another ps3 but used. Dude, Sony hurry the heck up. The WiiU is never gonna replace my ps3 no matter how sick it is, Sony has the best hardcore devs in the industry, period.
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mirumu  +   1000d ago
Why do you want a Nvidia 9800 GTX in your console? Anything modern from either ATI or Nvidia could achieve the same level of graphical quality, but would cost less, use less power and run cooler.
ZombieStalker  +   1000d ago
Hardware specs mean nothing! It is all about the games. The console must support games that are FUN, have excellent controls and good graphics. Prelaunch games are notorious for being mediocre and the true assessment for a console really come months after launch.

I will wait unit after the prelaunch release before I pass judgement on the Wii U. Nintendo has a specific market for gamers and I think the Wii U won't differ much from the older Wii.
jthamind  +   1000d ago
let's go ahead and assume Wii U's specs will be roughly as powerful as a 360. if that's the case, then it would undoubtedly be the weakest of the three consoles next gen, as we all know the Nextbox and PS4 will have far superior hardware.

now, as far as sales go, the Wii flat out owned this generation, and it was for a few simple reasons. first, it was a fad. i'm not going to sit here and say that all the sales are from soccer moms or grandparents looking to exercise, but yes, a lot of the people who bought a Wii were not only non-hardcore gamers, but they weren't gamers period. second, it wasn't an intimidating console. meaning you didn't have to feel like you were taking a huge step into the world of gaming, like you would with the more powerful PS3 and 360. third, it was cute. aww, the Wiiiii, etc. and last, it was cheap.

now, here's where the relevant question comes in...can the Wii U sell the most next gen based on those factors again? can it be an inexpensive, cute, non-intimidating fad AGAIN and be successful? i'm not too sure about that. i'm guessing a lot of those non-gamers who bought them as impulse buys won't be so impulsive next time around. that's not to say that the Wii U is going to fail, i just think that they won't be able to dominate the home console market next gen off the same qualities they had this gen. it will still do well, sure, but i'm doubtful that it will end next generation at #1.
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rexbolt  +   1000d ago
will sold well becouse ir bordenand changed the way games were played u think the kincet or ps would be out if wii wasent? nope nintendo had something new something diffrent and it had its own games ps3 and 360 share 90% of the games they share 20% wit the wii you see the diff
bergoo  +   999d ago
look how cute your avatar is.
josephayal  +   1000d ago
Dam the WII U is powerful
pucpop  +   1000d ago
Wii u = more Mario + Zelda poop. no thanks. I am happy with PS3
ozstar  +   1000d ago
I don't see the problem of 1080p capability with old technology, thats still profitable for the company making it.

The fact is you can't have it one way (cheaper launch price and cheaper 1 or 2 years after release), yet complain about cheap components. And regardless, Nintendo have basically never completely screwed up with internal components, and they've never had a 50% failure rate. Calm down.

Its STILL better than anything else now, and its STILL going to be comparable, and likely easy to port to from the Xbox 3 and PS4.

Need i remind you that Nintendo were basically the first company to provide RAM expansion in any console, and that was more than 10 years ago.

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BraveToaster  +   1000d ago
It does matter because my 1 year old computer has better specs than the Wii U.
Colonel_Dante  +   1000d ago
I would love to LOL @ a comparison video of Battlefield 3 next year wii u vs pc lol. Going to be quite funny when a gaming pc of 2011 still beats a brand new "next gen" console. Nintendo, have clearly gone mad. And assume that consumers are generally dumb.
ozstar  +   999d ago
Definition of madness = selling an unprofitable console for years, and then making another unprofitable console at a time when mobile phones are killing that market

The 3DS was a smart pricing decision (well now it is), and i firmly believe that you will see both MS and Sony copying Nintendo's strategy soon too, they simply cannot afford not to.

But please continue, you'll be buying a machine with barely any market share, and barely any games for it.
dcortz2027  +   999d ago
I wonder how much this thing will cost.. It doesn't sound cheap. Plus, why compare a next-gen console to a current 6 year old console with outdated technology. LOL!
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Colonel_Dante  +   999d ago
Considering, I bet the Wii U controller looks more expensive than a 3DS... Its going to be pricey.
MasterCornholio  +   999d ago
That controller could end up costing at least 80 euros. Im just making this assumption based off the fact that a DS3 or 360 controller costs around 60 here.

XperiaRay
jacksheen0000  +   999d ago
Now We all know that the Wii U is going to out perform the 360 in every way possible. So what all the Fuss for, no one knows the final specification of the Wii U; in time we will.

Now Thinking Logically, I think Nintendo better pack some punch under the Wii U Hood if they want to compete against the big dog(PS4/720). Having said that, I think it would be foolish of Nintendo to design their next GEN gaming console around a 8 years old technology(360/PS3).

Nuff said
LoneWolf019  +   999d ago
Only thing that matters is if that Zelda tech demo becomes a actual game that looks that good to make me go buy a Wii U for :D
gcolley  +   999d ago
nearly every person missed the point of the article. gotta love this site
MasterCornholio  +   999d ago
I just hope the WiiU isn't between gens like the dreamcast was. Most people are expecting this console to be a true next gen system and not another GameCube with motion controls slapped on. Granted that the Wii sold the most but it's hardware is horrible when compared to either the PS3 or the 360.

I trust that Nintendo will make the right decisions.

XperiaRay
Dravidian  +   999d ago
this may be sorta old but here
http://www.psxextreme.com/p...
NumOnePS3FanBoy  +   999d ago
jesus!! releasing it in march of next year would be crazy. I wonder how much they'll price this thing. For sure it will definitely be a bit more expensive than the Wii at launch. I am glad that nintendo is actually going to go out on a limb and release their console first. It would be a test to see if people are ready to purchase a new console and will have sony and microsoft keeping a close eye to see the results of nintendo's early console release, if it releases in march 2012, which I highly doubt. If the WiiU flops or is low on sales it will definitely be a price issue and hopefully it'll make the other big 2 rethink on their pricing. Mostly looking at sony here. Although i think this time around we are definitely not going to be seeing any console at an absurd $599.99 this time around. I hope.
NumOnePS3FanBoy  +   999d ago
So I give my hats off to thee, the big N, on starting the next console gen. It will determine if things will benefit the consumer.
matey  +   999d ago
just 4 the wiiu to stream HD resolution to 2 tablets and the TV is saying its megapowerful compared to 360 as that could only do 700p at the very most and thats just to the tv not extra screens plus Power7 is 40nm AND thats what the CPU is in wiiu so think a power7 4 cores at 3.6 ghz in finished model and tons of EDRAM about 96mb is my guess but if the 768mb/1024mb is true than you have a console that can make current PC look old.

Remember 1 Power7 core is more powerful than the ps3 as a whole so 4 cores and the watcon tech is tons of EDRAM so maybe it does have 768mb/1024mb of EDRAM i mean that makes it more powerful than rumoured 720 specs.
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gumgum99  +   999d ago
Not really,unless you're a nerd...

*runs*
Ihaa  +   999d ago
This is on par with the 360 and Ps3? Thats a joke, for one thing the CPU is faster than the Ps3 and 360 and has one more core than a 360. The ram is twice as much and even for video games, half a gig of ram is a lot to consume. The rumored graphics card is also around 3-4 times stronger than that of the ps3 and 360 and the ram listed here is also faster than the ram we have in our current generation consoles. Although the console isn't a high end PC, it can still output native 1080p resolution with high graphic settings while the 360 and Ps3 both can only natively output 720p resolution. Crysis 2 on consoles was a bit below 720p and low graphic settings so that just shows you the difference were seeing here in performance.
SugarSoSweet  +   994d ago
Yes it does matter because the Xbox 360 will be 6-7 years old when the Wii-U releases next year

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