3D has a hard sell ahead of it, as not only is the application to current generation games relatively new and unexplored, there's an obvious trade-off in quality as the Xbox and PS3 hardware cannot cope compared to PCs.
I thought the Killzone 3 3D was good... oh well...
yeah i thought killzone 3 beta 3d feature was good, my ps3 broke before killzone 3 final verison was released. but the 3d quality for it was very good.
msxbox-world doesn't. Go figure they would act like a loss of quality in resolution/textures/whatever is a surprise when turning on 3D, or a massive deal. Oh! But they're not biased because they put a 360 game on the list that falls near a SD resolution when you turn on 3D! /s "Whilst 3D and how it is implemented in games, and the reception it receives is very much subjective, there are some games which prove that 3D can be a decent addition to a game for those with 3D TV sets" - Sites like this and PlanetXbox360 always end with "It's great, but not worth trading up for! Seriously, don't trade in for this ps3 product (hint: ps3 offers more 3D...a lot more)! Please!"
Haha, Just realized the site's name xD That explains everything.
Indeed. I'm using the PlayStation 3D Display and have, so far, found Killzone 3's 3D to be one of the best (mind you, the only other title I've fully seen in 3D is Uncharted 3). While Uncharted 3's was beautiful, Killzone 3's was more powerful, making me feel like I was truly there (giving me some eye strain in the process, lol). All-in-all, I disagree with that one.
but the best for me is wipeout hd
Killzone 3 3D actually looks really bad. All the games on that list look like crap in 3D. The only 3D I've seen that isn't extremely low-res is Super Stardust HD, Wipeout HD and Crysis 1&2. Batman AC and Motor Storm look decent enough but most 3D on consoles looks so terrible. Still haven't checked out Uncharted 3D yet thought, I hear it's very good.
So far in my opinion, nothing equal the 3D of Resistance 3.
People like to slap 3-D on mediocre offerings and they expect the people to be fooled by it's lack of quality.
So Killzone is mediocre and lacks quality? I take it you never played the game and instead read pissy articles and sales charts to gage your opinion. Way to be gamer!
I admit I didn't like Killzone 2, but I haven't played the 3rd one and I don't have a 3-D television, but as a rule I usually avoid 3-D movies and games. It's just not my thing, the Killzone thing is simply my opinion but I found Killzone 2 to be boring and the characters pretty generic. The movements were also way to weighted for my likes, even with the sensitivity turned up. I didn't finish the game, but I got 8 or so maps into the game, the blur effect when you turn also tends to get annoying, actually giving me a headache. So ...yea....I thought Killzone 2 wasn't very well done and was mediocre for my tastes.
I played it Pixel_Enemy. It's a bad game. When someone makes a game where you don't even care about the characters and sometimes wish they would just die so you can hopefully play as someone more interesting, then you know it's a bad game. If you took a film like Predator, and you removed all the likable characters, the memorable lines, the memorable scenes, the interesting enemies, and added snow, you'd get something like Killzone 3.
Killzone blew me away. It remains one of my favorite series this gen. The story is mediocre but come on, how many games have a truly decent story? It's about the gameplay and killzone looks incredible and plays great. Funny how people criticise the story for one game then praise another which is equally mediocre. Killzone is not a bad game, one may not like it and that's fine since preference is subjective, however its quality as a game is not.
The game is weighted for a reason. It helps set it apart from the more arcade-style shooters like CoD and Halo (not knocking them at all, mind you). Killzone 2 is my favorite shooter this generation, due in large part to the weight of the guns, a sense of stark realism, and the chaos that massive battles gave rise to. @kaveti So many people get this one wrong. The main character of the Killzone games are on the covers. They are, without a doubt, the coolest, most bad ass antagonists in any FPS I've played or even heard of. Think about it: what other games exclusively have the antagonists on the cover art?
It all depends on the 3-D tv set you buy. I got a 2010 model, and the news ones blow mine out the water. Even the newer passive glasses are better than my active glasses. Don't get me wrong, it depends on how good the 3-D software is too, but don't get it twisted, 3D is sick if you have the right hardware and software.
I have tried most console 3D games, most of the high profile titles on PS3 and 360 and my opinion is that they are pretty poor....In most cases the performance and resolution hit is just nasty and feels and looks like you are playing an SD game with 3D, which defeats the point of having a HD consoles IMO. GT5 as a racer suffers horribly with framerates crushed down to sub 30 FPS and responsiveness ruined. The 3D effect is not particularly good either on stuff like GT5 or KZ3, and their image quality is so severely compromised that i don't enjoy them as much as just 2D in HD. It doesn't add anything, it just takes the present generation visuals away from them. Your eyes are more drawn to visuals flaws, it noticeably exposes weak graphical areas. I have a reason for this viewpoint though: I use Nvidia 3D vision on a good PC on a latest generation 3D monitor. This instantly makes it very very clear how much we need a new generation to actually make 3D work properly on consoles. Indeed having all the bells and whistles, the full resolution, the full framerate in 3D on a PC is frankly stunning. No compromise. It is mind blowing, the clarity and depth that 3D can add to games when you have the right kit and the performance. Batman, Bioshock, Just cause 2, Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Fallout etc etc all phenomenal on a 3D ready PC. Even stuff you might not have imagined- like RTS isometric type games, CnC, Starcraft 2, Total war and the like make your jaw drop, because it feels like you are looking down at this brilliant detailed little moving diorama. Of course this is not cheap. But it is the 3D performance everyone should experience. Those that have not used 3D on a PC need to see it incorporated into a next generation of consoles. This will allow a wider audience to see what 3D should really be about in games.
What TV are you playing on?!? Killzone 3 still looks gorgeous in 3D.
Playing GT5 on the new Sony 24" monitor and it's impressed me the most after Uncharted 3. Not sure why you think it sucks. You just have to adjust the sliders to comfortable levels. A quick google showed me some people's sweet spots and I took it from there.
Killzone 3 is again not fantastic in 3D. The game is cut back texture/geometry wise, resolution wise and the framerate and response is just rough. Its not just that and GT5 though. Its any console game i played in 3D which is most of them. Nearly all of them 360 and Ps3 get cut back a lot. Why does GT5 suck in 3D? Simple, the backgrounds and some alphas in GT5 in 3D are not correctly adjusted for 3D. Secondly the game takes a resolution hit, in 2D you can get 1280 x 1080. In 3D you are limited to 1280 x 720 effective with only QAA, which is MSAA in 2D. Thirdly and most crippling is the major league performance hit the game takes. The framerate is at least halved, often more so, and screen tearing which is present in 2D mode is even more apparent in 3D mode. Performance is just ripped up in 3D mode, its not nice when you are used to a lovely slick 60FPS experience in a racer. Finally as i said, i have access to a quality PC and top end 3D games. It sounds like you don't and you have this little monitor for PS3 3D. Thus you don't really know what 3D games should and could and do look like with no visual compromises. I do. If you have never used it regularly on a powerful PC and lots of other platforms then you can't really criticise my comment effectively, not someone who has greater experience. You talk about sweet spot for depth and GT5 doesn't even have that much depth. With Nvidia 3D vision you can adjust depth on the fly, and the level you can comfortably achieve is much much higher than any console 3D game partly down to less eye strain from higher resolutions and refresh rates possible. When you have experienced 3D like i have you will no doubt, know exactly what i refer to. Come back then and tell everyone. Ahhh i feel sorry for everyone who plays 3D on console not knowing what it really is supposed to look like when the games aren't heavily compromised to achieve it. It as if you are playing on a black and white SDTV and you say its good because you just don't know any better. You will have a nice surprise then if they sort out next gen or get a good PC- full colour baby!
Yeah I am going to have to agree with you. I own one of the newer 3D tv models and it looks amazing. I play Uncharted 3, Resistance 3, Killzone 3, Gran Tourismo, Batman, Crysis and they all look good to me in 3D. Its just another option to play and the more options the better. And you have to have the right equipment as well.
I have a 51" Samsung PN51D7000 (2011 3D Plasma) and can confirm that every game on that list is extremely low res and/or has a significant hit in performance. I'll agree that Crysis looks excellent in 3D and Batman and GT5 look decent, most games look terrible, at least on consoles. I have Uncharted 3 but haven't played it in 3D yet, I'll check it out.
GT5 is amazing in 3D as the sliders let you customize it to your liking. Maxing everything out gives you some ghosting but everything pops out of the screen more than any other 3D game I've seen. It's literally like racing toy cars around a race track, you feel like you can touch the cars on the car select screens as well. I wouldn't call Crysis excellent in 3D though. I have them both on PS3 and they're not even as good as Killzone or Resistance 3 for 3D effects (sparks, debris, shrapnel, dust/water) and have the same problems the 2D mode has such as frame drops, pop-in and enemies with no physics. Once they're down, you can't mess with them anymore. Waste of 3D as it breaks the immersion. The bullet trail lines perk looks weak as well, KZ3's 3D bullets coming at you are better implemented imo. Batman AC looks just as much 2D as 3D at times in 3D mode. Looks more like those viewfinders we used to play with as kids. Uncharted 3 blows it away. Typical article from MSXBoxworld overall. There are plenty worse multiplats with 3D patches, no reason for KZ3 and R3 to be on this list. They spend most of their time talking about res' drops which lets face it, affect every 3D game. The actual 3D *implementation* in R3 though is quite well done, you can even look down enemies' mouths. No reason it should be on this list while Batman AC's relatively weak implementation and Crysis 1's oddball top/bottom format aren't. Saying "if only the source material had a bit more shine" is a bit of a backhanded dig by Richard Cram as it doesn't speak to the 3D whatsoever. He doesn't back up his brief bullet points with enough facts. Sliders help alleviate ghosting in most cases.
the only one of those ive played in 3d was gears, but the 3d on that was like the adverts fo it in cinemas (actually there) and not as crappy as youd see in a film
3D in general stinks.
You don't have a 3D tv. You should try it.
I think mostly children are impressed by 3D because they're not certain if the effect is real or not. 3D is a gimmick for me. I've tried it multiple times at demo kiosks at stores. Other people around me are impressed when the golfers club seems to swing out of the set. I'm not impressed.
Because children are the ones buying and playing all these games in 3D, after having bought expensive 3D TVs...
Children pester their parents into buying stupid things. Is this concept unheard of, Hicken, or are you just being dense on purpose?
3D when done brilliant is just that, brilliant. When its a cheap addition its horrible
So the movies Avatar and How to Train Your Dragon. Agreed. those were brilliant 3d movies. I also agree that everything done since then has been rubbish.
Well I thought Resistance 3 and Killzone 3s 3D was alright, why would anyone think that EDIT: Oh wait it's a Xbox 360 website...never mind
Somebody should have told them Gears of War 3 is xbox exclusive if we are to follow your conspiracy logic
They're downplaying a tech that a certain other console has implemented well and has a lot of games for, while it was shoe-horned into their older HDMI tech and is supported a lot less. GeOW3 drops to almost a SD resolution to be in 3D. They tossed in another example for the tech they're trying to downplay as being "decent" at best. They're tossing 3D under the bus, not GeOW3.
Why is it when you point out something which is so obvious it's a "conspiracy", face it when it's Sony people exagerate the negative points all the time, when really all they've done this year towards gamers is give and give. Besides the 360 dosen't even give a crap about 3D not as much as Sony who have even marketed games with the 3D in mind. Remember Microsoft said 3D was just a fad....then all of a sudden since it's working out for Sony they jump on the 3D train aswell
3d on superstardust is told to be very impressive
I picked up a 3D TV on Black Friday and yeah, Superstardust is Awesome in 3D, especially whenyou die. Also tried Uncharted 3 and God of War Origins.Both are great, but Stardust really stuck out for me so far.
apparently it's also amazing on the ICO Collecton.
Yeah, ICO is very nice in 3D. Haven't played SotC yet.
Just bought a 3D Visio LED on Black Friday. Best 3D: MLB 11 The Show, Resistance 3, Super Stardust HD, Motorstorm Apocalypse, Motorstorm PR, Sonic Generations, Wipeout HD, Tumble, Gran Turismo 5, Ico/SotC Most others are pretty good. KZ3 isn't bad, but it doesn't pop like the rest. Enslaved requires a DLC purchase, so I haven't tried it yet.
is really bad hurt my eyes. probably the worst ive seen
Guys, this article is written by an Xbox fansite. Its no surprise they're hating on Killzone and Resistance 3.
Haha, yeah. Have they even seen games in 3D? :P (yes, I know) Also, constant camera changes in tennis? But I have heard that KZ3 looks better without 3D. I've never seen it with though.
i hate kz3. 3d can not save it.it will never be as good as kz2
3D is not about "saving" anything. its just another viewing option which only rich people can experience.
Yea it's not like they're including Xbox games in that list... Oh wait...
quality article posted by same same person that just posted a 'why dying is bad' article. Funny funny shit, especially looking at the website. @FourGees - I'm the furthest thing from rich, yet I have a 3D TV, so I don't know where that comment came from.
msxbox world has something negative about ps3 games......................... .. lol
So an Xbox site disses PS3 exclusives that actually have good 3D yet ignores tacked on multiplat 3D like Thor, Capt America, Green Lantern, Crysis, Black Ops or even Halo Anniversary? I'm shocked! Actually no not really. Once a troll site...
Tennis in 3D on sky or bbc is pretty amazing, same with most sport except the cricket which is pretty terrible in 3D (& 2D) Wipeout HD has been the best game I've played in 3D. Btw seen a few comments saying that Sony are only pushing 3D on playstation because Xbox don't have it.. Mm it would look abit stupid if Sony pushed 3D on their movie studios, blu rays, 3D blu ray players & televisions..& didn't push it on playstation Playstation isn't pushing 3D Sony are pushing it, playstation is apart of that company, if 3D fails on the playstation Sony would still push it
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