HG writes: "Naughty Dog should drop guns completely in their next game. They don’t do guns all that well, it is beginning to spoil my fun and they have a track record of making great games that focused on other things than guns"
So let me get this straight.....they mess up once and now they shouldn't do guns at all. Get real... Uncharted had great gunplay Uncharted 2 had amaing gunplay What the title really should read is "Why Naughty Dog should stick to what they already have instead of changing the already perfect things they have" They did exactly the same to the Subway beta, the Summer beta became nearly perfect after patch 3, most people can agree then the Subway beta came along and it's become a blindfire sprint fest.....still is to be honest.
They do gunplay fine I don't see why people are nitpicking Uncharted to death Do people really not want Uncharted 3 to have a chance at being GOTY. Your right about them starting from scratch, it wastes more time for them in the long run, they should just take what they've already done right and improve on it rather then change everything about it. The Summer beta was miles better the Subway beta aswell
theey nit pick it because its one of the best games of the year, far better than that yearly released garbage we all hear about
I can't understand it either at least for SP since I haven't played the MP. The gunplay for me was perfectly fine in SP and I had absolutely no issues with it whatsoever. However, I can't say the same for MP since I haven't touched that yet.
I cant speak for everyone but I despised Uncharted: DF's gun mechanics with a passion. Uncharted 2 made it better. Haven't gotten a chance to play the third one yet. Busy with Skyrim and am picking up a 3D tv next week. Will probably just wait till then.
I had problems with the gunplay in that game too but it wasn't the way the guns worked that got on my nerves. It was all the dodging animations making the targets difficult to hit after the first hit.
I have not played U3 yet but I played U1/2 and the shooting worked fine for me. I know they are some people having difficulties in U3 in terms of shooting but knowing the track record and the postive feed back U1/U2 had I'm sure some people are just over reacting. By they way ND is a top AAA developer so I'm sure those who are having problems will get a patch to fix it that's if a patch is not out alerday(I don't know since I don't have the game yet). This game cannot be getting so many 10 and 9 if the shooting was as bad as people online say it is.
I agree. ND should make EPIC Games or Gear Box do the gun game play for the next UC. If that not possible then dont give Drake a gun period - put him on a desserted island and in order to survive he has to make stuff with spare part and nature. Drake with a sling shot would be ace.
So let me get this straight.....some fans felt displease with the shooting mechanics and now they shouldn't do guns at all. Get real... (Fixed) I've been playing uncharted since the first one and didn't notice anything like that went back to the game after reading all the complains and again didn't notice any problem with it.
Jak & Daxter That is all.
What a lame post...
Why hookedgamers shouldn't write an article ever....
"Next game" doesn't necessarily mean "next Uncharted". Despite the aiming lag, U3 was still a great game, but I would definitely be down with Naughty Dog experimenting with a totally new IP - maybe one with fewer firefights and more exploration (or just more stealth! love me some sneaking...). The team has talent, and it would be exciting to see what new ideas they could come up with.
why hookedgamers are getting no hits from me, however desperately they are trying to do so... over 200 GOTY awards say "up yours" hookedgamers :)
You haven't read it, have you? :)
Don't need to, it's obviously shit :-) Why can't Uncharted have guns? If you don't like the series, don't play it. Uncharted may not be for you then.
Priestman is actually saying he loves Uncharted, just says that the game's strengths are not in guns. Saying that you don't need to read it is rather ignorant.
He doesn't want to read it because the title is clearly just to get hits for their lame site that does nothing but use these type of titles.
not really sure what all this nitpicking is about. If you wanna nitpick a game, then nitpick skyrim. Its a fantastic game, but nobody nitpicks about its glitches and weak combat system.
It's not telltale nitpicking if the problems are there...Uncharted 2 didn't have much as problems as Drake deception is having. And for skyrim its an RPG open world game which is bound to have glitches from the get go.
Unch3 definitely has shooting mechanic issues. And I'm not afraid to admit it. Aiming is off...combination of input lag & accuracy spread that's simply wrong. In unch2 I could iron scope (well...I mean no scoped sniper rifle), a dude across the map. It'd take 3-5 shots, but very doable. In Unch3 what ND had done I suspect...has given the accuracy hit box spread to the rate unlock weapons. This makes regular weapons garbage and only useful at close range. Hence the run n spray everyone is abusing. ND left noobs and low lvls no choice. High lvls have unlocked their rarer weapons and seem to enjoy better accuracy at range. I've tested this via pickups and it feels to be true. But by no means is it unch2 quality I. Terms of shooting. This has to do with ND increasing speed across all movement. So aiming for head shots is now pointless. They'll walk fast enough to dodge your ability to aim; and increment adjustments in your aim results in janky off target aiming. It's frustrating when you get owned and it feels like its not entirely your fault. That's the issue that wasn't present in unch2. It may be fixable but I doubt ND's ability to balance everything. I hope they can. (I'm not bitching unreasonably. I love the series and loved unch2 mp. )
The gunfights got better with Uncharted 2 (they were abysmal in the original) but they still weren't great. I don't know how they are in U3 but those who say U2 had top of the line shooting mechanics are delusional. Tons of enemies spawn in the same place, a few weapons lack punch, headshots feel awkward and somewhat random, and worst of all enemies are horrible bullet sponges. Each of them takes an excruciating amount of duck and shoot to kill. If you have that many enemy spawns in the same place, don't make them absorb that many bullets. It turns so many sequences into a grind, especially towards the end. After clearing the game, I decided to replay some stages with the "one shot kill" cheat enabled, and trust me it was amazing how much the flow of the levels was improved. Yes it was a cheat, it was not how the game was meant to be played. But hell,the pacing was much smoother and pleasant. Sure I'm not asking for one shot kills in the actual game, but a couple chest hits for most foes would be well enough given the amount they throw at you. Plenty of players have complained about the bullet sponges, but taking them out would probably cut the length of the game some more and force them to rethink the game's formula altogether. And with a 2-year dev cycle, this was not happening.
To be honest, I finished Uncharted 3 without realizing the gun problems.It was minor to me. The only part that gets me is when an enemy creeps up on me and I'm fighting hand-to-hand combat and 5 other enemies are shooting at me.
Maybe this is a round-about way of saying they want a new Crash Bandicoot.
They should make a new jak and daxter because ND cant make every thing in uncharted like laser guns,super power,crazy awesome moves etc... They can do whatever they want in jak and daxter
they should go back to crash Bandicoot I have played uncharted 3 and it is a fantastic game but don't we have enough shooters and the platform genre has disappeared since shooters overloaded the world
Its amazing that every PS3 exclusive must always stop doing something or end the series while other games use the exact same format every time and no one yells 'Make or do something different for the love of God' I never understand what is so wrong about the Uncharted shooting or fighting that anyone would say such a thing. Why, because every when you kill someone they don't scream and blood flows from their limbs like fountains? Because you don't stab people with knives or take a chainsaw and slice of people's heads? Because you don't break bones and knock teeth out of people's mouths? Because you don't show the bad guys limping because you shot them in the kneecap? Hasn't anyone ever watched Indiana Jones movies? Don't you realize the violence and gunplay are muted rather then being the main focus of the adventure? UC3 is not just a shooter, just like Jak 2 wasn't a just shooter.Its like saying Condemn's or Bioshock's shooting wasn't anything special.The main focus of the game wasn't to shoot things.If it was a game like all the military shooters where violence and killing was the main focus if the game I could understand why people would want the shooting to be perfect. But as it stands I really don't see anything wrong with it.
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