Does the Xbox 360 demographic lean more towards shooters compared to PS3 owners or does Skyrim prove otherwise?
Shooter fanatics first... and then everything else second. I dare not touch Skyrim as Oblivion demanded so much time, I hardly played anything else for a year.
How do we state that xbox gamers "are mindless shooter fanatics"? That is a generalization of illogical proportions. While shooters are exceptionally popular in today's culture all consoles see sales of varying genres. I think you might see higher numbers on xbox but that doesn't limit the amount of other genres sold and enjoyed by that audience. Shooters as a whole currently sell better and appeal to more of the install base then all other genres. The title of this is perfectly engineered to gain heat. Not only are xbox gamers fans of shooters, it is to the point of a raving mindless consumption. Please rename title to "zombie xbox gamers eat the COD flesh while still warm." Area man unimpressed with N4G discussion. Details at 10:15 right after sports.
The only reason people say Xbox players only play shooters is because of the XBL Activity that is released on a weekly bases. If Sony released a similar statistic, they would be pretty much the same minus the 360 exclusives like Halo and Gears.
It's just like saying that pc gamers are all Lonely, porn addicted, anti-social, nerdy virgins" LOL! not all of them are;-)
And PS3 gamers are hermaphrodite emos with spiked hair that cry all the time due to the JRPG's they play.
Jmac I think you'll find that PS3 gamers are car enthusiasts that like Nissans and lap times. GT5 being the best selling PS3 game including multiplatform. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
Another factor that people that generalize about these types of things fail to address is the fact that sales and XBL activity do not address every type of gamer. Much like sports games, CoD has created for itself a part of its audience that only buys one game a year at that is it. There are many people that play this exclusively and when you mix this number with the people that play it even casually results in a very large quotient. There are also the people not connected to Live. What are they playing? What about achievements? What games have the most achievements unlocked by the most amount of players? Achievements/trophies have provided another way in which we can study game play habits and it is utterly ignored. All in all, we can't just generalize about these things. It is poor journalism and, to some people, just insulting.
I have a 360 and whats funny one 2 out 30 games I have is shooters. I like variety in my game-playing ,gladly i'm not a "mindless shooter fanatic".
Hey! I got emotional while having my hair spiked up and playing FF7 only one time okay! Didn't think an n4g member would somehow find out about that?! How embarrassing....
Nope. Gran Turismo, Street Fighter, God of War, Forza, Ratchet & Clank, Madden, Tiger Woods Golf, Fifa, Little Big Planet, Alan Wake, Dragon Age, Batman, GTA, Red Dead, Final Fantasy, Uncharted, Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Castlevania, Mario, Zelda, Demons Souls, etc. etc. etc. All prove gamers are not mindless shooter fanatics. Don't write an article thats makes Skyrim any more than these other games. They are all excellent in their own way.
this guy is defining by the back door. asking if it proves their not suggests that proof was needed. you can see quite clearly just from the title that this is his own narrow minded view and he's trying to trade it as generally accepted. 'Does Skyrim suggest that not all 360 owners prefer FPS?' would have been a more neutral stance
Mass effect,dragon age orgins,(dragon age 2 is a epic fail),fallout,fable,bioshock 1 and lots of jrpg games proves otherwise. 360 had far more RPG's this gen than playstation and 360 games sell more.
So, with the exception of the first Mass Effect, everything else you mentioned is also available on PS3. And as for JRPGs, at LEAST a half dozen exclusives have dropped over the past two years on PS3, while there have been.... how many on 360? Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, and about three others (Operation Darkness comes to mind) would make things even, at best, so your argument is....?
@Hicken The rpg's that are multiplat sell way more on 360 so ps3 must be the ones playing shooters. @darkride66 I play a biotic in the mass effect games and i never have to fire a shot the biotic powers are far more powerful than the guns because biotics only get a crappy pistol in those games.
I think, in general, shooters are the most easily accessible franchise. You don't really have to consider yourself a gamer to get into a shooter. I think it's for that reason that shooters not only sell so well, but dominate the charts on Xbox Live. They aren't really better, just easier for most kinds of gamers to get into. I think a game like Skyrim showing up on the charts in spite of this says a lot about the fanbase it's cultivated and how much it appeals to a wide variety of gamers. It's really quite impressive.
Sell 8 milion, Forza 3 sells 5 Milions and Skyrim 1st Week is 2M on Xbox i dont see how you can say that. Sure Shooters are far more popular but thats not just on Xbox, its everywhere except on Pc ofc.
lololol fable 2 and 3 did not sell 8 million Forza sold no where near 5 million and skyrim on xbox was not 2 million. Where are you getting these numbers????? VGchartz LMAO.
he made those numbers up. Forza didn't even sell 300k
He may be wrong...but it doesn't change the fact that these are still enormously popular franchises on the console. You don't get to the third or fourth iteration of a title if it is not at all popular.
Fable 2 sold 4 million more than any ps3 rpg Fable 3 sold 3.37 forza 2 4.3 million forza 3 sold 5 million Bioshock 1 2.5 million Halo wars 2.11 million Oblivion sold 3.4 million Mass effect 2.39 million Mass effect 2/ 2.58 million Dragon age orgins 2.18 million PGR 4 2 million PGR3 1.35 million Even crap FF 13 sold 1.8 million on 360 And there are alot more im too lazy to look up. 360 gamers do buy RPG's and other types of games. Pyscho_Mantis you dont know what the hell you are talking about.
PS3 has the same amount of shooters in the top 20 as 360. 360 http://www.vgchartz.com/wor... PS3 http://www.vgchartz.com/wor... Action games like Assassins Creed and RPG's like Mass Effect, Oblivion, and Skyrim do better on the 360.
I'm not sure what list you were looking at but it looks like there are 6 shooters in the PS3 top 20 and 11 in the 360 top 20.
So... you wont count Uncharted as a shooter but you will count Gears as one? You need to go back to the PS3 list and start counting the games with guns. PS3 owners love their shooters as much as 360 owners, that's why CoD (a game you guys are supposed to hate) takes the tips spots. Stop being a hypocrite and don't lie to yourself.
"So... you wont count Uncharted as a shooter but you will count Gears as one?" Uncharted is more of an action/adventure than a shooter... Often there are levels where you don't even use a gun or see an enemy... can you say the same for Gears? Also Mass Effect is a shooter as well.
@bitby... Mass Effect is far more than a shooter. There are places in that game that, like your Uncharted, have levels utterly devoid of enemies and no shooting at all. ME is an RPG that has much mroe characterization, plot, and depth than any shooter will ever have. One thing I should add about Uncharted is that, even if there are some levels in SP campaign that have little to no shooting, the co-op and multiplayer portions all all guns-blazing affairs. So yes, there are parts of the game that can easily be categorized under straight shooter. Same goes for MGS 4's online portion.
People still like to cling to the old stigmas eh.
Erm, pretty sure that Xbox Live Arcade and the Indie games channel prove the point... even if it wasn't an insulting generalisation of an enormous and varied audience.
I'm not sure where they get that Xbox players are shooter fanatics. It is not like FPS don't sell well on all platforms. The xbox sales for indie titles are through the roof compared to the competition on other consoles as well. Does that mean that Xbox users are indie/small dev fanatics too? When it comes to sales of all types of (multiplatform) games the xbox almost always takes the sales crown. Are they all genre fanatics then?
Actually no. Most of the xboxers I know who are regular cod maniacs bought skyrim because they say, like gta, they can go and stab innocent people while laughing.
Not sure what you are getting at here, but just because your friends are a certain way does not mean that everyone else is. One group does not speak for all groups of a whole.
what a stereo type. kind of reminds me of the whole "nobody talks on psn" thing. while i agree most of what the 360 has is shooters (even its exclusive gears is a shooter) the 360 doesnt really do much to innovate like the ps3 does
No, but then again, I wouldn't have called Xbox gamers that to begin with. If were to ask is that particular fanbase more prone to buy/prefer shooters, I would say yes. Not that I see an issue though.
Bubbles for a reasonable response. PS3 "fanboy" that I may be labeled, I still don't think the 360 fanbase is THAT obsessed with shooters. Maybe just a little more than PS3 owners, but still.
Honestly, why do people give a crap about what people play?
im pretty sure COD eats up the charts on both consoles, just becuase it sells twice as many on 360 doesnt mean its still not the most popular ps3 game as well.......shooters are the most popular genre on either console.....and im pretty sure the only reason people may think differently about the ps3 is becuase it has more exclusive non fps games ( heavy rain, GOW, infamous, LBP, Ratchet, etc ) which means more opportunities to sell games that arent shooters. most of 360's quality exclusives are shooters, if/when it gets a chance to have a non shooter quality game, they often still sell pretty well on 360 ( looking at dragon age or skyrim for example )..... i think this is just another stereotypical generalization that has no actual concrete evidence, just like "omg xbox live is nothing but kids" blah blah blah, im sure ps3 has just as many 12 year olds......the upside to 360 is though, if you don't like hearing 12 year olds in your ear, party chat, problem solved. i for one could care less if my opponent is 12, we all start as gamers at some age, kudos to him if he beats me down....
i completely agree with what you said about the ps3 having more exclusive non fps games which means more opprunities to sell games that arent shooters. thats what i was trying to say with my post. only that i feel ps3 does more to innovate and not just have fps. i havent seen the 360 move form that spot
id also agree with you there, ms has tried a few times with crackdown, alan wake, too human, and banjo but they were all half *ssed efforts ( too human is actually one of my fav games and with more dev time and real level designers could easily have been a triple a title ). they should focus on getting more exclusives and trying to expand into other genres/markets other than fps and casual, they have really given up on that expansion in the last couple years.....
@Captain Qwark You think that Crackdown, Alan Wake and Too Human were half-assed efforts. I thought that they were major efforts. Wasn't Alan Wake was in develop for 4 or 5 years? I think the fact that Alan Wake on sold what it sold is evidence of the 360 users' preference. Alan Wake was good. It should have sold more.
considering how many people bought MW3 on X360... nope.
Yes tar every xbox user with the same brush. Ok there may be more useres of one certain demographic but xbox users will range from every kind of person, age, sex, nationality. Its pointless drivile trying to pigion hole people. Bollocks.
Bollocks indeed, good to know some folk are so ignorant, not that it bothers me; it's humorous at least.
people seem to forget that other type of titles have sold well on the 360....only fanboys believe all 360 owners only buy fps....
which is why titles like alan wake did *so* well...
you single out one game over the many other non fps games that have sold well on the console....but that is the typical bias scapegoat...
Man this webpage gets so many posts here
no. this game is hardly RPG enough to try to prove that. its still an action/rpg set them down for some good ole' morrowind
All it proves is that if you make a great game, people will play.
Not really, I mean everyone including PS3 owners knew the 360 was going to get the better version. So people with both consoles would get the better version, and all these PS3 version is lagging articles proove that.
It's pretty simple actually, Elder Scrolls came out on consoles for Xbox first so it has a larger fan base. Dark Souls is known as Demon Souls successor, and because it was a PS exclusive the Souls games have a larger fan base on PS.
Sure nuff! ..but I'm also pretty sure half of those people who bought skyrim on xbox are multi-console owners who want to download the DLC as soon as its released.
Dumb article is dumb.
Since when do you have to be mindless to enjoy shooters? As far as I'm concerned the PS3 crowd and the xbox crowd aren't that different. Most games sell well on both platforms now. It's not like the wii where you get one core game every year...
Look at the long list of games ive had to pick for my xbox this year Skyrim is a god send tbh.
Almost every multi platform game sales better on xbox....
Is this the new fad now,game sites talking bout either console to get hits,and we fight about it here to keep the flames going ,instead of doing there job,by informing us on games before we purchase it.?
The whole "Xbox 360 users are only interested in shooters" thing has been debunked time and time again. While it's true the Xbox 360 has the superior controller for shooters, other games sell well and are just as popular. I have as many people on Skyrim or Batman AC or even Assassins Creed Revelations as I do MW3. My friends list is full BTW, lots of people play things other then shooters. You can always tell the shooter folk though, cause they tend not to have many Achievements, mostly opting to play online only.
I'm sorry but the best 3 selling games on the ps3 on shooters. Ps3 owners have resistance, kill one, and uncharted while we have gears of war, halo and Alan wake ( Its not very centered as a shooter but uncharted is really either tbh). It's this generation not just Xbox.
What kind of Bullshit Article is this? MS-Xbox anninhilating their own Crowd for Hits on N4G, what a Joke.
I would have thought 360er's are playing Arkham City, Assassins Creed, Saints Row etc as well as the yearly shooters rather like PS3er's
Generalizing a community is stupid because there are always those who break the generalization. I'm a 360 only owner, and I prefer 2D sidescrollers to FPS's.
This sort of statement in the subject matter could be considered as a form of console-isum, a generic statement about Xbox owners, very close to a racist comment.
It's easy to see why the Xbox brand has been stereotyped as being about shooters. The original Xbox was touted by Microsoft as a big brute of a machine, all about the horse power in the engine, a way not only to distinguish themselves from 2 heavyweights, Sony and Nintendo but from their own boring PC image. Even though it launched with the superb Jet Set Radio Future (and moved in to the space vacated not long before by the arcade game style dominated Dreamcast) its marketing was sometimes crude. Nevertheless, it respected the age old tradition of trying to find a cute mascot for your console. It tried various platforming games like Voodoo Vince and, most memorably, Blinx, a good looking game by a Sega studio, Artoon, that was nevertheless greatly stilted by comparison to Jet Set Radio Future. But JSRF, great and ambitious but never hugely well selling, was never going to become a franchise. Rare released a few games, Grabbed by the ghoulies, OK but limited gameplay, and Conker: Live and reloaded, a rehash of the N64 game with a boringly forseeable Xbox 'macho' slant to its marketing (somewhat misleadingly as the single player game itself is said to be toned down from the original). The Xbox, for a while, mainly became the place where PC games, like Doom 3, got a console equivalent. It doesn't sound like a very compelling legacy, especially when even the PS2 managed to get versions of both Max Payne games. Anyway, what I want to say is that, for all their machismo and the way that the original Xbox became just a 'PC in a box', Microsoft managed, finally, with the Xbox360, to make a proper console. First of all they got their marketing right. They refined their brand image. They got a better launch line up, including 2 decent games from Rare, Kameo and Perfect Dark Zero (the latter remains a guilty pleasure for many who want a game that is as camp as a row of tents with its arcade shininess but the multiplayer is still regarded quite highly). They secured a better range of multiformat games. But, for me, one of the most important things is that the Playstation no longer became the brand where you could count on great niche titles being released. You now looked to the Xbox360 (on XBLA or just in the general line up) or Wii for those. They took the unusual step of heavily investing in an add on for the Xbox360. The PS3 had Bluray, now the Xbox360 had a controller free games system. But the most clever bit was- they weren't going to use this opportunity just to preach to the converted - to make the FPS game fans who already had an Xbox360 more happy. They used it to appeal to the Wii market- the young and older gamers who wanted innocent games but who might want to see them with better graphics than the Wii could manage and which skilled artists at studios like Rare could provide. One of the best rated Kinect games is Disneyland Adevntures, a faithful representation of the park. By comparison the Move looks like a forced afterthought with a half hearted range of games. The PS3 is just about as reliant on shooters in their best known games. Uncharted (by far the console's best asset), Killzone, even their platform game Ratchet and Clank uses shooting. True, it's got Little Big Planet and Heavy Rain but those games divide opinion enormously because the first game is too hard to get anything out of and the second is too much like a movie with quick time events. Amd when you see a game like Enslaved: Odyssey to the west, which looks like a game that the PS3 might have previously only been thought capable of, running just as well on the Xbox360 you realise that the Xbox360 is the new PS2 in terms of longevity and not just in shooter games.
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