VentureBeat's Sebastian Haley takes Nintendo to task for a poorly designed Zelda game.
HAAHAHHHAAHAHAHA! No seriously, that was funny. lol
I can't imagine the kind of hate this review is going to get.
Gamespot should have the same hate they gave this game 7.5/10
Gamespot HAVE the same hate
There's no way this game is more worse than Twilight Princess.
More worse? :D twilight princess had a BIG upside.It actually tried to evolve the Zelda franchise. This one, as the headline of the review says, shows that Nintendo refuses to evolve. Personally, I agree with many of the points made. I probably wouldn't have given such a low score though.
It's the best 3D Zelda game on a Nintendo console.
@Titanz I did. Did you? Even if it was the best 3D Zelda game on a Nintendo console (which is very debatable and opinion based), that wouldn't say much compared to the rest of the industry. I wouldn't give it over a 8.5, possibly a 8. Gotta review the game in itself, not the legacy of the zelda franchise like many are doing. There are quite a few games out there that objectively grind this game into the ground under every point of view (story, characters, gameplay, graphics, animation, controls...). So if you give this one a 10 just because it's a Zelda game (because let's be honest, this is the only reason why it's getting some 10s), what are you going to give to those? 15?
When you say Twilight Princess tried to evolve the series, in ways that Skyward Sword is not. Explain. Because I'm not seeing it lol
@Abriael So? Those games have nothing to do with Skyward Sword. And those games you mentioned being "better" are just your opinion, not fact.
You probably didn't like wind waker....
Twilight Princess tried to evolve the Zelda franchise? It absolutely did not. The whole game was purposely made to be like a more modern OoT. The only "new" thing was the Wolf...which didn't change much except for adding repetitive light shard collecting. It's obvious to me that you either didn't play Skyward Sword yet, or you haven't played enough of it to realize how much they have changed. It's nothing ground breaking, but it is a step in the right direction. This is coming from someone who has beaten both Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess. Regardless of how much you like either one, Skyward Sword does way more to try and change the series than Twilight Princess.
Uhhh... I'm pretty sure just about every review states that this is a Zelda game that is actually evolving the franchise, by adding perfect motion controls, a crafting system, deeper combat, etc., as well as having one of the best art directions in video game history. Twilight Princess in fact did NOT try to evolve anything of the Zelda franchise outside of it's graphics. The people wanted a more realistic, darker Zelda game, and while Nintendo delivered on parts of this, the overall game when asked by consumers was that it was generally disappointing. No one wanted a werewolf segment, and there honestly wasn't a single thing in the game that did anything remotely different from other Zelda games.
Apparently he's trying to outdo gamespots review. Here's my response - You gotta pay the troll toll.
If I want to get that boys hole?
It's boy's soul!!
This review sounds like he's trying to compare Skyward Sword to Assassin's Creed and Skyrim. He even mentions Skyrim's 50 perfect scores and how Nintendo hasn't learned anything from that... or something. Completely irrelevant.
You're taking that WAY out of context. The Skyrim comment was in response to Nintendo of American's president who stated that there has not been and will likely never be a game as good or reviewed as well as Skyward Sword based on eight perfect Metacritic scores (link in article).
YOu are ignorant. I read the whole interview with Reggie and he never said Skyward Sword was better. He said, he doesnt know if any gamein history can compare to SS. Meaning it is the only action adventure game to have 1:1 controls. And he said that he was looking forward to Skyrim. Read the interview and stop assuming
@Pikajew: putting it in hypotetical form is just a rather feeble way to try and hide the arrogant marketing smug. What he said is obvious, and rather unclassy.
only action adventure with 1:1 motion sensing control? Well, that is up to debate, and probably the most stupid comment ever
I read that interview. Reggie was referring to other Wii games.
Ugh, whoever this guy is he has a long career of troll blogging. I think LOZ fans can disregard this one. Not worth it. Don't feed the troll.
"wow, gamespots review got a lot of traffic for their website!" "i know, lets give it an even lower score, we'll get even more traffic!"
Sad, but true :(
Or maybe they didn't like the game, i know, i know shocking concept.
God it reminds me of that uncharted 3 review that got a 6.5, I mean you can have some points but it's not that bad. It's an 8 at worst. Thats just, trolling
Exactly. Most of the reviewers are at it, they spent so long throwing 10's at everything now they're just pulling a 180 and giving ridiculously low scores. It's not so much trolling, it's stupidity with a dash of ignorance.
We should start compiling reviews of reviewers, this guy gets 2.5/10 and Im being generous.
This happens to every great exclusive First Uncharted 3 and now this
dangit, accidentally clicked the link and gave the site a hit... wont do that one again lol based on what rwad on the first page, this guy is trying to get people to come to his site, but ill be the judge tomorrow when i get to play skyward sword for myself.
I couldn't even get to the part were he actually talks about the game 3 paragraphs in, due to the near vomit inducing BullShit. It is obvious he isn't reviewing the game off its own merits and that he wishes he were playing something else, so of course he isn't going to like it and rate it accordingly.
This website learned from GameSpot that if you give an excellent game a mediocre review score you will get tons of press...
A good read.
Maybe if you are mentally handicapped.
Judging by his blogs, this guy is one big whiner. Move along, everyone. There is nothing to see here.
Honestly it's just his opinion and an opinion shouldn't bother you unless you have doubts. CoD doesn't appeal to every1 so I guess Zelda doesn't either.
The terrible controls are enough to give this game that score.
why terrible? :O
I know Sebastian. He's not a troll. While I don't always agree with his opinion, that's all it is...an opinion. He loves games and is very critical of them. No need to turn Internet lynch mob over a game none of you have played yet.
Oh I played it. Got it off of pirate bay. Its good. Nothing like ocarina of time though
I have been a lifelong Zelda fan picking up the very first entry in the series back when I was in 5th grade. For myself Ocarina was the pinnacle of Zelda greatness. Zelda is tired, it's getting old and we all know what to expect. At this point you are either ready to apologize for a mediocre game or you are willing to say enough is enough. The only way Nintendo is going to get back to basics is if people stop buying their crap. Much like George Lucas with Star Wars.
i don't believe you. all i see is a stealth troll posing as a zelda fan. Know what to expect ? they changed a lot of mecanics ! Go play the game ad come back afterwards
They haven't played the game or even read a preview to see how different this game is from other Zelda's. You can upgrade your shield with items you find in the game, which Zelda game can you do that? I just finished the first dungeon and it is the best 3d Zelda I've ever played.
Its good game in no way a 10 because the controlls are just frustrating at points, Including the flying. The missions outside of the temple arent anything to praise in my opinion being borderline tedious. But the rest of the game is atleast a 8+. This game wouldve been better with a controller or a duo control scheme.
Here's how I look at it. CoD from Modern Warfare 2 - 3 (including Black Ops), are all the same game but in a different location. Not gonna disagree with this reviewers OPINION, but not going to agree either as I am a huge Zelda fan, and I plan to buy Skyward Sword regardless. The point I'm trying to make here is that if anyone is going to review a game in the sense of looking back at what it's "recycled" in the past, then all games should be reviewed fairly. Don't bash Zelda because of it's past, and then go ahead and give CoD a pass. I'm also a fan of the Uncharted series, and a fan of Halo (I have all 3 of the current gen/talked about consoles), and what all of these have in common when you look at it is that neither of them drastically change mechanics around, or anything major like that, but they all add something that hasn't been in the previous versions while still paying homage to mostly everything else the previous versions did so they don't deter their fans away. Ultimately this is my opinion, and it won't change any of yours. We are all gamers at heart, or at least I know I am lol, and enjoy playing all games regardless of the little things a game may use again from its OWN FRANCHISE lol. Only thing I have left to say is that this review is just like any other, an "opinion" and should be treated as such. Don't let this deter you or any other review for that matter, from buying and playing a game YOU want to play. Have fun guys and take care :)
Yes, it is an opinion but it is also a review. There are several games out there that I don't like because they're not my type of game or because I was disappointed. But that does not excuse a reviewer for giving a great game such an abysmal score. You don't have to give it a perfect 10, but don't bash it. Be honest. Don't just review a game based on it's flaws. And if you have a flaw, be prepared to back it up. And also be prepared to have your review compared to other games that have gotten that score in the past. If a site gives a game like Rogue Warrior a 65 and then gives Skyward Sword the same score, expect their credibility to be questioned.
Don't get me wrong man, I completely agree with you on that front. What I was trying to say is that if these so called "professional" reviewers are going to give Zelda or any game a low score simply because there is a recycled game formula, then they should do the same with Call Of Duty, and Uncharted, and God Of War, etc. But in many cases they don't because of preference, or because a franchise is popular. I want to direct the point mainly to Call of Duty though seeing as it sells like hot cakes for using relatively the same exact engine for each installment after Modern Warfare 1, and not too many people are nitpicking it, but when Zelda comes out, apparently thats the day some reviewers grow balls enough to want to say that the "formula is getting old"?? O.o Something about that just bothers me, and I'm sure it bothers quite a number of us here.
Well, i agree with you completely about that. I honestly believe that a review should be from more than one reviewer. One person's frustration should not be the only source for the article. I could easily give Madden a low score just because I don't know how to play the game and got frustrated. I could also give Madden an inflated good score because I'm the best Madden player in my neighborhood and have no problems with even the most frustratingly maddening things in the game.
am i the only one who thinks the camera in skyward sword does not allow the player much freedom of control over it? It just has a fixed camera and the option to centre :l Oh and a 1st person view. I like being able to pan the camera freely, but can't. Am i miising something here? Becuase it is actually quite annoying when you are trying to familiarise yourself with a new area in the game @snipeysnake - tell me how to control the camera then? Its not the controls, its the camera. You have no control over it. When you get it and play it you will see what i mean.
aw man its a fixed cam? thats one thing i liked about zelda games was the free camra then again thats what happens when u have motion right
it's not less "fixed" than in OoT , if you managed in OoT , you'll manage here
I'm guessing he didn't play the contols right like McShea... http://n4g.com/news/890306/...
how people are calling for blood for a bad review for SS when they haven't even played the game yet...
its been out since yesterday in europe
Been out for 9 days online
I don't know, he's entitled to his opinion amirite?
yea, but when it seems like a complete retread of the gamespot review controlwise, which was screwed up because he didn't control it right, then i'm concerned he screwed up the controls as well
if zelda does not appeal to someone why play it O.0 and i think skyrim looks lame but i havent played mostly i have a issue with the way the combat looks and if combat i a game sucks the game sucks thats how it is and skyrim has aot of comba which is bad
Well the things u are faced with when u are suppose to be an unbiased publication is that u are willing to weigh products on merits alone. It's deeds like this and of Gamespot that cause major media publications and sites to lose advertising money & traffic because the review is just so polarizing from everything else that is out there concerning this title. The fact alone that I trust is when Famitsu gave this game a 40/40 because they didn't just do it because it was Nintendo, they rarely ever give perfect scores like that, so there must be something special there
Great review.I've bookmarked it infact.Nintendo fanboys are nauseating,so just read the review instead of getting yourself a headache over the pure idiocy of their fanboy-affected "brain",which you'll find over this here comment section.
I bookmarked the review, too, but for a completely different reason. The comments are the only thing worth reading. I am a Nintendo FAN. Not a FANBOY. Fans respect games. Fanboys will blindly follow something while disregarding everything else. Claiming that someone is a fanboy just because they disagree with a terrible review is just plain wrong. I love Nintendo games, and while I do not agree with some of their decisions, I still love their games. I think if you read the comments, many of them actually make very valid points while Mr. Haley acts like a 3rd grader. I have to say that while I cannot comment on his opinion of the game (which seems to be very biased based on his opening paragraph), I can say that that was the absolute worst review I have ever read. I cannot agree with you, which is sad, because you seem to be a fan of Batman.
What the hell, i played the game and it is amazing. i', betting this reviewer is just out for the hits. its worth atleast a 9
Wow. This happens all the time.. A game that is 'seen' as a great game receives a low score on a review and all the fanboys go crazy. and blame it on the hits. How about you go cry in a corner instead or stop the whining. And either way its opinion based, if you would read the review you would realize the reviewer obviously doesn't like the game at all and it didn't suit his style of game (any kind of wii games it seems). And for any of you zelda fanboys you should realize this review shouldn't really worry you. Think a little outside the box. This guy is obviously just very biased.
Wow. Someone wasn't loved as a child! :P
Well Nintendo didn't learn how to make mature looking games. Zelda games should look similar to Oblivion bad-ass like graphics.