OXM UK: "You're not going to be sniped by a guy you can't even see" in the new Call of Duty, says Sledgehammer boss.
In COD you will be quickscoped by someone who's bunny jumping while crouching in the air, 10 feet away from you. Btw, isn't part of being a sniper to stay at a distance and hide from the enemies? Picking someone off from a distance in Battlefield 3 is easier said than done considering the bullet drop and the time it takes for the bullet to travel.
I would encourage (too all) to really reading the article closely as he isn't taking a digg out of BF3 nor is he saying it is a bad thing. He is infact saying it is a different way in COD. "Unlike other games, where you're going to be sniped from across the map by a guy you can't even see, and then respawn and you've got to run for five minutes to get back to the battle, right? That's not the Modern Warfare 3 method. This is about getting you in the action, you're pulling the trigger fast, you know what I mean? That's the essence of it." All he is saying is COD is a more fast paced game. So sitting back and sniping isn't really part of that type of game and doesn't really fit.
Actually from the quote you just took he's taking a direct stab at bf. It's the only game where if you do die, you have to (albeit, sometimes) spawn back at your base and run to the battle. While I agree, he seems to have forgotten that you can directly spawn on your teammates and even in vehicles. When I play with my friends in bf, if there's only one of us left alive in my squad, it's don't die dude!! But snipers aren't even snipers in bf either. It's a recon class. Not a sniper class.
If you're game uses sniper rifles that allows you to jump from two stories, do a 360 mid-air and pull off a quick scope headshot, then your game shouldn't have sniper rifles to begin with...
This is just pathetic... I wasn't aware that "quickscoping" takes skill -_-
You can stop defending this recycled crap game Clark. It's obviously a dig and not a very good one considering qs and no scoping is for scrubs.
That shouldnt even be called sniping. Since when do snipers need to be "in the action pulling the trigger fast" "sitting back and sniping doesnt really fit" If you arent sitting far away and sniping your not doing it right in the first place
Im quite enjoying BF3, and enjoy sniping. Being a sniper takes more patience because of the whole bullet drop and travel time of the bullet. The only complaint i have for the recon class is the mobile spawn. For instance, your a sniper which most of the time you spend at a distance scoping out the battle. If your a good sniper chances are your as far away from the battle picking people off so the mobile spawn doesnt make any sense. Only if your the type of sniper thats in the buildings.
@xgrunty... Nope in MAG you have to do that aswell.. also Section 8... Theres a ton of shooters where u respawn ages away from where the action is taking place..
"You're not going to be sniped by a guy you can't even see" because every sniper that attempts to snipe you will allow u to see him. He/She will even wave hi!
the mobile works great in conquest so your never far from a post and can snipe another post helping your team
He thinks a scope means sniper or something... there is barely any sniping in Cod anyway
I tried battlefield 3 and could not get into it that much. I also got MW3, mostly because my clan were all playing it and long story short, I caved in. Having said that, IW/sledgehammer or whoever the guy is making this comment and their thinking behind it is really twisted. For the type of gameplay that MW has turned into, they should not have any snipers at all. If sitting back and sniping isn't the sort of gameplay that goes with Cod then taking them out would surely be the logical thing to do. Seeing snipers running around like they are on C£^ck and shooting a sniper like it's an SMG or shotgun, that really adds skill and variety to the game. cod4 got it just right. there were maps that fitted having snipers, now it's just stupid.
So basically sniping in COD isn't sniping at all. Is this a way to justify quick-scoping?
nothing wrong with quick scoping imo.. I dont do it maself as i fail at doing it lol but if its So OP as everyone is saying then why not do it urself? dont matter if it takes no skill aslong as ur winning whats the problem? if ur not having fun doing it then thats ur issue.. if every gun was balanced theyd all be the same... and CoD maps are to small to snipe anyway
And a perfect example of why cod is trash, that's another reason why cod head are stereotyped as total idiots. Balanced weapons does not mean all the same, can some old gamers teach these first generation console owners some sense.
I keep getting quick-scoped! A term that shouldn't exist, snipers in real life would never be in that situation and why the hell is it in ANY game?
One time some guy went ape shite on me "YOU ARE HARD SCOPING THE HELL OUT OF ME FAG" I was just like dude, whats the point of the sniper then. If my methods are beating yours why quick scope in the first place? to go 0-20?
I agree at least in metal gear online its best to be at a distance hiding in the bushes. If you try to quick scope youll get owned ;-; you need patience and camo to survive.
Depends what u want.. a game where every1 is hiding from afar or a game where every1 is close together and have quick paced action... U keep getting quick scoped? then either join em or jump and crouch alot :)
@spitfire, I literally laughed out loud when I read your comment man. That has happened to me more times than I can count and is one of many reasons I no longer play COD games anymore. How about this gem too..... "OMG your k/d is terrible, you are a noob, you suck, blah, blah, blah." Then when you play them one on one, you beat the shit out of them. I have rarely lost when playing one on one. The thing is, is I hate sitting in one spot waiting for people to walk by. That is not the type of game COD is to me. To me, it is a fast-paced frantic military shooter. It is meant to be an Arcade game where you run around kind of like Quake with army dudes. I don't ever recall people just standing in a corner in Quake.
I agree, you will always see the sniper in those tiny maps.
This is crap I tried snipeing last nite on modern warfare 3 and it sucks its not what a sniper should do the maps r way to small
Also- in BF3 the sniper's scope flashes sun glare when aimed in your general direction so you know when to duck out.
Also, they rarely get you in one shot unless it's a good sniper who can calculate bullets' trajectories or unless you're just standing still.
Well put. I was literally just about to post this: "Yeah, you'll get quickscoped by a so-called sniper from 5 feet away as he bunnyhops his way to a 35-2 round. Totally better." Until I saw you pretty much nailed it already. Great minds think alike. Snipers are a severe weak point of the last few CoD games, and not something these guys should be proud of. It's like they're EMBRACING cheese tactics and giving the finger to everyone else.
they went a little overboard with the flanking routes if u ask me! i dont care where u are in the map there are 3 different ways u can be shot from even if u stick and patrol around the outside of the map its BS i want to be able to hold my own in other words U CAN GET SHOT FROM TO MANY DIRECTIONS AT ONE TIME!! and i have been knifed alot way more than normal.. IDK i guess im just a NOOB lol
What game are you talking about?
talkin about the MW3 maps bro
I thought snipers were supposed to stay out of sight, not jump out in the street, dancing like a yeti. Once on Kargh Island (beginning of a rush match as attackers) I was running towards the AA gun and suddenly I just drop dead. Kill can shows the guy was behind the far right MCom Station. I wasn't upset or felt cheated about the death. I was downright impressed.
kill *cam* sorry, auto correct.
Sniping is really hard in bf3, I used to use the recon class in BFBC2 most of the time so i could spot for my squad and i had over 300 kills with the M40 i can barley get 1 kill is BF3. So any time a sniper gets me with one shot in BF3 I am impressed by. Sniping was fun in COD modern warefare (had more open maps) but in MW2 it down right sucked.
Like a recent articles said : snipers are useless (in bf3), people without skill should accept it and pick other classes.
Actually, good snipers in BF3 are not useless at all. If all they are doing is just to get kills, then I kind of agree with you, but if they are watching objectives, spotting and killing at those objectives, then they are damn well not useless at all.
And snipers can be spotted and taken out.Just a cheap shot that missed.
You're not going to be sniped by a guy you can't even see" XD isn't this what snipers usually do? that's why there called "snipers" you usually cant see them.
OMG that was 2 funny
You mean you havent seen Delta Force snipers that wear high vis gear like road workers?
haha good one private joker
so, what he is saying is other games have real snipers while CoD's snipers basically use the rifle as a shotgun....
LOL...that is how is suposed to be... you cant see snipers
Ya, if you see a sniper, he's not doing his job.
OMG... now i want watch Sniper with Beringer and Enemy at the Gates
Good call. I propose we also emulate that Beringer flick and start cutting the trigger fingers off of all CoD snipers.
What a tosser. Isn't the whole purpose of sniping to sit back? And if I want to get back into a battle quickly ill take a lift in a hummer, a tank, buggy, jet, chopper, boat, etc. COD dont have that cool shit bitch!!
Sniping sucks in CoD anyways. Never really bothered with it.
i can see everyone from any distance with my heat seeking scope on my gun :)
Perfect Dark ?..... And it can shoot through EVERYTHING!!!! lol
CoD sniping is worthless. It's not sniping. He should not talk about Battlefield's sniping because it walks all over CoD so called "sniping". In BF, you have to take gravity into account as well. You can't shoot 500m and expect to hit your target when he is right in the center of your scope. In CoD, you can because there is no gravity pulling down your bullet. It just goes into eternity.
Well, COD doesn't try to be as "sim" as BF.
And that has what to do with CoD's inferior "sniping?"
It's "inferior" because it's more arcady. They're two different games with different play styles.
It's inferior because it's not sniping. Only a handful of maps on the past few Call of Duty titles even allowed for what could be called sniping. The rest of it is as someone else said, treating a sniper rifle like a shotgun, as it's somehow deadly effective in close quarters, thanks to quick scoping and the like. They ARE two different games, but, honestly, Call of Duty's play style isn't suited for sniper rifles.
For the most part the play style isn't suited for each map. But there are some maps that are suited for snipers and others that are not.
its not gravity pulling your bullet down, its the coriolis effect, the rotation of the earth.
I admit I didn't know that. Thank you very much! Just learned something new today. Bubbles up!
Uhh. Gravity is what is bringing that bullet down. Dont know why you think other wise. The Coriolis effect only takes account for long range missiles and artillery. Not sniping someone from a few hundred yards
I remember playing BF:BC2 and my whole team would be all snipers. Nobody was out securing points because everyone was too busy hiding and sniping even the other team. Very annoying.
I hated that too, its called a crap team.
You were playing with a horrible team. Whenever I play Bad Company 2 (regardless of which class), I never camp back. I always go into the battle and support the others. Even if I played as recon, I used the VSS Snaiperskaya Special sniper with a 4x scope zoom. This combination makes you a deadly sniper at close range. You just take down a couple of people in a matter of seconds.
Is it not the point of a sniper NOT to be seen? I love both games but when it comes to sniping... MW3 has quick scoping where you do not even need to aim, its basicaly a built in Aim bot, That is what you can expect from snipers in MW/cod games. Where as with BF3, you have some true long distance sniping, Bullet drop and travel time, Just because you have your cross hair on the target does not mean you hit it, you have to compensate for the drop and travel time. Also BF3 gives you lens flare so you can see a sniper. If a MW guy is going to put down BF3 over something, they have to do better than that.
Activision whish... is to know how to make Sniping from BF... it's not just CTRL C and CTRL V every year :)!
In BF3, you will not be noob tubed in your spawn as soon as the game starts.
I think COD needs to STFU about BF3, and BF3 STFU about COD. They both need to worry about their own games.
I don't think CoD is in any position to comment on another games sniping.
All the Battlefield fan-boys need to stop crying and quit repeating the same shit over and over again, we get what your saying. Snipers should sit across the map with a pizza and pepsi next to them and wait all match for someone to come to your zone. I enjoy both games but the thing that "turns" me off about Battlefield is the snipers.
The reason everyone is repeating the same shit is because it's correct shit and what a sniper is supposed to do.
Most Battlefield snipers are not like that you sit back like 300-500 feet from the action so you can call in strikes and enemy positions while taking down 1/2 the enemy team with your rifle most battle.
So im 10 hours into cod, constantly get killed by snipers i cant see or get killed in a one on one fight with a sniper even though i have a machine gun. Snipers in cod are 1 hit ko all over, even the toe. Its very annoying and very much worse than battlefield. In my opinion.
thats the worst part about it.. the one hit kill on any body part. Personally (again just my Personal Opinion) I have never had any problem with snipers being a one hit kill, specially if it's a head or chest shot (any gun really should be one hit kill with a headshot) and I really don't mind at all when I see someone in a good position taking their time to line up the shot, follow my movement and then get a one hit kill. I am fine with that, but if they want snipers to be running around and quick scopeing then at least it should be two shots, unless it's a headshot. I have not found it that much of a problem so far in MW3 though, not yet anyway. I still hate the idea of it and the fact that IW seem to support it as some sort of awesome gameplay mechanic.