The latest rumor says the next version of the Xbox will be smaller and cheaper than the current version, and will be based on the Windows 9 core software and ARM processors.
Er doubt it...cheaper perhaps but based on ARM...no
This is Microsoft so I wouldn't be surprised if the 720 is powered by a fetus. I have to admit, I'm completely in the dark as to what we can expect with the next-gen consoles. If its smaller and cheaper, that's good but I hope it isn't louder otherwise I'll need Turtlebeaches over my Turtlebeaches to drown out the sound. Its about time we got a really cool looking console that match the concept images= imagine a sphere, with liquid cooling....mmmmm.
He's right. Abandoning Intel or AMD x64 would probably be REALLY bad. One great thing about it is it is SO much like the PC that it lures many developers and is easy to get in to and use. Which if you change it to ARM, which isn't popular or a better microprocessor, you forgo lots of things. The biggest would be Xbox 360 compatibility and the quantity of programmers for it. I know Intel sucks, I wish it wasn't the processor chosen to lead us into the 21st century becausse it's such garbage, but I'd take AMD x64 and even Intel chips before the ARM stuff. At least x64's (REAL AMD x64 chips, not crap Intel x86-64!) they have better execution and a new and [drastically] better instruction set.
"This is Microsoft so I wouldn't be surprised if the 720 is powered by a fetus." I don't think you realize that at the time of the 360's launch, a triple core processor with hyperthreading was pretty much insane. The Xbox Original was also the most powerful console on the market in it's time. It actually cost MS about $700 or $800 to make each 360 when they first came out, and they were selling them for $400.
"I know Intel sucks, I wish it wasn't the processor chosen to lead us into the 21st century becausse it's such garbage...." hahahaha, what? Last gen Intel chips are bulldozing AMD's newly released Bulldozer chips.
^ Not really, Intels x86 instruction set was shtty the day it made it's release in 78. It's always been the worst. If we had computers built on the 68000 we'd be way farther ahead. You don't know much about microprocessors and how to program them I guess, oh well. Most here don't. And AMD chips beat the snot out of Intel chips, you probably saw some bent stats from Intel about how good their chips aree when you really saw one instruction that is better than AMD run 1000000 times and then the difference. Intels can't be overclocked as much and are just garbage, sorry. i7 has NOTHING on an decent 6-core AMD chip, nowhere close.
I agree with the other posters...the CPU architecture for both Xbox and Xbox 360 were pretty tight. I doubt that would be one of the downfalls of the 720. RAM and storage space are probably going to be the biggest issue.
Cheaper and smaller makes it sound like we're not getting a full upgrade and the 720 is going to be the Wii of next gen. Either that or they mean the 720 will cost less than the 360 did at its launch which is what I'm hoping, but that still doesn't sit well with me. I'm hoping this is: 1) an xbox handheld 2) spec for a new Zune 3) an upgraded 360 I'll hold off my opinion until solid details come out, but I've believed for the longest that the Xbox 720 is only going to be a modest upgrade compared to what many of us expect. It's going to look better than Wii U, but is it going to blow it out the water or just be a noticeable difference. This makes me wonder are we going to have the Wii U specs./graphics, 720 specs./graphics, and PS4 specs./graphics all on different scales, and how will that affect the next generation of consoles.
@3GenGames If you're talking about it from a programmer's point of view, then fine. I don't know much about that. But from a performance point of view, Intel has a major advantage over the AMD line. The core i3/i5/i7 line of chips outdo the AMD Phenom X2 variants by a significant degree.
"Cheaper" That's always concerned me, but hasn't surprised me. I pointed out before, when Shane Kim was heading up the Xbox, he had commented in the past that the next gen would most likely break from the traditional console mold and be more of a cheaper hub for digital distribution. And seeing how well Nintendo did with a relatively underpowered Wii, I don't blame MS sitting up and taking notice, especially when you consider the boost they've seen from the casual market with Kinect. Some people are clamoring for the next gen. Be careful what you wish for.
Performance wise in real world applications, Intel outdoes AMD by far. It's not even an opinion. Just look at every Sandy Bridge benchmark compared to AMDs hex-cores. Even before Sandy Bridge, they've always come on top. I have no idea where you get the idea that Intel is garbage.
here we go again, another xbox 720 news
Hope this part "It will be cheaper than the 360, further enabling Kinect adoption" isn't true. Being cheaper usually means sacrifices and the reason meaning kinect adoption sort of hints at the direction (i.e. the hardcore are more likely to spend more on new gaming tech). Lets just hope this is one of the many "inside" sources that turn out to be false.
Maybe cheaper at launch cause they waited so long between console cylcles that off the shelf parts are 10 times better. I read they had to dumb down the combined cpu/gpu in the newer slims just to keep them compatible with older models.
just rumors, nothing solid ....
I dont reckon it will be cheaper... maybe smaller.... but not cheaper.... I am just waiting for the surprise i guess haha.....
I think both consoles will be cheaper than their previous launch counterparts. I'm expecting the technology to be mainly upgraded versions of what we currently have which should mean reduced costs (less R&D) and backwards compatibility.
If a console next gen doesn't have backwards comparability then im not buying it. I bought a lot of dlc have a lot of ps3, 360 and regular Xbox games. (I have a lot of ps2 games but can't play them on a ps3). On top of my achievements and other things, it's a necessity.
Well we should take inflation into account. Taking inflation since 2005 and assuming 3% annual inflation from now until 2015 we could pay $650 for a console in 2015 and it would be the same as paying $500 for a console in 2005.
Nah, price of tech has dropped tremendously. This gen's consoles came out during a really volatile time in the hardware department which is why they were priced the way they were. CPU wise both 360 and PS3 are still pretty decent. High-end PCs at present, though, could easily emulate PS3 and 360 games (lots of disagrees from PS3 fanboys, but whatever). They could release a console next year at the $299 price-point using a mid-ranged Nvidia card and slightly better CPU structure (a few more ghz per core) with maybe 6GB-8GB of RAM and the consoles would be pretty decent.
You know when Nintendo made the Wii cheap it sacraficed a lot of things.....just saying I hope they havent done this to add crappy Kinect stuff
cool story bro. no hits for you.
No way is not launching until 2015 if WiiU releases Q4 next year. Same goes for Sony, next year at least one more 8th gen console will be announced, that's a given.
Smaller would be nice the first PS3 was ridiculous - Next gen they should do it smarter. Again until it comes from MS, SONY or Nintendo..rumors will be rumors
Whoa I still happen to own a PS3 Phat, and I had the opportunity to trade it in for a slim..... But I refused to, seeing that the Phat version looks 10 X's better than the slim
I have a sexy piano black, touch sensitive eject and power buttons, backward compatible all slots and 4 ubs plug in booyaaaaaaa! eat your heart out slim owners. But on the real...think I have to upgrade cause its loud as hell.
I know this isn't really linked to the article but I believe next gen will be a very hard move, everyone wants: -60Fps+ -Native and displayed 1080p -Better graphics which means higher resolution textures and poly count. -High AA levels -Longer games -Even cheaper consoles (Price wise) -3D support on all titles -More ram (VRAM AND system RAM) The problem is console may become unaffordable next gen if everything on this list are present next gen, I mean do you people know how much cpu & gpu power you need to run Metro 2033 3D on, 1080p,60+ Fps...My PC can do that but it cost me 1000$ and still barely do it at 45Fps.
Technology advances fast my friend. Oh so Very fast.
Who is asking for 3D? I don't think I have ever seen one commenter or one thread from any gamer or site blatantly asking devs to sacrifice time to add in 3D support. LOL That's industry hogwash and electronic companies pushing for 3D, not gamers.
I played the metro demo on pc, 1600/1200 30 fps didnt see anything that a ps3 coundnt do, gameplay wise, to me next gen is driving a tank straight threw a small country village with every wall / brick / shed / window / and garden gnome reacting like it just got hit with 60 tons of metal, just havent seen anything like that on the pc yet
I honestly think it's hilarious that anybody would think that it would be powered by an ARM CPU. That's the most ludicrous thing I've heard in a while. And why would it be any smaller than a 360? I can guarantee that it's CPU(s) will be generating a lot of heat, and having a small case will not help that issue. We don't need another round of RROD issues. There's no need for a home console to be extremely compact anyway. Also, why would it be cheaper? The 360 is still $300 today. I doubt they would launch it at the same price as a 6 year old console. MS had to spend $700+ to make each 360 when they first came out, it's likely that MS will do something similar with their next gen console.
So is Microsoft just skipping Windows 8?
^^ This is exactly why I think this whole article is BS. Unless Windows 9 is gonna come out 6 months after windows 8.
No, but Windows 9 is the OS that will feature true Xbox connectivity. Makes sense, as they'll launch at similar times. This has been widely reported, so Google it.
I believe in the future of ARM CPUs, because Qualcomm already proved it by releasing their own ARM mobile processor called Snapdragon Dual core, watch it here: http://www.youtube.com/watc... They even hook that smartphone armed with Adreno CPU to HDTV for 1080p resolution, so yeah I believe in that, that's not impossible, cause there's already a solid proof that ARM can be used as a weapon for the next console wars.
Personally I see at least one of if not both of Sony/Microsoft going to a different approach. I see them building a media "console" built for movies, apps, and a more general console that you can turn on and get news, facebook etc in a more fluid manner than the ps3/360. The console will be built around this first and then secondly will be for gaming. I think that either Sony or Microsoft will do this, and most likely it will be Microsoft due to Windows 8. If you look at the W8 demos you will see the panel set up is very friendly to a TV/controller set up. What better way to push Windows 8 if you didn't actually have to have a computer for it but rather a console that your kids have been nagging you to buy for days now? Parents will look at it and see something they can utilize and may pick a second on up eventually that won't ever be used for games. Gamers may be mad but in the end it is business and someone next generation will go this route. They would be stupid not to since we are out of the age of having a vcr, dvd player, blu-ray player, stupid comcast box, and 1-3 consoles all attached to your television. Give the consumers something that solves the majority of those problems and they will eat it up.
Makes no sense. According to MSNerd's website, xbox loop is due to launch in 2013. Windows 9 won't be out until 2014....Plus this would be the opposite of what we have been hearing from the likes of AMD. This sounds more like a completely different product from the xbox 360's successor...sounds more like a competitor to the likes of apple tv with casual gaming possibilities....Microsoft will commit suicide if they go the Wii route with the xbox successor....
If it is than it is prob a piece of shit
This rumor is such bullshit, how? They can't even finish windows 8 right.
Cheaper than the current Xbox. Very unlikely. Based on ARM architecture. No way that would make too many compromises on performance for electrical effeciency, and that doesnt make sense for something that doesn't move all day. Smaller is sort of a toss up. On one hand smaller looks better takes less space and stuff, but it is usually worse at heat dissipation, and with graphics cards and cpus requiring better cooling I dont see it happening
people who do not understand technology feel the need to write about it. why? ARM ? author please take a step back, and punch yourself in the face.
You better not dismiss this as a real possibility http://dangerousprototypes.... And microsoft is working in ARM compatibility for windows 8, since early this year.
you better realize these chips dont have nearly enough power to do anything game related. So what if windows 8 support is there? I will give you same advice as author of article. Take a step back and punch yourself in the face. then go to tech forums, realize what nonsense you just posted, come back and delete your comment. thanks.
Nah, I can't positively agree, since Intel is in bed with google (x86 now optimized for ice cream sandwich), Now Microsoft turned to ARM since they're now developing 64 Bit multicore platforms. ARM is just overall superior when it comes to performance per watt, remember they're just RISC processors, reduced instruction set like the PPC cores.There's no reason they can't made good CPU's when proper scaling is applied. With GPU's stepping into CPU territory all these years, an exotic arquitecture would make sense.
Post some benchmarks where arm can even remotely compete with intel i5 or i7 processors in terms of TOTAL PERFORMANCE. Not performance per watt. TOTAL. You know, since thats what matters for games?. If you cant do that then your argument is void.
Microsoft's NeXBOX using ARM Multi-core chips? What happened to AMD/Raedeon combo cored chips. Their damn GOOD, Aren't they? WOW!!! Sony got ARM multi-core chips running inside of the PSVita. So this explains how the NeXBOX overall design can be smaller and CHEAPER to produce, hence keeping production costs low. DAMN you MS/Xbox, good business tactical thinking. Sony better not BOTCH this, Just sit back, ANILIZE and then CAPITALISE !! Just like how Microsoft been capitalizing/copying off the capabilities from the Ps2 to build the xbox1. I have old VHS video footage of an xbox tech designer saying "We want to break into this console franchise fast, And we don't have the time to design it all from scratch, So let's COPY what the ps2 can do and just make it more powerful" And that's how the xbox original can to be. Since Sony's PS4 coming out later than the nexbox, sony should just analyse all the tech & capabilities and than just capitalise and make it MUCH STRONGER, This is not to say the ps3's not stronger than the x360, It is been proving over and over that tech wise, it's superior. But just NOT BY MUCH. Not much as in comparison to, let's say the ps2 and xbox1. So ARM's multi-core tech gonna play a roll on next-gen consoles internal organs starting with nexbox,(*Not mentioning PSVita cuz, it's a handheld) Sony also has partnered with ARM, I want to see/read how they going to respond to this latest news. Sony's still using the cell, Well a 2nd gen version of one, that is......
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