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Gears of War 3 Creator Explains Why They’re Charging To Unlock Content that’s Already on the Disc

The $10 worth of new content that went on sale digitally for Gears of War 3 this week is mostly already included on the Gears of War 3 disc that gamers bought for $60.

It's fair to charge extra for content that is already on the game disc you bought, one of the game's lead creators told Kotaku. Sound strange?

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farhsa20082234d ago

Epic have the nerve to try and justify themselves on this?

If I were them I would at least shut up and try and get away with it rather than looking like bigger douches.

SKUD2234d ago

I agree. IMO, DLC of this type is major cancer to gaming. It's disappoint to realize that there's more content on the disk but because they feel they have sold gamer's a "full game" we need to shell out more cash. As if $65 (US) isn't enough. Especially in this economy.

I can only assume that people with more money then sense keep the wheels of this business cancer practice running.

vsr2234d ago

Game content should not be DLC excepts patches.

gamingdroid2234d ago

Except the first map pack is free!

I really don't get it, the outrage for DLC seems so much more significant than for Online Passes. There is no way for you to know if it was created prior to the game release if the developer decided to hide it from you.

In fact, why would it even matter if it was planned in advance.

However, one thing is certain Online Passes is something that was unheard of until recently.

Personally, I would rather pay for extra content, than get screwed over and forced to pay just to play online.

... but hey, choose your poison!

GamersRulz2234d ago

I was planning to answer your questions, but it seems like you're blinded by fanboyism so I'd rather save my efforts.

ZombieAssassin2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

"I would rather pay for extra content, than get screwed over and forced to pay just to play online. "

You have to pay for XBL....

Quit being blinded by fanboyism, at least with an online pass if you buy new you get to access it without paying more...this you pay full price new and have to pay to access content on the disc...I'm sure if this was a ps3 exclusive doing this you'd be singing a different tune as most in here would.

madjedi2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

Yeah still a dick move regardless, just like when capcom pulled the same shit, your still paying twice for the same content.

"However, one thing is certain Online Passes is something that was unheard of until recently.

Personally, I would rather pay for extra content, than get screwed over and forced to pay just to play online." -_- Jesus talk about irony coming out of the mouth of a primary 360 gamer, i have to wonder if this had been a multiplat instead of one of the main 360 exclusives. Would you have defended it as heavily.

I hate gamers pretending to be neutral. Just admit your bias and be done with it.

badz1492234d ago

can't believe somebody actually stepped up and defend on-disc DLC! talk about being a sheep!

cvflyboy2234d ago

droid just leave this site and don't let the door knob hit you in the pussy on your way out. The name droid fits u perfect

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Jaybronee2234d ago

you can fit DLC on an Xbox disc?? lol...

DazeLokrotan2234d ago

If this approach is justified then who's stopping game companies from lying to us that their game is coming out on a particular date, delay it and then tell us that the content they locked out on the disc was developed before the 'original' release date?

YodaCracker2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

Gears of War 3 is packed to the brim with so much quality content; it would be hard to find a more complete game. So I find nothing wrong with the DLC, especially with the perfectly sound reasoning Rod gave. The only thing I didn't like was how much Epic charged for the weapon skins at launch, but that doesn't really affect the game, so whatever. Now if a game felt like it was lacking content and they charged for on-disc DLC, then I would be pissed!

Hicken2234d ago

This is what we call being a fanboy.

IT'S NEVER OKAY TO HAVE DLC ON THE DISC. There is no justifying that.

If it's so "packed to the brim," there shouldn't be a need for the DLC. Call it a service to the customers who've made your game so popular.

You and others go right ahead and let this trend continue by excusing the underhanded developers who do it. Then, when you're paying full price for a game, but have to pay $15 to unlock multiplayer, but need another $20 to access the menus, and are required to give up $10 to save your game, you should have no reasons to complain.

vickers5002234d ago

"If it's so "packed to the brim," there shouldn't be a need for the DLC."

Well that's a rather ignorant way to put it. More content is always welcome, but that doesn't mean that anything that comes out after it makes it any less packed full of content. Fallout 3 and Oblivion were LOADED with content even before the DLC came out, DLC wasn't needed, but it was much welcomed. Gears 3 is also packed to the brim with content, it's not like it's some incomplete/lazy rip-off, it has a lot of content.

But other than that little point, I agree with everything else you said.

Hicken2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

I was referring specifically to the on-disc DLC. Yes, more content is welcome, but we're speaking on content we already own because we own the disc on which the content was placed.

I don't like day 1 DLC: if it's available the same day the game releases, it should be a part of the game, and thus it should be free. But this practice is even worse, because it's not even anything that you have to download separately.

MrBeatdown2234d ago

"we're speaking on content we already own because we own the disc on which the content was placed"

BRB, I'm going to go call HP. I bought a laptop from them that had Microsoft Office pre-installed on it. The trial ran out so I thought I was out of luck but it turns out they owe me an unlock key, seeing as how I own the computer it's stored on.

gamingdroid2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

So when Epic made a free DLC i.e. maps for everyone, I don't see anyone really praising it.

I don't see any issues with DLC being on the disc.

Why would it matter when it was created?

Does it not take resources to make?

Is the game not packed with content as is?

***Then, when you're paying full price for a game, but have to pay $15 to unlock multiplayer, but need another $20 to access the menus, and are required to give up $10 to save your game, you should have no reasons to complain.***

That is almost retarded argument, as that would never fly... then again, nobody really complained about online passes? Missing single player content like Batman game.

Yet, Epic is offering us significant content such as map packs that other companies will easily charge $15 for. Yet when they ask $10 for optional content, all hell breaks loose.

***I don't like day 1 DLC: if it's available the same day the game releases, it should be a part of the game, and thus it should be free. But this practice is even worse, because it's not even anything that you have to download separately.***

You had to download a 1.47 MB file.

Anyways, I found this trial of Adobe Creative Suite. Since it is now downloaded on my computer, I OWN IT! Damn Adobe are criminals trying to charge me for it. WTF?

Heck, I own part of this website too. I'm looking at the web page and IT IS ON MY COMPUTER. How dare HAVa media ascertain copyright over my property!? /s

MrBeatdown2233d ago

I find it pretty funny that my comment got 13 disagrees, yet not one person could put into words why they are entitled to every piece of content on a game disc, including the downloadable unlock key needed to access it, yet aren't entitled to every piece of content on a hard drive.

It just goes to show the sense of unjustified entitlement that gamers have because of physical formats. Pretty soon it will be a moot point. Companies will get tired of nonsensical bitching and entitlement and do away with discs all together.

It's unfortunate that gamers can't accept that they are buying a GAME and the disc it is stored on, rather than a disc and everything stored on it, and will eventually drive the industry away from physical forms of distributing the product (the game) they are selling.

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LackTrue4K2234d ago (Edited 2234d ago )

"this fool" thats like buy a 4 seater car, but can only used the front 2 seats,thats DLC you need to pay more to use them.... (O and the web site trys to make it look like a good move cough cough fanbody webpage cough.....)

DigitalRaptor2233d ago

Kotaku have always been a biased source. They have become better with the times, but they still write flamebait articles and some with undertones of negative promotion for PS3 and the obvious example here is positive promotion of something negative for Xbox.

kagon012234d ago

To scam gamers...

"Fergusson can justify his game's on-disc DLC. His answer is complex, but logical" (fail)

Unfortunately, I can't tolerate con artist in the gaming industry...

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