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Ammo Systems In Shooters Are Infuriating And Insane

From the puzzling shotgun incompetence of Master Chief to the severe lack of pocket-space in Homefront, disgruntled gamer Dave ‘Mack’ McConkey has suffered through the most infuriating ammo systems that the shooter genre has to offer. Here, he sounds off on the issue – and suggests how things can be improved.

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cl19834557d ago

Fallout has the system correct.you can only carry so much weight, and even a well maintained gun has to be repaired more often then the older the gun becomes, and the more the gun is used.

vortis4557d ago

I agree. This is the same system used in Jagged Alliance: You can have as many guns as you can hold. I think that system makes sense and was also used in Killing Floor.

vishant1014557d ago

For someone that plays gears a lot i can tell you, there is no reason to complain about ammo the guns have a huge clip size and ammo caps are high also the amount of ammo you find lying around is tonnes you will never run outta ammo in the campaign unless playing 4 player co-op insane.

Drake1174557d ago

Good lord some of the things people will complain about.

grailly4557d ago

this guy doesn't know what he's talking about... 90 rounds is already quite a few rounds to carry into combat if you have an assault rifle. you do have a few pockets, but one goes for grenades, one for gas mask, then I still had one for my glasses/food/camo makeup/flashlight... you can only carry 3-4 more clips if you want to be fully loaded.

madjedi4557d ago

The guy is probably basing this off of always full auto hollywood movies and video games, not reality.

hazelamy4557d ago

whether you agree with the article or not, i don't have strong opinions either way, it was a damn entertaining read.

madjedi4557d ago (Edited 4557d ago )

Entertaining, more like waste of time/author is a dumbass article, not every game needs infinite ammo for every weapon. This guy must have pissed himself playing the ps1 resident evils, where ammo is in short supply, and your always scrounging for more.

I think the modern soldier still carrys 100+ pounds of gear on him, since many of these games try to mimic reality/dependant on the game, is it surprising you have max ammo caps that isn't in the hundreds for every gun.

hazelamy4556d ago

well i got some laughs out of it, that's entertaining in my book.
i'm not saying whether he's right or not, because as i said i don't have a strong opinion either way, i said it was entertaining.
and to me it was.

Mad_Mack4557d ago

I love how I get lambasted for commenting on the non-realistic games, by commenters who are using the realistic games as a counter argument. I actually think that BF3 or MW or whatever actually have the ammo requirements right.

As for those who think that a real soldier will go into battle with 90 spare bullets, here is some numbers for you to crunch:

The standard loadout of a British soldier in Afghanistan will walk out the gates of his FOB carrying (at a minumum) 6 magazines (180 rounds) plus a bandoleer with another 180 rounds, plus additional ammo for the section or platoon support weapons (link ammunition for the GPMG/LMG, mortar bombs for the 51 or 61ml platoon mortar, grenades for the UGL, additional loose ammo for their rifle etc.)

Finally, I am not confused by Hollywood portrayals of fire fights. A soldier firing on rapid fire (single shot, 2 rds per second) will empty a mag in 15 seconds. With six full mags a soldier will be out of ammo and have to re-bomb his mags in less than three minutes. On auto, they could burn through their ammo in less than a minute (in theory, not accounting for the time it takes to reload).

It is true that a soldier carries over 100+ pounds of kit, but actually a lot of this is ammunition. I can give you a detailed breakdown of a riflemans kit on patrol in Afghan if you wish. But I tell you it does not include a ‘gas mask’ (which incidentally have not been seen since WW1 – soldiers these days use respirators when faced with a CBRN environment). Idiot.

SJPFTW4557d ago

cool story armchair general. and in both COD and BF3 your not limited to just 90 bullets. You can have max 180 in COD or 200+ in bf3 depending on perk. its called balance, if they came out with more by default there is no use for perks and the support class(BF3).

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Looking Back At 2008, An Unbelievably Incredible Year Of Video Game Releases

Huzaifa from eXputer: "2008 was home to the likes of Call of Duty: World at War, Dead Space, GTA 4, Far Cry 2, Left 4 Dead, and many other hits, which is outright remarkable."

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Now is the Best Time to Get This Incredible RPG Bundle on Steam

If you are looking for an awesome RPG, look no further. Steam is offering a significant discount on its Fallout Franchise Bundle.

SimpleSlave13h ago

"You can get all Fallout games in a bundle at a significant 20% discount on Steam. Individually, all these games add up to $244.91. With the discount, you can get them all for $195.91. That is $49 less than the original price. Quite a significant discount for such a popular franchise."

😊 😂 🤣 😐 - But why?

Just wait for a sale and get most if not all of it for a fraction of that price.

20% off...lol

Tacoboto13h ago

The games were just on a real sale over the last week or two for the show promotion. Fallout 4 was $10, 3 was $5, NV was cheap as heck too.

So what the heck is this

Inverno13h ago

The original games have been given out for free by Amazon for GOG and Epic, 76 is free now on Amazon if you have prime, Epic has also given out new Vegas for free and 4 has gone down to pretty cheap prices. 194 bucks is a total ripoff when you can get these games individually for less. Don't forget cd keys might sell em for a dollar less at times too. Come on man, us cheapskates won't touch anything near or above 100 lolz

isarai12h ago

Bro that's a ridiculous ripoff are you kidding me? 🤣

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Fallout 3's Reveal Led To Death Threats And Bethesda's First Security Guard

The artist behind Fallout 4’s Deathclaw reveals just how bad things got back when Bethesda took over the series

anast1d 17h ago

People are stupid I get it. No one should feel unsafe,

But I think they need to talk about why they cut so many corners during the development process and why none of their games ever look current. And why they think all of this is okay while they charge full price.

LucasRuinedChildhood1d 16h ago

As much as Bethesda deserve criticism, that's not really relevant to the reveal of Fallout 3 in 2007.

VenomUK1d 13h ago

The default angle Kotaku always go for is to highlight the worst in gaming.

I would’ve focused on the creative.

anast19h ago

The game went downhill at Fallout 3's release. This is when they started to cut corners.

gold_drake1d 12h ago

there is no "but". the hell lol
you dont send death threats, period.

anast19h ago

Usually, you have good comments but this isn't one of them. It just rides the mob. We can do both condemn the actions and not let them use it for other things.

I can say I received a death threat and everyone needs to shut up. People are not honest and will use horrible things to their advantage.

Armaggedon1d 7h ago

Not all games “look” current.

anast19h ago

Their games always look like the gen before it.

Armaggedon10h ago

Yeah, but thats not the result of laziness, incompetence, or a bad engine. Thats what happens with their type of open world games. Its hard for people to find a point of comparison because no one makes games like Bethesda does.

gold_drake13h ago

mh ok thanks, i still think ur wrong in this mate.

anast11h ago

No problem. I'm not here to convince you. I'm only stating an actuality. What your words do if we look at them like events.

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