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Submitted by Jam_sponge 1086d ago | opinion piece

7 games so good they ruined gaming

OXM UK: "When you spend most of your free time trying to squeeze in sessions with as many games as possible, it's not unusual to find yourself fiddling around with some catastrophically duff products. Worse than that though, are the game-breakers: titles that left me with a faintly fuzzy afterglow that I couldn't quite shake." (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, Dark Souls, Mass Effect 2, PC, PS3, The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, Xbox 360)

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dirigiblebill  +   1086d ago
Any proper Mario game. Oh, and from what I've played of it - Rayman Origins. Games used to be about fun. Nowadays, unfortunately, they're more about hard work.
rumplstilts  +   1086d ago
Mario makes me hate some other platformers physics. Super Meat Boy slides and slips way too much for my taste.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   1086d ago
@Rumplstitls

...You hate Super Meat Boy for behaving like meat? I do not understand your logic. You hate the game because it accomplishes what it's trying to accomplish?
TheREAL-HyDRo1x  +   1086d ago
How does this author dare say he has master Dark Souls, in one play through... I've platinum'd the game; few can step to my level in pvp and still don't feel like I've mastered it.
rumplstilts  +   1086d ago
@ZombieNinjaPanda

I do not understand your logic. If a game sets out to be a horrible game and succeeds in its goal, then should you appreciate and enjoy it for being absolutely terrible. No. The developers did achieve what they set out to accomplish and I respect them for doing that. But the end product happens to not suit my personal tastes and thus I do not enjoy it. I do not HATE Super Meat Boy. I just don't like it.
It is all personal preference and I am not going to give someone a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card just for doing what they meant to.
Saladfax  +   1086d ago
It's an interesting perspective, especially because the controls for SMB are really intuitive and, well... slick I suppose.

However, it sounds like personal preference, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Trebius  +   1086d ago
LOL @ Mastered Dark Souls in 1 playthrough! what a liar.

Im level 200 and i still dont feel like ive mastered it.
Blaine  +   1086d ago
@Hydro:

Agreed. I platted the game a few days ago and I can confidently claim to have mastered PvE (I did complete it 4 times by now though, and contribute to the wikispace page). I'm getting into PvP pretty seriously now though, and it's a whole other game, and I definitely wouldn't say I've mastered that for a while--if ever.

Right now I'm trying to see if I can find ways to tell which pyro spell my opponent is casting. My build is focused on parries and backstabs, and most of the time when I see someone casting a pyro spell it's a golden opportunity to get a bs on him. But now I keep getting hit *behind them* by greater combustion, so I need to learn how to tell that spell apart from the others.

There's always going to be details like this in PvP that will keep me from claiming I've mastered the meta-game.

Edit: just read the article (I know... should do that before posting!) and it didn't sound like he really meant master. More like "conquer."
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StraightPath  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta was a fantastic hack & slash game. Bayonetta & GoW III are the best hack & slash game this generation so far.

Well Ninja Gaiden 3 is on the way so hack & slash fans can look forward to that.
frjoethesecond  +   1086d ago
Couldn't agree more. Most games are bland by their standards.
HellzAssassin  +   1086d ago
But... NG3 has changed so much from the previous installments... In a bad way): I'm still looking forward to it though...

I agree with your initial statement, but switch GoW3 with NGS2.

Bayo + NGS2 + DMC4 = best action games this generation. Hell, probably the best games this generation.
baodeus  +   1086d ago
For fighting mechanic wise, i wouldn't put GoW3 in the same category as Bayonetta, NG, or DMC.

The fighting mechanic in those games really ruin my experience with game like GoW3 or games with similar fighting mechanic like Castlevania:LOS or Dante Inferno.
Captain Qwark 9  +   1086d ago
i didnt like bayonetta at all and would def not include it in that list. I also think GOW 3 is by far the weakest entry in the series, aside from nice boss battles and great graphics, that game did not do it for me.

id trade out

bayo for Batman AC ( genre defining game imo )
ME2 for ME1
add in Castlevania SOTN ( PS1 ) since it defined what a side scroller should be for me
Toss in Uncharted for setting the standard for story presentation
Add in Halo 2 for defining what online multi on consoles should be ( and imo still has the best multi maps )
also keeping COD for taking it a step further by adding depth witht he perk/weapon attachment system
the rest of the list stays as it is quite good

but thats just my opinion....
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t0mmyb0y  +   1086d ago
Hard work? Games nowadays show you how to do everything. What ever happened to using your brain to figure out what to do?
specialguest  +   1086d ago
From what I've read on certain game reviews, games that don't tell you where to look or give you a hint gets a negative mark by the reviewers. Such a shame...
Tanir  +   1086d ago
Why do you think demons souls and dark souls got popular? its because you have to figure everything out for yourself
Captain Qwark 9  +   1086d ago
exactly what i was think tanir, go play Dark souls or demon souls, i was still learnign things at the 50hr mark and having finished it, there is still plenty to learn
Biggest  +   1085d ago
Game reviews ALSO have negative marks because of linearity and hand holding. No one knows what they want these days. It's easier to hate than it is to form an educated opinion.
ambientFLIER  +   1086d ago
"Games used to be about fun. Nowadays, unfortunately, they're more about hard work."

Isn't it the other way around now? Games used to be hard and hard work, and now they are accessible and fun.
frostypants  +   1086d ago
@dirigiblebill
Are you joking? Games today are FAR easier than the games of the past. So much so that it's a novelty when a challenging game is released.
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otherZinc  +   1086d ago
Without Halo, the XBOX wouldnt exist!

Same for Mario, Nintendo wouldnt exist!

They should have been mentioned. Also, still nothing offers the 4 player sandbox co-op gaming of Halo.
cochise313  +   1086d ago
Am I the only one who thought Bayonetta was overrated? I don't see what all the hype is about. It's a decent game, just not great.
LOGICWINS  +   1086d ago
I loved the demo, but I returned the game a week after I bought it. The story was a little too over the top for my tastes.
cochise313  +   1086d ago
I bought it for 10 bucks. Yeah the story was pretty out there. I guess I didn't like the combat as much as others.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   1086d ago
Overrated, not to me, but Vanquish, that was WAY overrated.
LadyGaga  +   1086d ago
That's the point. The game is supposed to be ridiculous, that's what's refreshing about it.
SilentNegotiator  +   1086d ago
Dopey story aside, the combat was not focused. Perfect for fanboys to hype up and gush over, though, thanks to the massive list of combos. Between being a game people could call "better than God of War" because they didn't have the hardware to play GOW3 (with the bonus of the ps3 version being crap) and people with Sarah Palin/anime-ish fetishes, it was destined to be over-rated.

@WrAiTh
How about both of 'em? :)
Vanquish was boring as a cover-shooter, dysfunctional as a close-up and personal style (thanks to the energy meter idiotically being a part of everything, including a quick-drain when delivering a punch).
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VINNIEPAZ  +   1086d ago
"I don't see what all the hype is about. It's a decent game, just not great."

Ummmm maybe you don't like the Ninja Gaiden/DMC type of action games then. When it came to Bayonetta, the combat was AWESOME and intense. Its gonna be hard to top how damn near perfect it plays.

"The story was a little too over the top for my tastes"

WOW ya think? Its a game by Platinum Games. If you don't like their style then just stay away. Some people like the over the top style that doesn't take themselves to serious. (Pro Tip: Stay away from Lollipop Chainsaw)

EDIT - To each there own. IMHO I think (and many others) Bayonetta's combo system is way deeper than Ninja Gaiden and DMC, and I love those games. What you could do was insane. As far as "It was easily one of the worst stories from a video game I have ever seen", its a game that is not to be taken as serious like God of War or anything like that. Its over the top on purpose.
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Pintheshadows  +   1086d ago
I really like both DMC and Ninja Gaiden but I could not get along with Bayonetta. It just didn't do it for me. I'd take NG over it every day.
BlackTar187  +   1086d ago
shadows im with you im a huge hack and slash fan. I beat Bayonetta but i do not hold it anywhere close to some people to me it was way overrated and i guess just not for this Hack and Slash fan. I am a big fan too
Darrius Cole  +   1085d ago
I agree with Shadows, and Tar. Bayonetta was very good. However, it is not the perfection of combat that is Ninja Gaiden or the symphony of brutality, emotions, and storytelling that is God of War.

I disagree with Paz's assessment that Bayonetta plays perfectly. Bayonetta doesn't play perfectly it plays easily. If you wan't perfection play Ninja Sigma on Master Ninja mode, that's what perfect looks like.
kma2k  +   1086d ago
Im rigth there with you, i thought the game was good, but wasnt great by any standards.
emazzuca  +   1086d ago
Thank you!

I don't get the love for this game either,

It was painfully cheesy,

the action was good, not revolutionary by any means.

It was easily one of the worst stories from a video game I have ever seen, (and there are a lot of bad ones!)
Honky Kong  +   1086d ago
basically... you missed the point.
on topic "I always wanted to be a bald headed space marine."
Optical_Matrix  +   1086d ago
You don't play many hack n' slash action games then. Bayonetta had one of the most in depth and rewarding gameplay mechanics I've ever seen in an action game. Hideki Kamiya perfected the forumla he created with Devil May Cry in this game. The next game needs to have a better story and I'm good.

God of War III in my opinion was the better game. The art direction, voice acting and atmosphere is unmatched in the genre. Meanwhile, Bayonetta's combat system is the absolute perfection of action combat.
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Darrius Cole  +   1085d ago
I disagree with Matrix on the perfection of Bayonetta's combat system.

The defense system is too weak. It had bullet-time, that's what I've called it since Max Payne.

The combo system is too simple. Every combination of button presses is a combo.

That combines for a game that is too easy. I beat the game without learning a single combo.
PS3Freak  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta was real heavy on the cheese.
etownthree  +   1086d ago
I really really tried to like it...
Put at least 12 hours into the game..

But just lost all interest...

And damn did I hate that cheesy music during the fight scenes.

I'll take Ninja Garden any day over that pile of cheese
fossilfern  +   1086d ago
loved bayonetta! Its one of my highlights of this generation
bloodybutcher  +   1086d ago
i actually didn´t like bayo at all,i hated the main character and story.
Blackdeath_663  +   1086d ago
i agree, i dont see what the fuss is about. im starting to really really hate the japanesse games. annoying voice acting overly dramatic storylines wich come across most of the times as a bit generic or just wierd perverted games with insanely exagerrated body features like in soul calibur.

EDIT: i must note though that devil may cry3 is the best game ive ever played and still play today. my fav game till now.
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Daver  +   1086d ago
@cochise313

It was, thats my opinion too, I didnt like that game it felt ... not fun to me.
Sugreev2001  +   1086d ago
Yup,I found Bayonetta immensely overrated.People may have loved the sheer ridiculousness of the game world,characters and plot...but I just found it boring.For me,it's a game trying too hard to be "unique".I hope you understand what I'm trying to say here.
Megaton  +   1086d ago
I liked it, but yes, it's overrated. It suffers from Kamiya's signature design flaw of repeating boss battles, the one thing I didn't like about Okami.
The_Devil_Hunter  +   1086d ago
Disagree all you want but Bayonettas combat is the best of its genre. And here it comes.......yes better than GoW III
NeoBasch  +   1086d ago
Not going to disagree there. Bayonetta is on an entirely different level. The combat has yet to be surpassed... period. What many people don't realize is that it was also a great deal of fun. Non-stop action filled with some of the greatest satire to grace the medium. Bayo is just lovely.

However, God of War III is the better game. It had a better story, and completed the character cycle of the anti-hero Kratos. It's presentation was mesmerizing. The art-style was to die for and there was far more subtelty to the dialog and events that offered much to philosophy and psychology. God of War III is relevant beyond belief. The parallels astound, drawing upon abstraction in the form of suffering (how we all cause our own suffering).

Bayonetta doesn't offer any of this. Well, maybe a crazy art style, but that's it. And there's also the epic music of God of War.
LiViNgLeGaCY  +   1086d ago
Um, actually, that's your OPINION. I loved the combat of GOW III much, much better than Bayonetta.

Opinions are NOT facts. Please learn the difference.
Saladfax  +   1086d ago
Well, Devil's argument still holds a decent amount of weight, even if the word "best" isn't exactly the, erm... best word.

If he were to say highest complexity and depth, then yes, he would be correct. Whether or not everything else is something people prefer...

Bayonetta's combat is pure gold, but it's story/characters/everything else is a bit out there and not terribly accessible.
Darrius Cole  +   1085d ago
If he were to say "highest complexity and depth" then he still would be wrong because that would be Ninja Gaiden.
Saladfax  +   1085d ago
The physical number of fighting combinations make Bayonetta more complex and deep. It doesn't really have anything to do with difficulty.

Of course, Bayonetta is also a lot easier than NG, so it's possible to breeze through the game button-mashing without noticing all of the extra fancy moves.
tmoss726  +   1086d ago
Game sucked. Played the demo and was glad that was that.
gillri  +   1086d ago
nope game was amazing, hence its 90 metascore, which it got almost solely on its gameplay

I also played the demo and thought, ok I guess...and thats why we have review to tell you how good a game is

and to the person that thinks GOW3 had better gameplay than Bayonetta!!? No!!

@NeoBasch

completely, agree GOW3 is overall the better game, mainly because its atmopsheric and isnt weird like bayonetta is, or have awful diagloue or convoluted story. I mean you have to say..'well its japanese' (but thats its charm) but in terms of gameplay GOW3 falls quite a bit short of bayonetta

Bayonetta gameplay in terms of hack and slash is pretty much perfection
Marceles  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta had fun gameplay and a dope soundtrack, but by the end of the game I really didn't even care about the story at all. The game didn't live up to the hype it gained at launch time, but it was definitely a good action game.
StifflerK  +   1086d ago
I agree, for me Bayonetta was decent , but not one of my fav's.

The characters, story and that godawful music put me off.

People who enjoy the kitsch/camp humour would like the game a whole lot more, but it's just not for me.
Drekken  +   1085d ago
I hated Bayonetta. I forced myself to play it as long as I did. It loaded way too much... the dialog and cutscenes were corny. The combos and combat were cool, but the game itself made ruined it.

Way overrated - I would give it 6/10 on a good mood day.
trouble_bubble  +   1085d ago
Bayonetta is like commercial anime. You either foam at the mouth for teh speed lines and think pointy hair is the best thing ever, or you just feel dumber for having watched it. I'm in the latter.

Mega mucho combos mean squat to me when they're hooker boots coming out of the sky, hair dragons and bum butterflies. Yeah seeing Sarah Palin nekkid ruined gaming a little, but not in the way the article seems to think.
Spitfire_Riggz  +   1086d ago
How is Skyrim on that list? I think the author said he watched somebody play it for a while?
hazardman  +   1086d ago
I don't know how this got approved!!
Nakiro  +   1086d ago
It's there because he bought in to the hype... notice how all these games are quite recent.

hazardman - Yeah.. I know.
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cjflora  +   1086d ago
This article is missing Arkham Asylum and Arkham City. It's hard for me to enjoy other games after playing those. Especially the combat. I just got Battlefield 3 after beating Arkham City and I'm really having a tough time enjoying it because I'm not Batman kicking some ass.
capcock  +   1086d ago
it's not the games themselves who are ruining gaming it's what the publishers and developers are doing.
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FreydaWright  +   1086d ago
Very deep... Now, can you use this same philosophy to solve world hunger?
capcock  +   1085d ago
wtf
AKS  +   1086d ago
Setting new standards for quality in a genre hardly "ruined" gaming.

My choices would probably be the "Souls" games by From (incredible games) and Mario and Zelda (with the exception of Okami from Clover) platforming and adventure franchises. Much of this is simply due to the incredible talent and creativity behind those series. Also, the level of polish they put into those games is impeccable.

CoD 4 is more difficult for me to include because of what DICE's work since CoD 4. Although it was fantastic when it was released, the genre has hardly been stagnant since then; rather, I'd argue DICE's multiplayer in BF games has surpassed CoD 4. Some BF fans might argue that BF has always been the superior online multiplayer FPS franchise.
Rayansaki  +   1086d ago
On Bayonetta:

"Nothing in the genre since has stood up under the comparison."

Trololo except like 3 months later...

"OXM"

ah ok nevermind.
ZBlacktt  +   1086d ago
fail list is fail. No Metal Gear in there anywhere? Facepalm.
ShaunCameron  +   1086d ago
What do you expect? OXM, a magazine containing all things XBox 360, made the list.
frostypants  +   1086d ago
Metal Gear lost me at MGS2. The plot lines got just too convoluted for me to care, and I know I'm not alone.
FreydaWright  +   1085d ago
Well, you're missing out on MGS3 and Peace Walker, which are both arguably the best in the series.
Tommykrem  +   1085d ago
You're not a lone! You're all missing out together!
J-Killer15  +   1086d ago
Games today are too much about delivering cinematic experiences. Bayonetta was about stylish action. At the end of the day that's all I care about.
ShaunCameron  +   1086d ago
My sentiments exactly. Fanfare notwithstanding, the first half of 2012 is gonna be a good year for me with Blades Of Time, Lollipop Chainsaw, Asura's Wrath and Onechanbara Z Kagura (if it gets a North America release date) coming out.
Erudito87  +   1086d ago
Wasn't a fan of bayanetta you didnt really feel the impact of attacks you made maybe it was just me. lol and skyrim will make me disapear from existence for a month or so
BrightFalls76  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta is one of my top titles this generation, I had so much fun all the way through. The possible sequel has me very excited:)
maniacmayhem  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta was probably one of the best action game i played for this gen.

It easily overthrew GoW as hack and slash goodness. Any game where you play ping pong with a missile or punch a god boss in the face mid sentence is damn awesome.

would really like a part 2 to this game and Vanquish.
Darrius Cole  +   1085d ago
Wait a minute.....

You say that Bayonetta over GOW as hack and slash goodness and then in the next sentence give Bayonetta props for punching a god....

You don't see the irony in that?

Kratos the the undisputed king god-abuse. He has run out gods. People are saying that they can't make another GOW game because there aren't any gods left.

Bayonetta impressed you when she punched what god that was in her game.
maniacmayhem  +   1085d ago
What irony do you see exactly?

there was a boss fight in bayonetta where this huge angelic/god like boss was giving a speech about whatever and bayonetta punches him in the face mid sentence...i dont know if i can explain it any better if u havent played the game. The humor and action was way over the top and that's what i loved about it.

kratos can still mess with the norse, egyption, japanese, india, mayan, etc., etc., gods. there's plenty of gods left.
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Tommykrem  +   1086d ago
I don't actually have Bayonetta, but I tried the demo and hated it. It's really strange, I usually don't hate games just based on the demo and I'm sure it actually is pretty good, but there was something about the design that just nauseated me. (feel free to disagree all you want, I know this is weird)

Anyone feel the same with this game?
DigitalAnalog  +   1085d ago
It sounds like the PS3 version.
I bought it on the 360 and it runs beautifully on 720p 60fps. Don't let the demo fool you, the game has a lot of insane moments that's just way over-the-top. Combat is a lot of fun and in some moments, reminds me of epic set pieces of ninja gaiden.

I mean, look at his extremely impressive resume which such as:

Director of Resident Evil 2, Okami, Devil May Cry and Viewtiful Joe.
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Tommykrem  +   1085d ago
No, it has nothing to do with how it runs, and little to do with how I plays. I just care nothing for how it looks and feels. It's probably deeply rooted in my childhood or some other semi-mental thing, but I just cant stand that game.

No offense, though. I don't blame others for liking it. And I love DMC, Okami and respect the people behind the game.
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Tex117  +   1086d ago
I immediately thought the Souls games.
WitWolfy  +   1086d ago
I thought of Gutiar Hero 2 for some weird reason
Balcrist  +   1086d ago
Refuse to believe that this article is legit in any way, shape, or form. Just some guy fanboy-ing over his favorite games. You can tell by that fact they he puts bayonetta at number 1.... Realy? regaurdless of whether it was a good game or not, i don't think it was good enough to "ruin gaming"....

Reason #2 he's just a fanboy is that there is a COD game on the list... each new COD game is the same as the last except for a slightly different campain, and new multi-player maps/weapons...Black Ops looks like it was made for my dusty ps2...

Reason #3 he's just a fanboy is that Skyrim is on this list... Don't get me wrong, I love Skyrim and I think it's gonna be awesome,but putting it on such a list before it even comes out is just stupid, at least wait untill it comes out so that you can justify it....
tickticktick  +   1086d ago
How does something good ruin anything?
Saladfax  +   1086d ago
It's hyperbole. The supposition is the same as that of eating a $75 steak: the shoulder meat you cook at home doesn't really compare.

You play a really good game which leaves you feeling amazed, wonderful, and just plain good... well, it can be tricky follow that act up.
BlueEye  +   1086d ago
Think they should have added Final Fantasy VII
TABSF  +   1086d ago
Are you kidding me? Seriously?

I can only agree with Skyrim
Suicide  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta >> God of War 3

The cold hard truth
seinfan  +   1086d ago
beer >> liquor
Silly gameAr  +   1086d ago
Glad you feel the need to state your opinion as a fact. I have both, and the games are so different from each other, that I'm not sure why people are so gung ho to compare them.

Anyway, I think Bayonetta and Devil May Cry would be a much better comparison.

The list is as subjective as your opinion though. There are a couple that I don't agree with, but everyone has their taste. Probably best not to force your opinion on others though.
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HellzAssassin  +   1086d ago
Finally, someone who agrees with me. I've had a discussion way back on another forum stating that GoW and Bayonetta are two completely different games.... Regarding the genre itself, the only games I would truly classify in that genre would be Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta and Devil May Cry. They're all strictly about stylish action, and comparing their combat styles to the likes of God Of War, Castlevania: LoS, Dante's Inferno, or any other Action/Adventure games is like comparing apples and oranges...
Inception  +   1086d ago
I agree as well. In the old days, i don't saw gamers have this..."extreme" behavior to comparing games and called one of them are the best while the other are junk. A lot of my friend even don't care who's the best between Sonic and Mario. We just had fun with the games no matter what console we're playing. Darn, i really missed the old days >.<
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ShaunCameron  +   1086d ago
Not really. But it was definitely better than DMC4.
LiViNgLeGaCY  +   1086d ago
@Suicide

No.

Cold hard opinion is more like it.
gamer7804  +   1086d ago
Bayonetta was my favorite new ip of the last few years, and probably favorite hack n slash this generation. Storytelling aside, the gameplay mechanics were incredible.
Adropacrich2  +   1086d ago
It's easy to hate on Bayonetta for all the wierdness that it is but the incredibly deep combat does border on perfection. Those that slag on it wont have a clue because they wont have played it long enough to know this. It's a bit like if someone said they'd completed Street Fighter with some characters and were done and bored with it at that point. Play it once or even twice through and still you are only scratching at the surface of th absurdly deep combat design

Like many here i thought the game what utter shit and slammed it but i was exceptionally wrong. The trouble is that people don't back down from their opinion on things. Despite the game being accepted by media generally that it was exceptional, people for the most just didn't gell to the theme and as a result offer what are ill opinions now

Yes the general theme ie characters, music and story may not do it for some of you lot, but to write it off as shallow or not particularly revolutionary shows just how very little you know of the game
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Saladfax  +   1086d ago
Eh, don't forget that not everyone necessarily cares that kind of depth in hack n' slashers. Depending upon how much one needs to know and practice in order to succeed, it can create a bit of a barrier for entry.

DMC3 is pretty tricky at first before you get into the swing of things. I'd wager a large number of individuals didn't give it a fair shake due to that.
trouble_bubble  +   1085d ago
"Yes the general theme ie characters, music and story may not do it for some of you..."

You could've saved yourself 3 paragraphs if you'd just stopped there.

Could've also added weird enemies, gimmicky anime combat and an overly sexualised lead that still somehow finds a way to be revolting. Just cuz they got 1 spice right, didn't stop the game from tasting like cheese.
SeraphimBlade  +   1086d ago
For me, smash bros. was so good it ruined gaming. Or at least fighting games. It was so much fun just playing this as a kid, I never really gave myself the chance to grasp "legit" fighting games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. What is this "combo" you speak of?
majiebeast  +   1086d ago
I know its not everyone's favourite game but wow destroyed the mmorpg genre as in almost no new mmo stands a chance in terms of content and polish.
segamon  +   1086d ago
good list and well written.
Genki  +   1086d ago
This is one of the better lists I've seen lately, although I think it should include more games.

One game that immediately comes to mind when I think of ruining other games is Starcraft, and I'm shocked that it wasn't included at all. I have never been able to play another RTS without referring back to the original SC, and even as good as SC2 is, I still find myself longing for many aspects of the original.

Whatever the case, bravo for creating a better list than the all too common "Top 10 best most awesomest nonsense we've heard too many times".
OmegaGunner  +   1086d ago
For current gen games I agree with Mass Effect 2 completely.

To me Mass Effect 2 is the perfect action RPG and the type of game I used to dream about playing back when I was grinding through Phantasy Star II on my old Genny back in the day.

As far as past generations as others have mentioned I would go with these games :

Super Metroid = the perfect 2-D action platformer

Starcraft = the perfect RTS game

Dead Space = the perfect 3rd person shooter/horror game (single player)

God of War III = the perfect hack n slash game.

Metal Gear Solid 4 = the perfect espionage spy thriller / kicks ass in all types of ways game

These games did not "ruin" gaming. they just made it so that every other game in the same genre will always be compared to them and rarely meet expectations.
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SuperStrokey1123  +   1085d ago
Some solid games there i agree.

I would add FF6 or Chrono Trigger to that list as well.
edonus  +   1086d ago
Ninja Gaiden and Bayonetta are my favorites of the hack and slash games. But nothing can touch Ninja Gaiden.

Bayonetta felt good because it had such a fluent luid combat system. Over the top moves being chained together smoothly in a crisp way. It was great.

But no game makes you feel the power of your attacks like ninja gaiden. When you play NG you are not on button mash auto pilot, the moves are really your doing them. When you pull off that air grab spinning drop salm thats like 3-4 different actions you are doing to make that happen. Each waepon has a true feel to it, NG is actually a really great series. I think it doesnt get enough props.
InTheLab  +   1086d ago
You have to be pretty heavy into anime to consider Bayonetta the best anything. The combat was the only good thing about that game. Everything else was garbage.

And Dark Souls? Great game but way to screw over the game that started it all.
Kahvipannu  +   1086d ago
Oh man, I had forgotten Bayonetta totally... I have to get it asap, it can be bought for dirt cheap now propably.

Do I remember right that the framerate issues got patched later with PS3 version, or are they still there? Not a big deal, but would be nice to know.
mamotte  +   1086d ago
Aside from COD4, the list shoul be called "games so good of this gen". I've played better, long time ago. For example, Chrno Trigger and Golden Sun (and please remember this is just my opinion) ruined all other RPG's to me.
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