GameBlurb, "The big boss over at Nintendo defends the Wii against the claims that it wasn't created for hardcore gamers...His response may actually surprise you."
So... Nintendo stumbled onto their fortunes, as of late? They thought they could capture the hardcore with Wii Sports and Wii Fit? That's not exactly reassuring.
Yep I don't know what to say here. Really odd when even their next console seems to be something where they are targeting casuals as well..
I think its pretty safe to say no company can rely on casuals. Its the hardcore that matters. Casuals may buy your system once and a few copies of games however what they will not do is buy 1-2 games every month, this is exactly what the hardcore gamer does. Hence they might have sold 70-80million consoles however most of their base isnt buying games. The console business largely depends on software sold if that is not happening they will run into trouble. This should be a lesson for MS and Sony as well do not ignore the hardcore base in favor of the casuals. Hell it even applies to developers who try to dumb games down just to cater to a wider audience.
Nintendo even said the wii wasnt competing with the PS3/360 and going for a different crowd. I don't know how to perceive that now.
did you read the article? Even I was casual at one point, but guess what i became a Hardcore gamer somewhere between my SNES, Genesis, and N64 and I started buying more games. So I think it's like I said: Wii is this generation's NES and the WiiU is set to be this generation's SNES
I blame Nintendo of America and there statistical mindset on what the company should do. Very similiar to Kinect, where they look at charts and say "What game can we make to sell millions" and even if the idea is totally a fail for the core gamer, they push that cause it will sell. And whats sad is games like Xenoblade and Last Story get the shaft over here in the States. I really wish NoA wasn't able to make decisions. I really don't like Reggie or Cammy either.
NoA is at fault for Xenoblade and Last Story... but thats about it. I cannot blame them for the company's mindset. They were given a product, and they marketed this product the best way that they knew how. But yea, Reggie and Cammy just come across as the slimy, fake, executive types that never seem to have a clue.
If you guys remember the Wii's reveal, they actually showed off very many "core gamer" games along side casual: http://www.youtube.com/watc... And because casual I'm assuming yielded more profitable for them at the time, it inevitably became the direction of the console.
That didn't look any different from what they were doing now,at Iwata.
"They thought they could capture the hardcore with Wii Sports and Wii Fit? " So...having 2 games aimed at a different demograph means everything else that follows is not meant for the HAWRDKWORE gamer?
Did they release Wii-ternal Darkness yet? I must have missed it... Also, I think you, perhaps, missed the point.
I didn't miss any point. Hardcore doesn't even have a solid definition. Every time a developer uses that awful word it just feels like he sold his soul to the devil. I find a game of tetris far more hardcore than call of duty.
well, you can't always get what you want.
But if you try sometimes... you just might find, you get what you need.
LOL Meaning they saw how much money the casual audience could give them and went long that path instead Basicaly there trying to say their sell outs
and bobby didnt beat whitney......
just like sony didnt intend to get hacked.
Just like you tried to do a witty retort but ended up babbling irrelevant shit.
dang the ps3 fans jumped on your disagree wagon fast lol
yea i knew they wouldn't like it. But I only post facts.
A fact is fine, but it didn't flow with the original comment. Hence why you got the disagrees. Has nothing to do with fanboys, and everything to do with an ignorant post.
ignorant reply to an ignorant comment...welcome to the internetz!
N is now and forever will be a "family friendly" game company. Anyone who thinks that they will ever come out with a hard core blood and violence gaming machine to compete with MS and Sony are fooling themselves. They don't care about that. They care about making money.
Hardcore gaming doesn't mean "blood and violence gaming." Unless of course you're 13 years old or something, in which case never mind me.
I know. I'm just saying tho many people that think hard core gaming think that way. Halo, Starcraft, ect. It's all war and weapon based stuff. Funny though how you related 13 year olds to blood and violence. Sadly it's very true.
They have always been a 'family friendly' game company, but they've still had mature games on their consoles as well.
So there are companies that doesnt care about making money? What do you think Sony and MS are doing? Donations?
lol he said Hardcore blood and violence. That does not make a game hardcore lol. Silly elitist. By that logic Elfen Lied is a Hardcore anime, eating medium rare steak is hardcore eating, Saw is a Hardcore movie series, and getting a nosebleed is a hardcore medical condition. See what I did there?
...now, if you excuse me, I'll take your ideas and make some demotivational posters. +1 funny bubble for you, sir.
wow the lack of games really contradicts that lol so it just happened really? that nub addon for the 3ds just happened too you guys were awesome with the super nintendo now you are just a confidence scam preying on parents who want to buy a present for their kids on eid christmas or on their birthday! shame on you!
I am confused. Didn't Nintendo themselves say that they were going for a more casual audience? Isn't that what they were going for when the made Raving Rabbits, Wii Sports, Carnival games and Wiifit? Did they think the Halo, GTA, Killzone, Uncharted, BF3, GOW and Gears crowd would have dropped everything to play their games. If so then Nintendo is either very naive or not very smart. Or a bunch of liars. They literally started this whole 'casual' gamer trend and are now blatantly denying it.
I think that's a third party who made lots and lots of showelware for Ninty.. and they let do it.. but still I blame third party with barbie, baby and other bad products..
If Nintendo didn't try to make the Wii casual, then they've got no idea what core gamers want. If they did, then they're liars. So which is it, Nintendo? Are you idiots, or do you think we're idiots?
with the announcement of the wii-u i think its both
so they admit they failed horribly at their goal and stumbled into success of a casual market
No one read the article? Cause i would love to see where he said those exact words.
Well this is N4G, most people just read the header and think up something funny, though as you can see it's largely hit and miss ;D
This article didn't quote what he said it but you can check out IGN's article which has the quote. http://uk.wii.ign.com/artic...
They never intended for it to be casual but they brought out the wii-mote as it's main controller? Yea i refuse to believe that.
That statement makes no sense. Isn't shooters the hot new thing this gen that you "Hardcore" swear by? Even Sony agreed that a Wiimote is great for shooters, just look at the Move. Also Zelda Skyward Sword pretty much will be a hardcore experience with a wiimote and the follow games are hardcore and use the Wiimote in ways that bettered them: Goldeneye 007 Tenchu Shadow Assassins RedSteel 2 No More Heroes 1 and 2 Madworld The conduit Metroid Prime 3 Metroid other M Cursed Mountain Silent Hill Shattered Memories Resident Evil Darkside Chronicles and many other games
My point is that the wii-mote is the default controller. It's the controller you get when you buy the console. That is what you're going to play most of your games with. Yes, the move works well in fps but If the move wasn't released it would not have been a problem becasue they have the dualshock 3. That's the default controller and is the controller that the majority of gamers use for fps on the PS3. Also just because the move is good for fps's doesn't mean that the wiimote is. You mentioned Goldeneye 007 which as far as i know doesn't support motion controls on the wii while the PS3 port is move compatible. They're both motion controllers but the move is more accurate I don't even play fps. I like racing games,fighting games, rpg'S etc.. and some of those are useless on the wiimote. Tatsunoku vs capcom had to have a simplified control scheme for the wiimote. You needed the classic controller or gamecube controller to play properly. If the wii wasn't intended to be casual then they should have tossed in the classic pro controller to cover their backs.
The Wiimote is great for aiming, but not necessarily great for shooters. Precision is worlds better with analog sticks, not to mention firing (and everything else) is more natural with strategically-placed shoulder buttons--something the Wiimote lacks. As for your list of games, I haven't played many of them, but Metroit: Other M suffered from it's motion controls--it didn't benefit from them. If that's what you consider an improvement I have to doubt your opinion on the rest of the games.
If Reggie had said this, and not Iwata, nobody would be defending him. To his credit, Iwata is really bad at "playing dumb". He said himself that the Wii would not be competing directly with the PS360... and it didn't. "Nobody is born a hardcore gamer"... really? I admit that i didn't come out of the womb with 100 Skulltulas, however, i have had the hardcore "itch" since the 8 bit days. I never needed a "casual" title to transition me into/from Super Mario Bros. to Super Mario Bros. 3, or from The Legend of Zelda to Zelda 2 Adveture of Link. Those were simply the games that appealed to me from day 1.
The first time you play a game, do you understand the controls? It takes, "getting use to", and the Wii was meant to turn non-gamers into common ones.
yeah it was never intended to be casual, but Nintendo rested on their laurels and thought just because they are selling by the bucket load they wont bother to improve anything. (there are some excellent games on wii but far too few.) that's why they are having trouble getting people interested in the Wii U, they thought " oh lets make some funky new controller and people will just lap it up". as for the wii turning non gamers in to gamers you didn't need a wii to do that any console could do that (gba, ds, ps3, 360 ect). most of the non gamers who bought a wii never gamed on another system ever (and the wii gathered dust under their TV's).
So they actually thought Wii fit and sports were hardcore titles...imagine if they where "actually" aiming for casual, titles like this would be all over the wii. Super Mario bros baby's ultimate bathtub bubble contest The legend of Zelda: Link on changing diapers. Wii Sports Newbie edition and so on...
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