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Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception Review - avclub

Gamers are a story-starved lot. Case in point: the success of 2009’s Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. Its zippy storyline and witty, conflicted characters proved potent enough to make gamers forgive what were, even then, outdated gameplay mechanics.

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disturbing_flame1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Clearly.

Actually if he played the game he would know that this game is harder than Gears of War 3, a game they gave an A. A game where you play less and is harder, really ? Not.
This is just click oriented and very short and poor review...

I've finished U3 so i can tell; this review is clearly not realiable and actually is this really a review ? It looks like they just wanted to destroy U3 before playing it.

Really sad to see such hatred, anyway it's internet.

People who will play the game are going to understand how much this review is funny.

xPhearR3dx1703d ago

Who are you to say which game is harder? It's all about the person who's playing. Some find Uncharted easier, some find Gears easier. Depends on how good you are at each game.

Shanks1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

I really don't understand this, it's the same reviewer that gave Uncharted 2 an A (perfect score). And now he's giving Uncharted 3 a C? I'm currently half way through Uncharted 3 and I can safely say that it's the best game i've played this gen and I didn't even finish it yet. The ship graveyard level was simply breathtaking.

disturbing_flame1703d ago

I've played both games so i can tell.

Gears 3 is really easier than Gears 1 or 2.

Uncharted 3 is by far harder than U2 and the game is harder than Gears 3. It's not the quality of the player that can tell you this, it's just facts.

This review is saying that we don't play so much in U3 whereas the gunfights are clearly rising till the end to a great climax, and if we compare to other AAA games like gears 3 we can say that U3 is harder, it's a bit strange for a game that you "only watch".

Anyway if people found Gears 3 hard, i can't say to them it is not, i would just ask them if they played gears 1 & 2.

xPhearR3dx1703d ago

@disturbing_flame

Just because you've played both doesn't make your opinion a fact.

If I completely sucked ass at Gears of War 3 and was amazing at Uncharted 3, which game do you think is going to be harder? Some people find Demon's Souls harder than Dark Souls. I couldn't get anywhere in Demon's Souls, but I think Dark Souls is easy as hell.

A games difficulty isn't a fact, it's an opinion based on the player.

kaveti66161703d ago

"Uncharted 3 is by far harder than U2 and the game is harder than Gears 3. It's not the quality of the player that can tell you this, it's just facts."

"it's just facts"

"facts"

No, it's not a fact. And the sooner you learned the difference, the better off you'll be in life.

nix1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

for your pathetic attempt to get hits, i give you C/A.

*clicks on "avclub.com +"
*Story Quality - WTF?*
*Like this website - NO*

CIAO.

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da_2pacalypse1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

seems legit lol (sarcasm)

IrishAssa1703d ago

Uncharted games are harder than Gears ones Imo. Single player wise. Multi it depends on the player

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Dee_911703d ago

Dont give them hit
I posted the Whole article below
so you can read that instead of feeding those trolls.

sjaakiejj1703d ago

@xPhearR3dx

While I agree with the point you're trying to convey, Fact and Opinion are _not_ mutually exclusive. The fact that they can overlap (e.g. your opinion might be that a person is very tall, and if he's 8 feet tall, then he's also tall by fact) means that they're not mutually exclusive at all.

DatNJDom811703d ago

Haters gonna hate. This was expected. Nothing to see here move along.

come_at_me_bro1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Wow is this really what this site is coming to? Semantic debates and objective/subjective arguments over game difficulty and descriptions of HEIGHT?

I clicked this review to see if there was a possible counterargument to Uncharted 3's hype. It's always stimulating when someone offers a valid opposing opinion to a critical darling. The keyword there is VALID of course. This review is just gutter trash.

In the first paragraph this guy establishes some sort of condescending dichotomy that only stupid people (annoyingly generalized to just "gamers") liked Uncharted 2 and smart ones saw right through its "illusion". If you're going to write something so utterly idiotic, at least back it up with more content than a thirteen year old girl's livejournal entry.

badz1491703d ago

instant fail right there! could they just PLEASE post a link of ANY review for Uncharted 2 where people complain about this *OUTDATED* thing?

I bet if they do, it stinks because they pulled it straight from their asses!

if outdated gameplay mechanics is what you're after, go look for RE5 for example, not trolling Uncharted 3 damn it!

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nycredude1703d ago

Rhear and Kave

Please guys disturbing flame said that he played both games already, and unless he is lyinig or both of you have finished both games also, I would say he would know more about which game is harder than both of you. So unless you both played both games, which I assume you haven't, please just leave.

Kurt Russell1703d ago

When a review is so far removed from other reviews of the same subject, I tend to assume it is a poor review :/

xer01703d ago

I'm going vote down this site... seeing as it's clearly fishing for hits.

Boody-Bandit1702d ago (Edited 1702d ago )

The saddest part is people always use metacritic as a point of reference yet they cherry pick what reviews they allow into their average. Meta couldn't add this horrid review fast enough to UC3 overall score. There have been dozen of better written reviews than this garbage and meta turns a blind eye to those sources.

Metacritic is worse than this trash review. I am calling it a trash review because it has next to no substance, non informative and read like a fanboy rant looking to entice people to give them attention.

Well they have succeeded at that and only that.
Anyone that agrees with this review is just a hater and nothing more. What a waste of bandwidth and a slap in the face of a developer like Naughty Dog that is one of the few left that put so much time, money and thought into their craft instead of relying on rehashing low budget projects and placing their real efforts into marketing and PR departments.

If garbage like this becomes accepted in this industry all are going to start taking the easy way out and we will be left with nothing but rinse and repeat titles with no innovation or ingenuity.

Personally I will always choose quality over PR and marketing. These devs and publishers have to earn my money or else it's Gamefly. UC3 is a 1st day must buy no brainer for me.

Oh and as far as Gears 3... I didn't play UC3 yet but I will tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt Gears 3 was the easiest one in the series so far. I played it on hardcore out of the gate and I was shocked and how I blew through it. Epic went on record saying they were making it easier for the masses so I don't know why this point is even being argued.

Check my profile for those that think I haven't played it. XBL - BoodyBandit

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miyamoto1703d ago

dont feed these trolls & their sites. we have better things to do & spend our time on...like play and enjoy games like Uncharted 3.

axerated1703d ago

Guess that 'controversial' eurogamer review isn't such big news anymore..
Step aside eurogamer, there's a new 'controversial' review in town...

gamingdroid1703d ago

I find it ironic though, because people will go in and disagree only to have the story get even more heated so more people look at it.

Philoctetes1703d ago

"Outdated gameplay mechanics" in Uncharte 2? Really? Well, that tells me everything I need to know about the AV Club and how much weight I should put on their opinion.

Not giving this one a hit. Sorry.

artynerd1703d ago

Gotta say, I have to agree with AV Club on this.

SOOOOOOOOO many gamers will forgive a GAME of horrendous GAMEPLAY as long as the graphics and sound are top-notch. This isn't a film, this is a GAME. How does it PLAY?

I know most people here will disagree, but strip away the gorgeous visuals and outstanding sound and voicework and what kind of GAME is Uncharted? Mediocre at best - dated gameplay mechanics, puzzles that solve themselves, terrible hit detection, extremely linear, and completely retarded AI.

Don't get me wrong, considering how great Uncharted 2 looked and sounded, I still enjoyed the game, but graphics have come A LONG WAY since Uncharted 2. Heck, Arkham City looks quite a bit better than UC2 but you can actually freely roam around the city, unlike the extremely linear levels of Uncharted 2.

MsclMexican1703d ago TrollingShowReplies(6)
Kran1703d ago

Obviously the wrong kind ;P People are only gonna troll him.

Jamzluminati1703d ago

Trolling ain't easy but some people get away with it. Like me.

TKCMuzzer1703d ago

Your bubbles would indicate otherwise.

Jamzluminati1703d ago

ROFLMFAO!!!! If I had one bubble it would make more sense. Try harder.

Motorola1703d ago

Try replying right now. See? He just unknowingly trolled YOU.

Dante1121703d ago

Damn, AVC just trolled PS3 owners hard. A C is like a 5/10 on metacritic lol.

iamnsuperman1703d ago

Metacritic gives some reviews more weight. Lets hope they read the review. This review shouldn;t be counted purely because it is very brief and not very explanatory and also misses out half of the product.

rob60211703d ago

I noticed this, AVclub has an unusual amount of weight on metacritic when they score something in the B-F range.
FF13 has a 42 on meta from them for a C-.. ? It seems there's a disconnect from them thinking what a 'C' should be, and what the rest of the media thinks is a C. For something like metacritic you need as much consistency as possible, and AVclub really doesn't belong there, until they fix what A-F equal.

Parapraxis1703d ago

Dont forget to hit the "+" next to avclub.com up top, give their site feedback, if were lucky they will get filtered out which in the end means less hits for them.

Score aside, this is a painfully bad score, and for that I cast scorn on the site.

Boody-Bandit1702d ago (Edited 1702d ago )

That "+" at the top of the articles hold no weight with N4G owners and moderators. If it did sites like VGChartz would've been filtered long ago. Do you know how many N4G members claimed they were hitting that "+" yet their articles still remain.

If anything N4G uses that to further fuel this site. This "review" from AVClub isn't even a review. It's just a couple of random paragraphs yet it's not only allowed here but factored into metacritics overall average. What a joke. I put zero weight into almost any gaming site on the net today. All of them troll to some degree but this is down right rancid.

Blacktric1703d ago

This piece of 30 line crap is called a review? Most of the time, when some game gets a bad score and someone says "LOOKING FOR HITS", I always approach the article skeptical and read it without randomly agreeing with the person who said it. But this... this is a travesty at best. True flamebait. You can't call this crap a review.

Dee_911703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

"Gamers are a story-starved lot. Case in point: the success of 2009’s Uncharted 2: Among Thieves. Its zippy storyline and witty, conflicted characters proved potent enough to make gamers forgive what were, even then, outdated gameplay mechanics.

In Uncharted 3: Drake’s Deception, the story still zips and characters are still conflicted, but targeting is as twitchy as ever, bad guys still require three or four shotgun blasts to the head before they’re deterred, and the game’s star, Nathan Drake, still has no clue whatsoever about how to crouch. Two years after Thieves, Uncharted’s gameplay mechanics and conventions are no longer dated; they’re borderline archaic.

Drake and sidekick Victor Sullivan cross deserts, seas, and continents in search of “the Atlantis of the desert.” The game’s dialogue, written by series writer Amy Hennig, is often funny and poignant. In one cutscene, Drake and an ex discuss their failed marriage; a running joke involves Sullivan saying things which sound dirty out of context. Yet the narrative beats are more familiar this time. Tombs are plundered, treasures are discovered, and moments later, villains arrive as usual to claim said treasures. Impressive setpieces punctuate the game—most memorably, Drake must escape from a sinking ocean liner. Yet these moments somehow always feel shoehorned into the experience, as if developer Naughty Dog concocted them in advance, then built the rest of the game around them.

Much would be forgiven if the gameplay weren’t so woefully faulty. Creeping up on a goon for a stealth kill can result in Drake inadvertently performing a somersault—ta-dah!—into the goon’s backside. Drake moves like a staggering stew-bum, and as a result, cheap, undeserved deaths abound. The fuzzy mechanics also hamper the game’s superfluous multiplayer, which gamers will likely flock to for a few nights before returning to the more reliable confines of Black Ops and Halo.

Uncharted 3 shows more people and more places, but tells players less. Gamers felt like they knew Nathan Drake at the end of Uncharted 2, at least a little. But by the closing moments of Uncharted 3, after spending 12 or so hours in his shoes, players somehow wind up knowing even less about him than they did at the game’s beginning. "

Discuss
Basically since he dont know how to play that means the game is bad i guess

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You know its a crap review if I can copy the whole thing paste it in comment section and still have enough space to make this comment lol.

ASTAROTH1703d ago TrollingShow
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DiRtY1703d ago

@astaroth
So u r a 360 fanboy for saying the review is just an opinion? Oh dear...

Ultraplayerxp1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Well, for starters, I'd appreciate some professionalism from reviews, even if they are just opinions. This reads like something I'd write if I rushed a book report in 6th grade. There are hasty generalizations everywhere, and none of them get explained too. I get more info reading a Greg Miller review than I could ever get reading this using a microscope. God, spoilers too. I knew there would be but really, if you need to resort to spoiling the game this much to get your point across then you need to get better at wording things. Thank God I stopped at the *SPOILER* "marriage" *END* bit before I did something I'd regret. Thanks AV club, not only did you piss me off with this poor review, you gave me a spoiler I wish I could forget. This review sucks.

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callahan091703d ago

Absolutely BULLSHIT. I have the game, I got it early from the AMC Play First in 3D event a couple of weeks ago (shipped FedEx, arrived on Thursday this week).

The game is brilliant.

The story and presentation are second to none, the graphics are amazing, the new melee combat is beyond fun to play with (and not to mention so dynamic and context-sensitive, there are dozens upon dozens of different attacks that can occur during a melee brawl), there is some more "graphic adventure" type of elements in the beginning that I feel are inspired by Heavy Rain and incorporated in a brilliant way... The set pieces are brilliantly executed and exciting to play, the technical qualities of the game are worthy of the highest praise (including the most brilliant use of 3D in a console game to date). The battles are more organic and realistic in this game than in the first 2. It's not just "waves of enemies" that keep coming seemingly out of nowhere and for no reason... You don't get that sense that the battles are just drawn out for the sake of length or difficulty. They are perfectly directed and the timing of everything is just perfect.

This game is a masterpiece. To deny that is unfair to the game, the developer, and the reviewers who you are convincing not to play it.

callahan091703d ago

Single-handedly dropped Metacritic score from 94 to 93, and it goes on Metacritic as a 50.

Are these guys SERIOUS? A 50% score for Uncharted 3? You have to just be completely ignorant to say that. It's not an opinion. They're wrong. It's a fact that the qualities of this game make it deserve a better score. They are completely being disingenuous to their readers to over-criticize the game like this and to just ignore all of the technical qualities, the creative qualities, and the objective gameplay and design qualities that make this a brilliantly made game and an incredibly enjoyable and epic adventure.

a4114111702d ago (Edited 1702d ago )

Have you noticed that the A.V. Club was the FIRST site to score Gears 3 a 100 on Metacritic and the LAST site to score Uncharted 3 a 50. Click the links Below check the site out and tell me what you think.

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

http://www.metacritic.com/g...

solar1703d ago

oh man, this is gonna be epic. hope this guy doesnt get his house burnt to the ground over this.

GarandShooter1703d ago

Well, at least not with his family in it. Unless of course they had something to do with this review.

************DISCLAIMER******* *****

This is just a joke, I do not condone violence against reviewers, or their families, in any way, shape, or form.

Tg27081703d ago

while i totally agree with you its just an opinion whether bullshit or not its how he sees the game. I hate to admit that was pretty pissed when gamefront gave arkham city a 72 I said the same thing as you, but compared to the other glowing reviews it hot i could not truly complain. People only see his score as bs because of the other great reviews. I have played a good amount of games that score high on metacritic and i did not like them as much as the reviewer so my score will be different.

forevercloud30001703d ago

I have been playing U3 for the past few days(got an early copy due to going to the U3 even in DC last week) and I can tell you this game is nothing less than stellar.

The Story is definitely the center pillar of this game but the gameplay has definitely stepped it up a notch. The game now has a fully realized fighting/gunplay mechanic that has you feeling like you are really in a blockbuster action flick(which is what this game aims to be). There are just so many different ways to take out enemies now, all of them fueling you with bloodlust. Oh and there are more puzzles to break up the monotony of the gunfights. Its just does a very nice blend of gameplay types that may be a bit formulaic when u take a step back but still very much so exciting...

Story > Fight > Chase > Puzzle > Story
Never a dull moment though.

Rainstorm811703d ago

Exactly....everyone do yourselves a favor click the small plus next to the website name, and vote accordingly

Angerfist1703d ago

Or having a different Opinion perhaps, just a thought.............

jdfoster1703d ago

lmfao... Worst review I have seen in years. This isn't a review... I can't explain what it is. It's so short and so unprofessional....

evilunklebud1703d ago

Don't know if the onion needs to look for hits....

I usually agree with them, but I'm sure this time will be different.

zeddy1703d ago

"how can we get hits?" give uncharted a shitty review.

spicelicka1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

The reviewer is only right about the gameplay mechanics, they're really not that great. But i think where the game is good, such as the cinematics and set pieces, it's beyond amazing which makes up for the gameplay mechanics.
I personally enjoy gears 3 more simply because the gameplay is visceral and solid fun, plus i find the world more intriguing.

Gears focuses on gunplay and combat
Uncharted focuses on adventure and cinematics

^maybe i didn't use the perfect choice of words above^ but that's basically what it boils down to.

CryofSilence1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Indeed it is a hit-seeking "review." Get it removed by reporting it.

Edit: Oh, and to be true to my original statement in another thread, this guy (the "reviewer") doesn't deserve to play games.

Also, look at their recent games; Ratchet and Clank, a good game by all means, gets a B+, but Uncharted 3, a universally acclaimed game gets a score on par with Burnout: Crash? Ridiculous.

perdie1703d ago

i like how they give Brutal Legend a 100 but give this a c. Nice

Papertiger1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Interesting fact:

A.V. club reviewer Scott Jones, runs a gaming show that shows on canadas G4 network called "reviews on the run"

he's stated on the show that he only uses ps3 as a "blu-ray player" and nothing else.

The fact that this type of person was the one to award uncharted 3 its lower score to date is quite telling. Shit like this makes the gaming industry quite a sad state. Developers put their hard work and dedication into a game for its fanbase, and it gets thrashed and ripped to pieces by some fanboy with a big enough platform to get on metacritic.

Its just sad.

http://twitter.com/#!/Scott...

Cosmit1703d ago

Half of the people on N4G are straight up morons. -_-. NOT COOL.

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aquamala1702d ago

Ps3 fanboys are so sensitive about their exclusives, I have a ps3 too and will get uc3 but why should I care about these scores?

aviator1891703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Personally, I don't take reviews from the av club to the heart much, but it's a review nonetheless. However, it doesn't seem to go in-depth at all, very short.

cobblestone191703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

I agree.
Want to point out a couple of things: Here on N4G Uncharted 3 has 86 reviews. http://n4g.com/channel/unch...
Five 8's and One 7.

This AV Club is on Metacritic. Metacritic defined AV's C as a 50. http://www.metacritic.com/g...

Out of the Six 8 or lower Uncharted 3 scores, Metacritic has 4 of them. How convenient. The score, with 51 reviews, on metacritic, is a 93.

Here on N4G the score, with 86 reviews, is a 95.

Which score/site has more credibility? N4G.

attilayavuzer1703d ago

If you can put aside the fact that half of the people on here are complete fanboys...same reason I wouldn't trust the user scores for Gears 3. Whenever you're talking about arguably the largest franchise for any system, there'll always be an army of platform loyalists ready to blow the newest iteration based on hype alone.

Granted I've never played any of the Uncharted games, judging by the scores its getting 5/10 still seems a little low.

rob60211703d ago

@attilayavuzer

Well you might think that, but if you look at the average 360 scores on N4G, and compare them to Meta they both are higher on N4G. Gears 3 is a 9.3 on N4G and a 91 on meta. Those aren't 'user' scores, they're the average of scores of all reviews posted on N4G. Looking over scores of big games there's really very little evidence to suggest the 'ps3 fanboys' on n4g are influencing those averages.

N4G's averages actually seem like a batter rating than meta, also consider gamespot runs both gamerankings and meta, it's not hard to imagine they give gamespot more weight in thier system.

iamnsuperman1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

This is a really bad review. Nothing is mentioned for online features and more of a gripe how he knows less about Drake. From reviews I have read it is about why is drake doing this (taking a different angle about drake's personality). I couldn't care less about the score its more that it isn't really a review or a indepth review.

tinezedw1703d ago

Hope that ain't going to metacritic.

Shanks1703d ago (Edited 1703d ago )

Unfortunately it is. This terrible review doen't deserve to be on metacritic.

Orange1702d ago

Bullshit. AV Club is legit. Totally legit. This game is great, no doubt, but this guy just didn't like it. Why do we give a fuck how good the metacritic rating is???

Combo1703d ago

These clowns shouldn't be on metacritic.

rjdofu1703d ago

Now i know why Drake hates clowns. LOL

Orange1702d ago

You're sad man. AV club are not clowns. I no doubt will disagree with them and love this game, but it makes me sad you idiots have to trash someone when you hear an opinion you don't like.

PeZuS1703d ago

Boom goes the metascore :/. Of course metacritic decides to add this review when no reviews have been added for a few days.