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David Jaffe: My Take On Eurogamer's 'Controversial' Uncharted 3 Review

Eurogamer's 'controversial' review* of Uncharted 3 reminds me of why I love that site's reviews.

I also loved their fair and insightful criticism of Calling All Cars back in the day; how they sussed out the specific reasons for the lack of depth in our game. God, how I wish I had been able to articulate and even realize that flaw during CAC's development! We coulda made some simple changes that would have resulted in a much better title!**

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-Mika-1736d ago

That article was kind of confusing. Maybe it was the font but i just couldn't get a clear message from him.

Anyway i think he right about the reviewers trolling the game. Adam sessler review is a perfect example.

Hopefully this game sell millions but i have a feeling in my gut that it just not going to sell more than uncharted 2.

inveni01736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

I think it will sell well. Eurogamer won't sway anyone. The most important reviews come from friends and store employees that help encourage sales.

omi25p1736d ago

Eurogamer wont sway anyone? They gave it an 8/10 Which is a very very good score.

So if anyone see's an 8 an decideds not to by the game then they need to get their head check.

StanLee1736d ago

Yeah, I don't get the "controversy". How is an 8/10 not a good score?

-Alpha1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

The "controversy" is a website daring to give Uncharted 3 less than perfection

In the minds of many people UC3 was destined to be 10/10 and IGN's review just made people that much more arrogant. Eurogamer is instantly labeled as a biased fanboy review while IGN is suddenly credible and praised for being honest.

DrFUD1736d ago

Alpha, the problem is Uncharted does things that no other game does to combine gameplay and presentation.

The best way I can put it is like this...
It's sort of insulting to go into the world's tallest builing just to get to the top floor and complain that you don't care for the floorplan and think there should have been a bathroom there. Like come on loser, respect the accomplishment, give props, and marvel at the new sights.

DigitalRaptor1736d ago

I agree with DrFUD.

Naughty Dog are doing things that NO OTHER DEV is doing and to an almost perfect level. Just read Destructoid's review for the in depth analysis on just why it deserves no less than 9.5 on a review scale.

stevenhiggster1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

It's not about the score, it's more about the wording of the review and the reasoning for giving it an 8 instead of a 9 or 10.

Basically going on their reasoning I'll be fully expecting them to give MW3 2/10.

Bathyj1736d ago TrollingShow
LOGICWINS1736d ago

"Believing Eurogamer is to believe that Uncharted is only one point a better game than Once Upon a Monster or Dance Central. Sorry, my 30 years of gaming experience tells me differently."

You've got reviews twisted my friend. Dance Central and Uncharted are reviewed with totally different criterias in mind.

Dance Central can't be a better action/adventure game than Uncharted 3 because its not an action/adventure game.

Uncharted 3 can't be a better dance game than Dance Central because its not a dance game.

You say you have 30 years of gaming experience...yet I'm 21 and I have to explain to you that there are different standards for reviewing a dance game as opposed to an action/adventure game?

inveni01736d ago

That mentality has to stop somewhere. In fact, I can apply your mindset to Uncharted to justify why it should have gotten a better review... Ready? You can't mark points off for Uncharted being too cinematic and flashy because it's a cinematic and flashy game, so it should be reviewed as such.

The point is that Uncharted TRIES to be cinematic and flashy, and it does it with polish, finesse and mastery. If it tried and failed, THEN deduct some points. But a reviewer shouldn't deduct points just because they don't like cinematic and flashy. Do you agree? That would be like deducting points from Dance Central because you don't like dance games.

darthv721736d ago

I didnt know an 8 was a controversial score to give a game. Not to mention Eurogamer isnt the end all final word that everyone follows like the pied piper.

An 8 is a good score. I will score it myself when I get my own copy and yet my score wont matter to anyone else BUT myself.

I do have to say though, there have been so many 10's thrown around since this gen started that it makes me wonder what the significance of that number really holds anymore.

Maybe spinal tap's review will go to "11".

Bathyj1736d ago

So because a game is aimed at kids, it can just be cute drivel, maybe a bit educational and get a high score? Because a game is aimed at dancers, all it needs is a few hit songs?

But because a game is an adventure, and more importantly because it comes from a top tier developer who is achieving standards no one else is touching, then each new release they have as to break the mould, reinvent a genre, or totally change the world just to be considered up to the expected level?

Besides, those were just the quickiest examples I could find on that page. I'm sure there would be others in the same genre that scored as well or better and were lesser games, unless they just never give above an 8.

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-Alpha1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@Bathy

"Production values through the roof. Everything it attempts it does to a high standard that other devs can barely dream about."

So why does this automatically warrant a 9+ score? Clearly that is not what the reviewer had a problem with, they had a problem with interaction. No amount of production value will change how the reviewer felt about interactivity.

Let's be consistent here and apply this to GTA IV scores: High production values that other devs couldn't touch. Yet a majority around here didn't feel like it deserved a 10. Why do you insist that this is any different? By your logic, GTA IV is "too damn good" to get a lower score based simply on production value. Would you bash an 8/10 score for GTA IV?

And yes, that's exactly why people are complaining. Let's not pretend that UC isn't hyped to be a 10/10 flawless game. People had already determined what the score was way before they played it.

It's also misleading of you to look at the UC score in scale to a Kinect game, the standards are entirely different and you cannot seriously expect the games to be related on the same scale.

rjdofu1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@omi25p: and 8 is no where near "very very good score" it's just a good score period. You talk like the game deserves much lower score hence it's lucky to get an 8.

OT: who give a sh*t if the game gets 10 or 8, just an 8/10 with some retarded reasons are unacceptable. He complained about almost everything that makes UC2 successful. I mean, come on, complaining about finding treasure? Ultimately shallow?

Look at metacritic, the 3 lowest score are 8, with no 8.5. It makes me think that if people wanna talk negative about the game, they need to bring the score to the lowest possible (the lowest before their sites site getting heavy backlash).

AKS1736d ago

I'm getting it regardless of what they say, and I'll judge it for myself.

I find I have different tastes than many. I'd rate Dark Souls among the best games of this generation, for example, and most magazine/website reviews rate it lower than what I would. My own impression means quite a bit more to me than what anyone else thinks.

I'm sure Uncharted 3 will be awesome. Amy Hennig wouldn't let it turn out any way but awesome.

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MaxXAttaxX1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Dude, quit it. People are not bitching about "perfection". You're in every article about this subject repeating the same thing. The game doesn't have to get a 10.
And no one here is calling it a "controversy", it's the media.

It was the overall tone of the article. Focusing on what the game doesn't do instead of what it does.

I already said the rest here:
http://n4g.com/news/873328/...

The reviewer complains about points that have been irrelevant since the first game.

-Alpha1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

@Nathan

He claims certain scenes take away control and try to blend in cinematics with gameplay, it's perfectly reasonable to dislike this and just because this is the nature of Uncharted doesn't mean that it is automatically a positive or that the game couldn't have given a little more control while still maintaining a cinematic feel. I know lots of people that dislike some of Uncharted's fundamentals but that doesn't mean that they can't "review" Uncharted simply because they may not appreciate it the same way you do.

You on the other hand seem to dismiss his review entirely for not accepting certain premises of the game because you feel that those premises should be accepted by everybody who plays and reviews Uncharted.

As for the tone of the article, why does it matter? You would think it's a troll article if you had an expectation for the game, but if you walk in without any real expectations you would be able to read it without assuming it's written negatively. If people felt it was a troll review that's probably because they didn't expect criticism to begin with and were going into the review with the expectation that it steered towards a 9 or 10.

If his tone was more positive I'm sure you'd complain that the end score didn't match the review and then people would be complaining that the reviewer didn't do enough to justify the score, and the review would be swept under the rug for an entirely different reason.

His opinion still stands and you and I may not agree with it, but I certainly don't dismiss it just because it's not what I want to hear. At the end of the day it isn't an Uncharted fan or an Uncharted hater I expect to write a review, it is a gamer, and if interactivity is something he wanted more of then he is entitled to wish for it.

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inveni01736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Take it easy, pal. You're grouping me with someone else. I didn't even say the things you're referencing. What I said is that Uncharted 3 should be judged as the game is was designed to be, and not as the game the reviewer would prefer it to be... Reviewing a game based on personal preference is not how a game should be reviewed. It should be reviewed professionally.

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miyamoto1736d ago

at d end of d day its all business...all abt d money 4 Eurogamer. truth, opinions, reviews, have a price. the only people you can trust with Uncharted 3 quality are Naughty Dog, Sony & your own self. lets play UC3!

MaxXAttaxX1736d ago

It's only 1 review out of many other good ones.

Dark General1736d ago

How can a 8/10 score sway sells? I don't know about any of you guys but a 8/10 is a good score in my book.

NewMonday1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Jafee is assuming the game is to "cinematic" some TPS have just cover, shoot reload repeat, but from just from U2, the gamplay is one of the deepest, shooting , platforming, solving puzzles, sneaking... some times all at the same time.

@-Alpha

about 90% of reviews(including EDGE & Destructoid) gave the game 9+ scores, why are Eurogamer the "honest" ones.

its very hard for a game to get consistent praise from a wide range players because many play for different reasons and are looking for different things, entertainment, challenge, story, playing with friends...and from the reviews U3 dose all of that with quality & fun.

Kurt Russell1736d ago

Imma gonna buy Uncharted 3 based on the fact I liked the previous 2...

You guys can argue scores on a woulda shoulda coulda basis, but imma gonna get on with life. Laters!

vickers5001736d ago

"Reviewing a game based on personal preference is not how a game should be reviewed."

Why? Because you say so? Reviews are opinions. What if someone just was extremely bored and completely uninterested in the game they were reviewing, yet it had no actual faults (being uninteresting is not a fault, as interest is based on opinion)? Would you expect them to simply hand out the 10/10 score like it was nothing?

That would make reviews even more awful than they are now. When you get into certain aspects, such as FUN factor, those aspects cannot be judged objectively.

The 3 most common types of reviews are as follows: reviews that review a game completely OBJECTIVELY (reviews that only take into account technical aspects of the game, such as how much it has improved from the last game, ho little bugs there are, graphics, etc.), reviews that review a game completely SUBJECTIVELY, as in they give whatever game they're reviewing the score they FEEL it deserves or the score that made them feel that certain number (reviews on games such as cod games where all the technical aspects are crap, yet for some unknown reason, they still end up having a lot of fun), and then finally, you have the reviews that mix BOTH subjective and objective, factoring both parameters into their score (reviews that state that they KNOW it deserves some points for simply being an all around better game, yet also factor in the fun or lack of fun they had with it.

Personally, I prefer the mixed and the subjective review, as I don't buy games simply because they've ran through a check list and crossed every problem off the list and added everything they could have, as more does not always mean better.

"What I said is that Uncharted 3 should be judged as the game is was designed to be, and not as the game the reviewer would prefer it to be."

As I said before, different people expect different things, so judging a game "as it was designed to be" doesn't always work, because some people expect games to be designed differently, but FOR THE MOST PART, I do agree that games should be reviewed as what they were designed to be, but not always.

Gamer19821735d ago

The problem is with the negative points the give they dont give them same negative points for other games which have the same flaws and thats why a lot of people have problems with the review. It's great they find flaws in a near perfect game as no game is perfect. But the fact they do it more often for PS3 exclusive AAA than any other singles them out.

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zero_gamer1735d ago

8/10 still means a great game. Stop sobbing and get over yourselves. It isn't doing the game significant damage. It could've been worse, like a 6/10. People b*tch about the most ridiculous things like a review score it's really embarrassing me as a legitimate PS3 fan.

Dee_911735d ago

INCONSISTENCY...
I dont take any review serious no matter if they give it perfect scores or not.
Reviews on videos games are so broken its pointless.Theres no standards nothing to go off of. Like Bathyj said you cant give a mediorcre game a 8 or 7 and give a game like uncharted or gears a 8 or 7.@inveni Forza4 and gt5 reviews are a prime example of what you said.How can you mark points off a game because its a simulator when its suppose to be a simulator and not take points off a game that claims to be a simulator but falls short?
Reviews are just very inconsistant.

grahf1735d ago

@DigitalRaptor
Read the Destructiod review? OK.
Background: the most time I've played an Uncharted game was 5 minutes at a GameStop, so I don't really have an opinion of the series, good or bad. Lets see what this review does to inform me about this game...

I'm done reading, and that was a really glowing review for an action movie. I'd love to see it. Sounds like there are a lot of great action sequences and memorable characters, something thats hard to get these days in a big budget movie!

Oh wait, this is a GAME? Oh I see, they mention fighting and shooting controls for 5 sentences, and there is a brief mention of multiplayer as well. Everything else can be inserted into a review of any Hollywood blockbuster.

Yeah... thats a fluff review. So my opinion of UC3 now is that its a great action movie.

I'll wait till it comes out on video.

Dee_911735d ago

Nobody is saying 8/10 is a bad score.
But when your giving out 8s and 9s to mediocre games and turn around nitpick and make up dumb faults to take points off a game just because its hyped and give it a 8 is beyond unfair.
All im saying if your gonna nitpick 1 game nitpick all the games.
You cant focus only positives on one game then only focus on negatives on another.Like I said reviews are very inconsistant.It may be like that because they are written by different people.But those people should ONLY stick to their sites criteria for reviews and not mix their own feelings in with the final score.

Christopher1735d ago

***So if anyone see's an 8 an decideds not to by the game then they need to get their head check.***

Not in this day and age. Almost every single game that averages below a 9 has been relegated to a rental, used, or price drop status on this site and so many others.

***The "controversy" is a website daring to give Uncharted 3 less than perfection***

Yes and no. It's not like this isn't just for Uncharted 3. Look at Gears of War 3, Red Dead Redemption, and even Batman Arkham City. For practically every game, when your score falls on the lowest rung of the standard deviation, people see it as "controversial".

The thing is here, is than an 8/10 is the lowest rung of scores for this game. That's the only reason it stands out so much in comparison to other games where people complain about a 6/10 or similar.

I recently called a score of 4/10 for Deus Ex a failure on the reviewer. Sure, it's his opinion of the game based largely on his feeling that the story didn't flow well for him, but it's my opinion that he doesn't know how to review a game and understand that a 4/10 for story doesn't necessarily make a 4/10 game overall.

I do believe, though, that even though there are some issues with this lower rung scoring, most people who are complaining do not understand what they are complaining about.

And, I'll say once again, that if we're going to keep saying that reviews are the opinions of individuals, then we need to stop putting site names in the titles and the name of the reviewers instead. Otherwise, they are reviews that represent the site's standards in gaming, which for most sites do not match up from one game to another (UC2 10/10 and UC3 8/10 for improvements of the same concept).

gamingdroid1735d ago

I for the most part agree with you except this part (if I understood you correctly):

***Otherwise, they are reviews that represent the site's standards in gaming, which for most sites do not match up from one game to another (UC2 10/10 and UC3 8/10 for improvements of the same concept).***

A previous game receiving a better score, doesn't mean that the sequel with improvements should get better.

Review scores should be taken with a historical context and what the standard is today. Cleary by today's standard many older games don't deserve the scores they did, but they likey did at release.

Christopher1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

***A previous game receiving a better score, doesn't mean that the sequel with improvements should get better. ***

As a blanket statement, sure. After reading all the reviews that say U3 one-ups U2 in almost every aspect, though...

***Review scores should be taken with a historical context and what the standard is today. Cleary by today's standard many older games don't deserve the scores they did, but they likey did at release.***

Gotta disagree, not to say you're not allowed your opinion. I would give Planescape: Torment a 10/10, Baldur's Gate a 9/10, EverQuest a 7/10, DAoC a 8/10, Odin's Sphere a 9/10, and many other older games still hold true to their scores. And, 10 years from now, I will still consider Uncharted 2 a 9/10 game.

IMHO, updated technology doesn't change how good a game is. And, what makes Uncharted 2 of 2009 a great game isn't somehow less important two years later when they are still considered by most to be the top of what they do.

-Alpha1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

@Cgood

I dont believe for a second that if this was a multiplatform game that anybody would think twice about this review. But because it was a highly anticipated High 9+ exclusive, people simply expect the reviews to deliver.

The GiantBomb article said it best: confirmation bias.

Also, I vividly recall Naughty Dog talking about making UC3 a bit more open in gameplay, in fact, the article was an interview with Eurogamer themselves. The reviewer criticizes lack of control, so it's not hard to see why the reviewer felt that way. In fact, I recall that the early expectations/hype revolved around UC3 being "more open" in approach. There are many high rated games where one or two reviews fall below the average but I rarely see enough backlash that industry figures like Jaffe and websites like GiantBomb report on them. To me, that's very telling of how bad the "mob" mentality is when it comes to review expectations: Tell us what we want to hear or off with you.

In fact, GiantBomb's much better written 5/5 review criticized the same thing Eurogamer did, but they were much more forgiving. Simply a matter of opinion. I feel that the Eurogamer review didn't lie or write anything incorrect, he reported on the facts and justified why he did not like how it was done. For some reason, it's unprofessional of Eurogamer to write a "troll" review, but where was this journalistic integrity from the fans when a French magazine gave Uncharted 2 a 21/20? How much sense does that make?

And I do know of some forums, specifically I am on the Gamespot forums, where reviews for those multiplat titles are criticized but it's nothing like what I see for an exclusive.

Christopher1735d ago

***I dont believe for a second that if this was a multiplatform game that anybody would think twice about this review.***

If by 'anybody' you mean the general N4G user who seeks out controversy on which to comment. All of the games I've listed have had scores that held some controversy based on being outside of the normal deviation of scores. That includes multiplatform games.

Eurogamer on RDR
http://n4g.com/news/524793/...

Jim Sterling on Arkham City
http://n4g.com/news/865561/...

Now, I will admit that these aren't 'as' controversial as U3 (primarily because the gaming media has attached themselves to it and made it a lot bigger than it is), but there is controversy with exclusives and multiplatform games.

This is getting blown out of proportion because the gaming sites know people will talk about it seeing as it's a key exclusive for the PS3.

Boody-Bandit1735d ago (Edited 1735d ago )

People really need to read the article before posting. Im not saying everyone is doing that but a fair amount are. Are you just pounding away on your keyboard to see your name up on N4G?

If you read the article I don't know how anyone can deny the point Jaffe is making. Judge the game for what it is and not what the reviewer wants it to be. That has been one of my biggest gripes with reviewers since way back during the magazine era all the way up to the blogosphere gaming media of today.

gamingdroid1735d ago

***Gotta disagree, not to say you're not allowed your opinion. I would give Planescape: Torment a 10/10, Baldur's Gate a 9/10, EverQuest a 7/10, DAoC a 8/10, Odin's Sphere a 9/10, and many other older games still hold true to their scores. And, 10 years from now, I will still consider Uncharted 2 a 9/10 game.***

You are entitled to your opinion... A lot of people have fond memories of old games and get all nostalgic, but many of those wouldn't hold up to todays standard plain and simple.

Very few games can get away with it, but the vast majority don't. Would you score Doom the same today as you would have at release?

I doubt it....

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StraightPath1736d ago

That is spot on, Just because EuroGamer gave it an 8/10 doesn't mean it is the end of the world, it is really sad that people percieve an 8/10 as bad. Since when is an 8/10 bad? these days every game is an 10/10....I mean you enjoy the game yourself and see if you like it or not, just what a reviewer or number tells you.

I really doubt this is the issues regrading the every gamer, N4G is a prime example where the losers come to play with their fanboyism.

Gamers or the term " casual gamers " dont really know games from reviews or what ratings they get. They know games by word of mouth or adverts shown. That is what influences them to buy games. Do the millions of gamers who play Call Of Duty know what ratings they get? no, they play it because of popularity and what they enjoy. Not caring if it got an 7/10 in one particulary website.

-Alpha1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

I also agree and I think Jaffe hit the nail on the head: They are criticizing something with valid reasoning and people are just too close minded to accept that some gamers DON"T like it when the interaction is taken away from your hands. You don't have to agree with it, but the excuses I see to shun a negative criticism is extremely telling of how people have built such a wall of insecurity around Uncharted 3.

Eurogamer is completely allowed to have that opinion and it's one that I can completely understand, yet people on N4G have already determined that Uncharted 3 is a 10/10 experience without even playing it and they wont settle for anything less.

What's funny is that just last week IGN was being warned as the site that would dock UC3 for no reason, precautionary damage control, but now IGN is being hailed as the chief review to praise Uncharted 3

MaxOpower1736d ago

I agree with you, but!

"Since when is an 8/10 bad?"

Unfortunately, it has been like this for a long time. The avenger review score has been raised and raised since just about the beginning of the media, and that means today 7/8 is a "bad" score, or at least avenger.

My guess to why the avenger video game score is about 7 or 8, is that reviewers have been too "good" at listening to crap like this. (the eurogamer comments )By constantly getting shit from readers, their scores has eventually been raised over the years.

Also yes I agree, people should form their own meninges, and "not care". But if this is the case, then why even have reviews, If no one cares about scores or reviewers opinions, then why the fu*k write them in the first place?

I think you (not you specifically) should care, reviews are out there to help the consumer. I think the problem is not the scoring, but that the Metacritic score has become so impotent. I have two sites I like to read. (Giantbomb and Gamespot) I like to visit them before I go and buy a new game, but I like these sites because I have come to know the reviewers, and follow each sites podcasts. What I don't care about, is the global avenger score of the game, why should I care about what some German site thinks of the game, when I have no context and no point of reference for the site.

John Kratos1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Completely agree with everything that's being said here. I love Uncharted, it's one of my favorite games of all time, and if I were to review it personally it would be a 10 for me. I can understand that it might not be someones cup of tea or that the find more flaws in it than I do. So I really don't get this idea that an 8 is a bad score. On a scale from 1 to 10 8 is great. It's a huge problem for the videogame industry in particular, it really does inflate the review scores to where 5 is no longer average it's horrible. Look at the movie industry or really any other entertainment industry and the reviews keep to the scale pretty good.

@Alpha I think you always make great points, but I have to disagree with the loss of interaction, if it's pertaining to Uncharted. I find that Uncharted is one of the few series in gaming that really makes sure that the gamer has those spectacular moments and lets him keep interacting. Now one game that come to mind that's bad for it, is Gears of War. I really do love the Gears games, some of my favorite this gen, but Gears 3 had this awful habit of taken control away from the player to look at their set pieces or big moments, hell they have a button the controller dedicated to for looking at the set pieces and such. Really breaks the rythem and pace of the game when your playing and then Epic decides you need to look at this because they think it's cool. At least Uncharted let's you play through those parts.

AS for if we need story or gameplay is important. I think both are necessary in certain context. Story can be a great tool for motivating players to keep playing, and doing successful things in that story relative to the gameplay that the player performed can give you a great feeling, like hey I just did that, and now look how this world has changed. Just like pure game play can have that same good feeling, like beating the high score in Pac-Man or going 15-0 in Call of Duty. Both story and gameplay can be great simulators, given the context and type of person that is playing

nycredude1736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Listen I agree with alot of things Jaffee said here but the fact of the matter is that if a game is meant to be a certain kind of game, and the developers set out to make that kind of game, and does it exceedingly well then it should be judge based on those criterias. Just like if you review a dance game you wouldn't dock it points for just being a dance game and there ar eno shooting. It abundantly clear in every interview with the developers that this is what they intended to make, and the entire series it has been like this, so why all of a sudden it's a negative? If I remember correctly Eurogamer gave UC2 a 10. SO now the same thing that made them love the second game so much is now the reason they love this one way less?

And the examples Jaffe used to make his point are terrible.

"Guitar Hero, MW3, Angry Birds, Farmville, Mario, Madden, Wii sports, and on and on and on. Hell, even GTA"

Guitar Hero = Multiplatform
MW3 = (Seriusly) Muliplatform AND just as cinematic as UC franchise
Angry Birds = Free or a couple of bucks
Farmville = Free
Mario = You serious about this one? Been around for 25 years
Madden = Multiplatform
Wiisports = Serious?
Gta = Another multiplatform

These are all poor examples.

I don't expect everyone (reviewers) and gamers to have the same opinion but I expect some professionalism and consistency in reviews. That is all.

@otherZinc

Curious to see what you think of the reviews fro Batman AC. I guarantee UC3 will see more sales than UC2. WHy cause logic bro there are way moreps3s now sold than 2 years ago and the fanbase has grown. No matter what some retarded anti-good games haters on the internet says it's a great series and in the end that is what matters, not some nobody and his useless comment on the internet.

@shinobi602
He was understanding and agreed cause the game sucked and deserved a 6.

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ShiftyLookingCow1736d ago

did we read the same article?

knifefight1736d ago

Jaffe complimented the review and took a piss on gamers who rush to defend a game any time it doesn't get a 10/10.

BigBacon871736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Jaffe's next game Twisted Metal is extremely focused on the gameplay and maybe not much more than that. As it stands now it is my most anticipated title of 2012 and I have had it pre-ordered since E3 but this sounds like he is buttering up reviewers for that game at the expense of a masterpiece like UC3, which is sad for me to see as a longtime fan of Jaffe's. I have always found the gameplay in Uncharted to be exciting and engaging. Is it heavy on cinematics heck ya. Is that a bad thing? No. Not every game is built with the exact same formula nor should they be. For the record, Guitar Hero has always sucked. If he thinks the gameplay is great then he must have eaten a stack of mushrooms today. You can get the same experience with a 30 year old Simon Says game. Sorry Jaffe but I have to disagree with you on this one. Can't wait to get my hands on the masterpiece that I'm sure Uncharted 3 will be(also pre-ordered). Knowing what I know from the last 2 games I believe an 8 is a bit of an insult unless if those weird Euro's are using a 9 point scale. If UC3 is indeed an 8, then there aren't very many games(if any) this generation that are anything more than that.

geddesmond1736d ago

Seems to me David Jaffe is just kissing ass. I bet any money he would have had a different opinion if it was Twisted Metal that got an 8. It just seems hes trying to get a good review for his game off them and I'll tell yous what. If Eurogamer give TM anything over a 9 I'll seriously question that review.

I don't know. It seems reviewers reviewed UC3 with the same criticism they leave out of other games.

Its more of the same shit?? Since when is that a bad thing. Its why I'm so hyped for UC3. Also you can bet your ass that that criticism will be left out of MW3 reviews.

It released too soon??? Really?!REALLY??!! Well I don't know about yous but I don't want to wait 3 or 4 years for the next sequal in a game or a film. Lifes too short for that shit.

Its too much of a cinematic experiance. Ah man WTF. Its probably from the same people who say MGS4 is a Movie with 1 hour gameplay.

Just remember the dude who wrote the Uncharted 3 Eurogamer review scored Red Dead Redemption an 8/10, Crysis 2 an 8/10 but check this out. Modern Warfare 2=9/10. Do people seriouly take these reviewers serious?

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solidboss1736d ago

yea jaffe kiss ass so they wont rip twisted metal when they review it.

Imikida1736d ago

I don't even know how to reply to such a stupid comment

Chuk51736d ago (Edited 1736d ago )

Eurogamer has the most consistently well-written reviews in gaming. You have to read it. An 8 isn't bad, they use the scale appropriately, which is something many in the industry have lost the ability to do. when I read their BF3 review (8/10) that got my hyped to get the game. Because the analysis was so concise and insightful.

CaptainMarvelQ81736d ago

I agree about the wrong use of the scales of late,especially since a lot of games seem to be getting full marks easily.But still,I believe Eurogamer underrates some games.There has to be some even-ness.

FlashBack1736d ago

The problem is in the scaling, a 7.5 isn't the same as an 8.4

Imagine a scale from 0 to 20, that would be perfect
a 17/20 sounds great, and yet, it is 3 points away from perfection, please use this.

blackhammer1736d ago

Jeez. People should just look at the IGN review of Dead Space 2. Now THAT deserves to be a controversial review since it was written by a grown man with the mind of a 7 year-old.

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