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Editorial: Will Microsoft's Kinect Ever Connect With Hardcore Gamers?

This fall marks the one-year anniversary of Kinect, Microsoft's ambitious controller-free gaming device.

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fluffydelusions2191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

Nope. And why would anyone expect it to with MS pushing games like Sesame Street, Kinectimals with bears, and all those other kiddie games. I mean this stuff is good for kids but I don't see core gamers purchasing this stuff for themselves.

Anon19742191d ago

Ok, tell me honestly. What game wouldn't be made that much better by adding bears? Call of Duty...with bears! Gears of War...with BEARS!

I do agree, it seems more directed at kids, but there's nothing wrong with that. Microsoft needed to make a connection with casuals and families. They hit it out of the park with Kinect. I love Double Fine and would buy Once Upon a Monster in a second if my son were older. Seeing the Kinect "integration" in games like Mass Effect 3 or Ghost Recon just made me shake my head though. I don't know why they even bother.

EVILDEAD3602191d ago (Edited 2191d ago )

It's only been a year and the fake 'hardcore' Kinect article are STILL coming?

It's been proven for the last year and a half that the people who speak the loudest about Kinect are the detractors who don't own or play it.

This fan blogger is juat another one.

The answer to the question is YES..

It's too late to hate..the Hardcore 360 gamers ALREADY play and own Kinect and hardcore.

Pretending Kinect is only about Kinectimals is as silly as pretending PS3 owners bought Move just so they could play EyePet.

Only the usual suspects pretend that because THEY don't have children or young family members that LOVE games like Kinectimals (whichs is actually a great game) or Sesame Street that somehow Micrsoft shouldn't market those games to kids. Only the usual suspects believe that 360 gamers who buy Gears of War 3 won't know who the Disneyland game is marketed to. The hypocrisy is that EVEY console has had kids games before Kinect and EVERY console will have them after.

I say it all the time, I see the most hardcore of 360 gamers as friends, the guys who Prestige 3 times over average on every Call of Duty, the guys who attend the midinght releases of Halo and Gears..

It's these guys that are suprisingly the ones who have more achievements on Dance Central than I would ever bother to get.

First and foremost Kinect isnt for EVERY one and you can look at the last 50 Kinect articles and of course it's not for the trolls and multi accounts that show up in every article.

As far as motion control experiences Kinect evolved and surpassed on much of what was offered up to that point.

Kinect Sports and Dance Central dominated as the best of what was offered at launch.

Since then Kinect has had a sprinkle of releases, opened up to games through Arcade and the experiences of the hacks through Kinect Fun Labs.

There's a reason why critics love Child of Eden and Gunslinger. It's because they are not only unique but really show what the peripheral is starting to be capable of.

The fan blogger may play down Fruit Ninja on Kinect but the critics didn't. It's an f-ing blast and destroys the IOS experience.

Dance Central 2 is already getting raves from critics and the demo of Kinect Sport: Second Season shows how far Rare/Big got in one year.

Forza 4 is stellar and Kinect's Autovista and arcade Kinect contolled races are stand-out experiences.

Halo Anniversary and Mass Effect 3 are using Kinect to immerse the player through everything from commicating with the A.I. to the switching of weapons to throwing grenades.

Hardcore releases are coming from Project Draco, Steel Battalion, to Lionhead's Fable: Journey and Crytek's Ryse.

EA is implementing Kinect control in EVERY major sports title for next year. Which means Madden, Fifa, Tiger Woods etc.

At the end of the day, every gamer is different, hardcore 360 gamers aren't boxed into ONLY enjoying shooters.

Evil

Hicken2191d ago

So... the point was the peripheral connecting with HARDCORE gamers. And don't get me wrong; hardcore gamers may enjoy some of those games, but those aren't likely to be the games they want to spend their money on first.

Child of Eden is a multiplat, so there was no point bringing that up in reference to Kinect. To that end, it's not even NECESSARY to play it with Kinect, though it's arguably better.

There is no game called Gunslinger on Kinect.

Forza, Halo, and Fable aren't using the Kinect for anything more than a small feature here or there, and you have no idea HOW EA will be using the Kinect.

Hardcore gamers have never been limited to ANY particular genre, regardless of the console. But on 360, the pickings are rather slim at the moment, unless you want to play Kinect.

EVILDEAD3602191d ago

@ Hicken..

Look we get it, we know you hate Kinect and the 360 so of course this your stand point. Which is the outside looking in. You don't own the device, you don't play the games, and YOU are not the 360 hardcore audience that plays games on the 360.

LMAO @ 'you can't bring up Child of Eden, because it was a timed exclusive?

See this is where the hypocrisy comes in. It's only ok to say Move is 'hardcore' because you can use it as an alternative controller on games like Resident Evil 5. But simply mention Child of Eden and somehow the is some 'fake fan kid' rules that apply.

Nah..like it or not, it's a great game and a blast with Kinect.

You are right..there is no game named Gunslinger..the game is Gunstringer (which I mess up the name all the time)

We are talking about hgardcore games right?

Game Informer's quote when talking about Gun Stringer..

'The Gunstringer proves that Kinect can appeal to hardcore gamers looking for fast-paced action and a great story'

My point stands..

See what none of the non-Kinect owners get is that Kinect simply sits on top of your TV. If connected it's on no matter whether you use it or not.

So no matter how the internet kids try to downplay it's features, the developers who implements it and hardcore gamers who own understand how Kinect adds to the hardcore experience.

Playing Forza 4 I can simply drive and turn my head for the head tracking. Stand up and walk around my car for the detailed experience of Autovista, have a friend jump and and we can drive the cars without a controller just split screed arcade fun. All optional and all fun additions to an already stellar product.

Halo Anniversay is a fan's dream as 343 literally implement the Halo encyclopedia into the game and allows you to use Kinect to get detailed information on anything in-game. It allows you to switch weapons using your voice, throw grenades etc. All fun, all add to the fan experience.

Mass Effect's Kinect implementation is going to be a blast period. Just being able to go into a battle without having to pause the game over and over just to pick what the team will use during a fight was worth the price of admission alone. But, the voice implementaion is definately going to add to the immersion. But, that's coming from a huge fan of the series.

Pretending Fable is only using Kinect as a small feature is complete ignorance as Fable: Journey is built from the ground up as a Kinect game.

It's clear you definately don't own a 360 if you are pretending that the pickings are 'rather slim at the moment', when there are literally too many games to play 'at the moment.

Evil

Hicken2190d ago

Actually, I hate neither the Kinect, nor the 360. What I hate is that Microsoft has eschewed producing "hardcore" games for the sake of Kinect. What I hate is that people are so blindly loyal to Microsoft, despite how they've been wronged in the past.

I misspoke. Fable IS a Kinect-heavy title, but there's a problem. Fable: The Journey is nothing like any of the other Fables. People who are fans of the other games, or fans of similar titles, will not similarly be drawn to this one.

Feel free to misquote, but what I said was "Child of Eden is a multiplat." It was not intended as a timed exclusive, though, in the end, it wound up as just that. Still, as fun as it may be, I wouldn't put it in the same Category as Resident Evil.

It's funny that GameInformer says that, because the sales don't bear that out, do they?

Yep, it just sits on top of the TV, on no matter what, collecting dust until people decide to trade it in.

No, I don't own a 360. If I want to play one, I use my roommate's. But you see, I don't like the direction Microsoft is taking, so I have no intention of supporting them. There are a decent number of games already out on the 360 that I'd like to play, but the future doesn't look as promising as the past, for that system, and I have no desire to spend my money on something that isn't getting the support of games I'd like.

Like it or not, the pickings are slim; if you're interested in Kinect, they're less slim, sure. But I'm not fond of motion gaming regardless of console. My favorite part of motion-controlled gaming is fine-tuning your aim with a sniper rifle in Killzone 2.

For people like me, there are plenty of multiplats coming out of interest on the 360. Battlefield, Skyrim, etc. But for my system to be worth my decision to buy it, it should also have games I can't play elsewhere. Games I'm interested in. As far as new titles are concerned, the 360 lacks that. Kinect, no matter how well implemented, currently does not rectify that void.

EVILDEAD3602190d ago

'Actually, I hate neither the Kinect, nor the 360. What I hate is that Microsoft has eschewed producing "hardcore" games for the sake of Kinect.'

LOL @ just proving my statement. It doesn't matter why you troll 360 articles..we just know you do.

See, only fan kids are still pretending Microsft somehow abandoned the 'hardcore' for Kinect.

So while they are faking concern, the actual hardcore gamers played Halo Reach, Fable 3, Forza 4, Gears of War 3 etc. THESE are ARE the biggest hardcore franchises on the system..still being made. So the whole abandoned the hardcore base is simply ducktales.

'Fable IS a Kinect-heavy title, but there's a problem. Fable: The Journey is nothing like any of the other Fables. People who are fans of the other games, or fans of similar titles, will not similarly be drawn to this one.'

See this is why fan kids talking about games and a system they don't own or play makes their ignorance shine through.

See EVERY single Fable is different, all connected by a single universe. Fable: The Journey is a Kinect game built from the ground up in the Fable universe.

Fans of Fable like myself are actually the ones who can't wait for it to come out. Unlike, you are who know idea what games ae released for the 360, fans KNOW the difference between a standard Fable game and this Kinect side project.

'It's funny that GameInformer says that, because the sales don't bear that out, do they?'

Ohhhhh I get it you saying that a game can't be hardcore, because it doesn't sell huge numbers'

LOL @ digging hard into you fan kiddy stash.

'Yep, it just sits on top of the TV, on no matter what, collecting dust until people decide to trade it in'

Suuuure in the internet fantasy fan kid world of 'NOBODY plays and enjoys systems or games that I don't like'

Like it or not, the pickings are slim; if you're interested in Kinect, they're less slim, sure.

Again What slim pickens? I've been gaming my @ss off on the system the same as any year. Once again, there are literally too many games to play right now.

'For people like me, there are plenty of multiplats coming out of interest on the 360.'

For people like you? You mean the gamers who DON'T own a 360?

Too funny..look we get your troll agenda..don't fight it..you hate the 360..you hate Kinect etc.

Just simply play your 360 and stop getting emotional about people who enjoy a system that you don't.

Evil

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newleaf2191d ago

We are currently experiencing the second wave of kinect games and it is as casual as the first. Next wave is set to be coming next E3, I for one will not hold my breath for any hardcore appeal

Wizziokid2191d ago

not on it's own the only way Kinect can work with the core is to keep the controller and add kinect features to the game which would actually add to the experiance, not just boring voice commands which will make playing the game slower.

Kinect will never kinect to the core if it's by itself, I'm sorry MS but controller free core titles won't happen, at least not with this device

evilunklebud2191d ago

No, and it probably doesn't need to either.

Gamers and hard core gammers are almost apples to oranges.

kma2k2191d ago

it dosent really seem like its being marketed for hardcore gamers to me at least.

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