The Xbox 720 and PS4 will not present a threat to PC gaming, according to gaming rig manufacturers Alienware – who say the PC gaming community isn’t going anywhere any time soon.
i doubt next gen consoles will even run Battlefield 3 on Ultra in 30fps and 1080p
Next gen consoles at the LEAST should be able to run BF3 at 60fps and 1080p. If they can't then i am disappoint.
Back in 2006, the 360 & PS3 graphic cards were pretty high end. So I don't think that it is unreasonable to think that consoles, that are not due for release for at least another 18 months, will be capable of handling the most taxing of next-gen games (e.g Battlefield 3). And Sony & MS will put an even greater emphasis on graphics this gen than even the last. Because graphics sell games, and games sell consoles.
BF3 isn't quite as mad demanding as maybe some people imagined it to be. Yes you need a GTX570/6970 to max it really @ 1080p, but these cards aren't the top top end even now. This isn't Crysis, where you could barely max the thing in 1080p and AA with a pair of 8800 Ultras- the fastest cards of the time. Two GTX580 gobble up BF3 maxed 60FPS+ without breaking sweat. Plus in about 4 months said high end cards will be midrange at best, because we have a brand new 28nm generation arriving before spring 2012. The top end 28nm cards will obliterate GTX580, i guarantee it. Assuming the new sony/MS consoles are at least a year away, then yeah, they really shouldn't be having any problems with BF3 maxed in the Pc guise. In fact, Wii U might even be able to get close to it. Considering Far Cry in early 2004 was bleeding edge, 18 months later the consoles managed to match up to it ok.
On release day consoles have never been as powerful as a typical gaming PC, I dont see this changing for next gen.
Thing is though, and I haven't seen it mentioned, Pc gamers will have to once again upgrade their computers when new consoles come out, especially the new Xbox. This is because MS writes the books on what and how programming and graphics technology will be utilized. Everyone wants to hate on MS, but everyone is lazy and waits for MS to write the API as usual. To take advantage of the new interface, you will be upgrading.
@wraith So we'll have to spent 300 bucks for a gpu when that time comes if we want high end. well still have all of our games we'll still be able to do 100x more things then a console is able to. Well still be at higher resolutions and higher fps. A new console for you will be 300-400 and you'll have zero games for it. Ok you'll have 1, the launch title
"@wraith So we'll have to spent 300 bucks for a gpu when that time comes if we want high end. well still have all of our games we'll still be able to do 100x more things then a console is able to. Well still be at higher resolutions and higher fps. A new console for you will be 300-400 and you'll have zero games for it. Ok you'll have 1, the launch title" You sound butthurt from my previous comment. But did I lie? You forgot to mention backwards compatibility, which undoubtedly will be a given. And only one launch title? Really? Do you ever wonder why you have one bubble?
It really depends when they release and the cost of hardware at the time. If they release next year then doubtful but 2014 then I say no problem.
I just realized something.. PC gamers are gonna try to make a "comeback" by being even bigger fanboys/girls than console gamers. Since BF3, there has been an artical a day about PC superiority.
tell me about it, when Crysis was the only crowning graphical jewel PC gamers were fairly quiet..... When devs focus is back on learning the next gen tech PC will fall by the wayside yet againt.... history will repeat itself
Hey, 8th generation is coming, PC manufacturers want people to decide with their wallets early before new consoles arrive.
i just realized something. since you dont own a gaming PC and you are butt hurt about not having the superior gaming machine you have to down play us PC gamers. @the article a day thing.......console fanboy fap offs are 99% of N4G news so the one article a day about the PC isnt all that bad.
I remember when this console generation launched. They were able to keep up with the current high end (but not enthusiast) PCs for the most part at launch. I would guess that what we will see in the next generation of consoles will be close to what the PREVIOUS generation of high end PCs parts are capable of. Or really close to it. And considering the cost of the console compared to the current high end PC parts that is a steal for the horsepower you are getting.
wait till the crazy people at Sony come out with the hard to developed for PS4 and we will start seeing article like "PS4 hard to develop for" just like the PS3 early in its lifetime! although I doubt Sony will want to do it again next gen :-P
Uncharted 3? Which i think is the best looking game I've ever seen and it's being played on a PS3 that's just $249. To me consoles good enough especially for the price. Just saying.
Uncharted 3 looks awesome, uncharted 2 was a revelutionary console game as well, amazing looking, and more importantly, fun to play, but as someone who owns all 3 current gen consoles and 2 gaming pc's, I can tell you without a doubt that Many, MANY major AAA pc titles from the last 3-4 years looks way better than uncharted 2 and 3 Bulletstorm BFBC2 BF3 Crysis 2 Metro2033 Far cry 2 Shogun 2 Empire 2 Every ASsasians creed game on pc rage heck, even games like portal 2 and left4dead 2 look better just due to the sheer crispness and lack of any artifacts or muddiness found in every console title. if uncharted 3 had been developed for pc as well, it would probably beat out quite a few of those titles, I am not trying to take away from it's artistic briliance.
Yes, I also doubt that I'll need water today.
The average person can easily go one day without water. On topic- no console generation is going to be a threat to PC gaming. They are two different beasts and experiences. The same as no PC is going to threaten console gaming.
I can't believe people even still buy Alienware...so overpriced it's ridiculous.
But still cheaper than Apple products
Haha, good point.
I considered Alienware when I upgraded my work laptop but went with the ASUS G74 instead. One of the best decisions I've made (although I probably would have been happy with the Alienware also). I was able to play BF3 Beta with Ultra Settings but I think I will run it on High for the extra FPS.
Good choice, was considering buying the G53. Going with a CyberPower instead, with the custom specs and all...
In my opinion, I'll just stick to consoles. At least consoles you don't have to upgrade the hardware every few years.
I'll stick to consoles not because of hardware upgrades which isn't actually all that often...that is usually blown way out of proportion. But rather I'd miss all the Sony exclusives that I love plus I don't really know anyone that games on PC.
Are you not allowed to own two platforms or something? I play 99% of my games on PC, but I'm still glad I have my PS3 laying about for the occasional console exclusive.
I agree. We all know that PC games look incredible, if done right. But I just have no desire to build one and some of the games that I love to play aren't available on PC so I would need to get a console anyway. @ pandamobile - Maybe not. Some people found it strange that I wanted to get BF3 and MW3 :)
@Pandamobile Of course you could. I actually had a gaming PC for a while but recently sold it because I found myself playing my PS3 more and the PC rarely got touched. Plus PC has far less players. I couldn't even get into a game of MW2 because of how few players there were while on PS3 there are a 100k+ still playing. I only really used the PC to play SC2 and Amnesia DD.
Yes me to. Although I wish console games were cheaper but that isn't possible due to development costs and royalties. If I had the cash I would build a monster PC. XperiaRay
nothing to do with development costs lol they make millions in profit xD
Has nothing to do with development cost. If anything it's cheaper to develop on a console than a PC due to the minimum amount of hardware it needs to work with and the limited graphics options. It's Microsoft & Sony taking a percentage of the sale, they make up for this by having an increased price on the games.
I agree. I mean started playing games on a sega, and been raised with a controller in my hands and I just prefer it that way. It's not a knock against PC gaming, because there are pc experiences consoles can only dream of. If this person actually thinks they don't have to worry at all about the next-gen they're just sad, but then again I'd be sad if I was at alienware too.
You don't have to do that with PCs either? The difference with a PC is that you CAN, if you WANT TO. If you buy a high end rig at the start of a console generation that plays at higher than console fidelity, it will continue to do so for the entire generation. If you want to spend €200 on a GPU and make things look 2X better about 3 or 4 years down the road, you absolutely can. At least with a PC you have that choice.
I stick to consoles based off the devs who develop for them. (Ex. Team Ico, PD, ND and countless others)
Next-gen consoles ‘not a challenge’ to PC gaming – Alienware" Common knowledge. You can't expect the new consoles coming out to be running 580GTX or 6990 Equivalent GPU's...and those GPU's will be old when the next round of consoles hit....
I reckon they'll be rocking 560ti or 6950 equivalents when they are launched, or maybe their equivalents in the next gen of GPUs next year. But console GPUs rarely go high-end, as you said. Too big, too hot, too expensive.
Lol Alienware; they give PC gaming a bad name with their overpriced crap. Edit: for the disagree the following system costs £1250 from AW Alienware Aurora Matte Black 875W Chassis 3.3GHz Intel® Core™ i5-2500K Windows® 7 Home Premium (64 BIT) 1GB GDDR5 NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 560 TI 8GB (4x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Dual Channel Memory 500GB - SATA-II, 7,200rpm, 16MB Cache edit DVD+/-RW (Read/Write) 24x Integrated HDA 7.1 Dolby Digital Audio A similar build from Scan costs around £800. How is AW not overpriced?
And pc will never have the kind of exclusive games consoles have. I love great games, not much of a tech nerd I just want the game to look good and as of now with games like forza 4, uncharted 3, gears3, batman ac, bf3 and many more look great.
PC has more exclusives per year than 360 and ps3 exclusives combined
ok.... And how many are actualy good games?! And by good games I don't mean just graphics... And mods... I don't see a pc game that smashes god of war 3, again I'm not talking graphics but gameplay as. I don't see nothing toping gears3, uc3, forza4, gta5 etc. Only game that I know of that's worth mentioning is witcher, but that's coming to consoles to if it's not out already. Oh... And wow...
"I don't see a pc game that smashes god of war 3, again I'm not talking graphics but gameplay as. I don't see nothing toping gears3, uc3, forza4, gta5 etc. " Of course the console has plenty of amazing games. But I play them too on my consoles. A lot of the PC exclusive games have very different goals to console games, take Killing Floor as an example. It's not a high budget game, but its aim is pure fun and it pulls it of perfectly and still has appreciative graphics. There are thousands more worthwhile PC games, but you are right in saying that many of them are not as good as a lot of console games - but they are made by small developers and they are very cheap. While still higher quality than many exclusive XBLA or PSN titles. The PC is so easy to develop for that developers can focus on innovative gameplay and the risks are much lower because they make more profit per sale without having to cash out royalties and being able to release all titles digitally. And because the games are cheaper you can buy more than them. Many are cheaper at launch than second hand non-AAA console games. I think consoles had more superior games last generation, when compared to PC - which of course still stood strong as a gaming platform. Multiplats are also better, and usually cheaper, on PC...
people really believe pc will be more powerful and better graphics cause they think that sony and microsoft have to release low price hardware, but what happens if sony and microsoft merge or sony and microsoft develop 2 equal platforms and at the same price point? nintendo is no longer a challenger to them so pricing doesnt really need a ceiling any more i think sony and microsoft are really done with more of the same they are fully capable of realeasing a platform that can make any pc hardware now and future seem weak if they wanted its very possible it depends on what gamers want just something to keep note of
lol @ this coming from a manufacturer who wont bundle a good GPU with a rig unless you buy an over the top CPU too, and they claim to retail gaming machines :/ Money grabbing retailers like Alienware are the reason people think PC gaming is very expensive.
its correct that next gen consoles wont post a threat to pc gaming (graphically) but they will post a threat in the sales of pc gaming, its been doing that since the 90's if steam wasnt around there wud hardly be any pc game sales, u only have to walk into a game store to notice that, theres like 1 tiny colomn for pc stuff. i am a pc gamer aswell as a ps3 gamer, my pc can run most new games on max but still i buy them on ps3. id much rather choose confort over a bit of extra graphic power, thats just my opinion tho. one thing tht anoys me tho is allot of just pc gamers hate o the consoles for there inferior graphics an such wen really if it wasnt for consoles the gaming industry wudnt be nower wer it is today without the consoles. fact im getting skyrim on launch and i knw how sick it wil look on my pc but im getting it on ps3. same with battlefield 3. to me there console games, i genrally stick with games on pc that i cant play on console
...says the posh PC hardware manufacturer.
PC may be technically superior but all the best games will always be on consoles
if next-gen consoles want to challenge PC they should support 4k res and minimum 16gb of RAM at launch. else within a few years they will look outdated.
Next Gen Consoles will be the overall winner. I predict them to be priced at around $500 which means it will be the affordable way to get 1080p gaming in one form factor and a social gaming platform all in one. Devolopers will want to devolop for consoles because there will be more oppurtinity for sales and games really make a platform. All Next Gen consoles have to do is run 60FPS Steady with 1080p Native and they are the clear winner for accessibilty and the "average" consumer will buy a console and not a gaming PC.
Say what you want but pc gaming has been discussed more than ever and there are reasons for it. It's growing more and more as time goes by.
...said Alienware the manufacturer of overpriced gaming PCs. These guys don't want to lose their business its no wonder they're saying this. Anyway consoles are already the king.(have been since the PS1 days) If anything PC Gaming isn't a challenge to console gaming.
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