IGN - Some PC gamers are starting to feel like second-class citizens.
Cause many Devs make the console version first then make a crappy console port to PC. they have to add in KB/M support and more options for control, customization, and graphics (most just staple on KB/M support and call it a day) some Devs can do all 3 platforms at once while some some do the consoles first then delay the PC version to get it correct or..... some PC versions are held back to prevent pirating BUT games like Two Worlds 2, Bad Company 2, Portal 2, Metro2033, and many others have a PC version that outsold the console versions proves that a GOOD Game made with PC Gamers in mind will sell very well on the PC platform. Also many console games just DO NOT have a market on the PC.....PC Gaming is a different world and trying to turn the PC into 3rd platform like PS3/360 is a wrong decision many Devs make cause PC Gamers play different games.
"Why Are PC Versions of Games Delayed?" Cause PC versions are an afterthought, the way it should be.
Cause your too cheap and dumb to get a pc. Get out u troll
The way it should be? Where do you think your beloved console gets it hand me down graphics cards? Thats right, PC. If PC games keep getting gimped because devs are lazy, we will stop buying new graphics cards which will end in the next consoles having weaker cards. Less PC gamers buying graphics cards = less money spent researching/developing new tech = less capable gaming pcs/consoles for everyone. Still think thats the way it should be?
"Cause PC versions are an afterthought, the way it should be" At first i was like "you little troll"....but then i thought about it.....and Winter47th is right. I play mostly PC Exclusives......and PC versions of console titles are just that an after thought. Why play a crappy console port when i can play a PC Exclusive or a title where the PC was the lead platform. If you ever noticed....all my avatars are always PC Exclusives that I'm about to buy!
It used to be a lot worse than it is now, I don't really mind mainly because I have too much to play already, 200+ games on Steam keeps me busy...
It's because developers know that their titles will be pirated to hell & back.. so might as well hold it back as much as possible, I guess.. maybe even implement some new security in the process. I don't see the point of doing it though, they're only delaying the inevitable lol
Huge logic fail, instead of pirates downloading Batman AA next month, all these people will run out and buy it for PS3/360 now? Wouldn't they just pirate it on 360?
Piracy rates are lower for consoles than for PCs.
Irrelevant to my statement, but thanks for chiming in.
My comment is relevant. Piracy rates on the PC are so high that some companies intentionally delay PC releases for fear that it will cannibalize console sales. From: http://www.shacknews.com/ar... "To be honest, if PC wasn't pirated to hell and back, there'd probably be a PC version coming out the same day as the other two," "The level of piracy that you get with the PC just cannibalizes the others, because people just steal that version," he elaborated. "Piracy's basically killing PC." Google this: game developers delay pc releases due to piracy
That's an interesting quote, seemingly a bad viewpoint when you have PC games outselling console releases such as Super Meat Boy, Portal 2, and Battlefield (all great titles) Possibly it's more accurate account piracy levels on the quality of the game. Going back to what Gabe Newell says, if you make a good game, it will sell. So yea, if you're going to bring a terrible game to PC like End War, statistics say, delay it. http://www.destructoid.com/... http://www.technobuffalo.co... http://kotaku.com/5487038/b...
"Piracy rates on the PC are so high that some companies intentionally delay PC releases for fear that it will cannibalize console sales. " Explain how there's leaks of console versions out quicker than that of PC on multi-platform release as of late? Delaying doesn't even stop that. In fact: http://n4g.com/news/871155/... That right there is an example.
Its allot harder to pirate a console then it is to pirate a PC game
Letros, you named three games, one of which looks like an iPhone game. Console development is the big leagues, meaning the games that are the true heavy hitters, are going to sell more on consoles. Just because some of you pc fanboys are mad at Carmack, doesn't mean he was wrong in what he said.
lol @ calling me a PC fanboy, I'm a gamer bro, I'm just dishing out facts, something no one else can seem to show, suffice it to say, the original post was illogical, pirates are pirates, purchasers are purchasers. How did Carmack get into this discussion, grasp at more straws why don't you.
Facts? I wrote my statement wearing my "captain obvious" hat, funny that I got disagrees. I mentioned Carmack to back up my statement concerning the bigger games are going to sell more on consoles. You can wear a "captain obvious" hat while reading comments also if you need to borrow it. But honestly, its not a big deal to me, my favorite devs have never shorted me in quality nor the platform I prefer to pla my games on.
" I mentioned Carmack to back up my statement concerning the bigger games are going to sell more on consoles." Yea, and yet he had 3 examples, you only had 1 that suddenly changed his mind AFTER a launch, despite the fact that he somewhat botched 2 out of 3 versions. You say "captain obvious", but I don't see any sense of logic backing your argument up other than names. You didn't even explain why you thought he was right, but instead chimed in. A famous person can still be wrong regardless of status, as no one is perfect.
Do I really need to tell you people what major franchises sell more on console? Really? Go google it...kids these days. I'm not here to spoon feed you, you're not worth my time.
Letros, you convinced me! After all, it wouldn't make sense to listen to the game companies that have said they are delaying PC versions of their games because of piracy just because they did it! It's pure coincidence that ubisoft delayed the following games for the PC: Assassin's Creed Assassin's Creed 2 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood Call of Juarez: The Cartel Dark Messiah: Might & Magic Driver: San Francisco From Dust H.A.W.X. 2 Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones Rocksmith Splinter Cell Conviction etc etc. It's also likely that that the upcoming game Assassin's Creed Revelations is being delayed on the PC for some other reason then what they stated as well. For our next debate you should tell me how the companies who said they won't release PC versions of their games due to piracy are wrong ... despite the game not being available for the PC.
@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3 FYI I'm 32. I actually work in this field, unlike people that need to google it.
agree with letros i wouldn't have minded if they delayed batman even longer im going to pre order it on steam but i don't know when ill be able to get to play it maybe sometime next year
Simple. Either get a quick port of the consoles versions or wait a little longer and get a proper PC version.
Agreed , better to wait to get a decent PC port than a trash console port like dead space 1 for example.
Then how come I'm waiting and still having to press start to enter the main menu on half my God damned games?
It probably has more to do with the deals the publishers have with the console manufacturers. Don't forget that every copy of a **new** game that gets sold for a console has to pay a royalty fee to whatever company owns the platform it was sold on. On the PC it is rare to have to pay a royalty to anyone. So if you talk the devs into releasing the game on the consoles first then those people that just can't wait to play it on PC will get in on the console meaning more money for the platform holder. Anyway, that may not be the ONLY reason but I bet it is certainly a consideration when making deals.
What upsets me isn't the delay. It's the way that coming up to the release the PC version is talked about completely normally. The game is advertized as coming out a certain date and it's coming out on ALL platforms. If a PC gamer and a PS3 gamer wanna get psyched they watch the same trailer for the same game. But when the air gets hot and the time starts to come and it's almost always a month (or in ubisofts case three freakin' days) before and they suddenly turn around and go, "Oh wait!? Oh you thought YOU were getting it the same time as everyone else. What are you silly? You're a PC gamer, you don't count. All those reviews, previews, countdowns and trailers were meant to get our REAL customers hyped. You can play it in a few weeks when we finally sort out all the optimization." And I wouldn't mind if I waited three weeks and got a real PC version but half the time it's still "press A to start", and it's still piss poor optimization. If anything the only reason I think there even is a delay is just so they can implement the DRM. So in summary four big problems, A) they wait last minute to tell us (ubisoft take this to the next level). B) if a games delay is so the PC version is stronger then how come half the time I wind up pressing "A" to start, can't customize graphics, have no mod tools, dedicated servers, developer console or a game that can actually run properly. C) It's taken almost for complete granted that the people watching those trailers and countdowns are ONLY console gamers. D) The only real difference that ever actually stands between the PC and console versions is almost always some irritating DRM.
Because no one gives a shit about pc gaming anymore.
They delay it so they can put all sorts of DRM into it so that it will take pirates an extra 3 hours to crack the game.
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