Doom 4 "Indefinitely Postponed" Following RAGE's Disappointing Launch

A source claiming to be close to the publishers of the recently-launched RAGE has told Kotaku that, at a recent "company wide" meeting held in Dallas, Bethesda and parent company Zenimax made the decision to "indefinitely postpone" development of Doom 4.

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ATi_Elite2405d ago (Edited 2405d ago )

Good! Very Good!

Go back to the drawing board and get people in there that can create the true feel of a proper Doom game.

Carmack has completely lost his touch. Carmack's tech skills are great but he can no longer design a game around fun, innovative game play.

I do not want some garbage Doom 4 game like that crap Rage! Better yet just sale the Doom I.P. to Epic and let them make it.

*Edit*...... Rage = Crap...Yes Crap the PC version was just a rotten console port. Now to a consoler that may mean very little but to a PC Gamer that means a lot especially when the DAM game has NO Graphics options!

Then the missions were repetitive, driving was basically a way to get back n fourth between Corridor game play, the game wasn't open world and the A.I. sucked.

The PC has the STALKER Series and Rage doesn't come close so that's why Rage is CRAP to me.

vickers5002405d ago

How was RAGE crap? Aside from the ending and the underwhelming bosses that is?

Bibto2405d ago

Carmack has never been a designer at id Software. He is the Technical Director. I agree that the design if id games are influenced by what Carmack comes up with for the engine, but he does not design the games himself.

Furthermore, for me id games has sortof always just been a showcase for their latest technology. The design was usually mediocre, but the tech made it worth it. With all the games coming out nowadays, great tech simply just isn't gonna cut it anymore.

Lastly, I also think id's strong mod support on PC really helped them in the past. So even though the game itself might not have been great, you know you're gonna get some great mods. That's not possible anymore with the current console landscape.

bunfighterii2405d ago

The console version is rotten too. I got it on PS3 a couple days ago and the texture load issue is so ugly its unplayable, not to mention numerous design flaws.

MWH2405d ago (Edited 2405d ago )

it's a great disappointment from id, a proof that their lackluster of desing and creativity. but honestly, it wasn't something completely unexpected, at least not to some.

it goes back to Quake II, the game was received with bells and whistles but many avid gamers did feel that something was not on par with genre definers like DOOM and Quake 1. some reviewers reconsidered their scores even.

evident proof of id's creativity loss and that its creativity was driven and amplified by a certain man, that man was creative game designer John Romero.

regardless to the fact he wasn't as successful outside id, without any doubt Romero still has it and i'd love nothing more but to see him work with Carmack on DOOM, Quake and others and together with the team reset and reshape id's future back to its true leading position.

my vote for id should re-invent itself and consider getting him back if they can and set things right. Carmack goes back to his thing and Romero to his. when these two worked together, of course with the fantastic team there was, they made gaming history.

id, if you're smart, call Romero.

Heartnet2405d ago

Console ports mean nothing to a PC nowadays.. Almost everygame that is on console was designed for console as every developer and publisher knows thats where the money lies...

Hell all ur beloved games that are multi play such as Skyrim, bf3 etc will have all been developed with the console coming first... its a sad truth to pc gamers but it is the only truth :)

and btw rage is not crap... It has no graphics options because it simply does not need them... it adjusts them to run at 60fps on ur machine which imo isnt a bad thing and makes life easier.. Rage is a solid game with little flaws apart from you found it boring :L Others have enjoyed it thoroughly including me and so that justifys it not being crap :)

and epic making doom? lol no they shud stick to TPS as thats the only thing there good at now :) And if they did it would be a crappy console port :) just go out and buy a 60£ xbox and ull soon see thats the way to go :) same experience for less :)

Arnon2405d ago (Edited 2405d ago )

Then why is BF3 on PC a generational leap compared to consoles on Very-high, with twice the number of players, twice the resolution, twice the framerate, with DX11 tessellation?

The same going for The Witcher 2 as well?

EVILDEAD3602405d ago (Edited 2405d ago )

Who cares about the haters...I'll take Rage 2

I love this game..

Doom 4 will show up on the next console. Carmack admitted to the development issues of trying to develop across all platforms at the same time.

Either way I love the game. it's a shame Kotaku gets to take cheap shots at it with a rumored report.


DeadlyFire2405d ago

Indefinite postponement of DOOM 4 doesn't have to do with RAGE I don't believe. I believe it has to do with hints of PS4 also being in development for E3 2012 showcase. Its wise to hold up and rebuild the game across a few more platforms. :P Just my two cents though.

snipes1012405d ago

Though I think people go a little far calling the game "crap" I found the game to be painfully dry. 5 or so years ago, this game might have been fresh. Now, it's just plain. No, nothing is original anymore, but most games have a hook to either hide that or make the obvious fact that it is unoriginal a non-issue. Rage had neither.

Carmac should seriously just stick to making engines and then give them to more creative developers. He's talented and creative when it comes to making game engines, but when it comes to implementing those into fresh experiences, he falls flat.

He helped pioneer the FPS, sure. But he has not done anything with it half as creative as anyone else has since then.

darthv722404d ago

Did has nintendo postponed a mario game because one of their other games didnt sell well? Or sega with a sonic game?

Point being Doom is their bread and butter. So what if a spin off project didnt do so hot. They know they always have doom/quake as their go to so them postponing doom 4 is not in the least.

Besides, the two games have nothing to do with each other. Had this been a "Rage 2 indefinitely postponed" then I would believe it.

morganfell2404d ago (Edited 2404d ago )

Bibto, I agree with what you are saying as regards Carmack. But...Carmack has been a Designer at Id...for one game. He pulled dual duty on Shadow Knights as both Designer and Programmer.

It was a "just get it out the door" title back in 1991. Although published by Softdisk where Carmack used to work it was made by Id.

As regards Id games being technical showcases, such observations are subjective to a degree. Simply put it can be a matter of opinion. I picked up Quake II at launch and for me that game was never about the technology but rather the immersion in the missions on the Strogg homeworld.

JsonHenry2404d ago

Agreed man. Compared to even the FIRST Stalker RAGE was bland and boring. And the textures are CRAP.

KaBaW2404d ago

Crap is your opinion. I think Rage is good and a fun game.

Autodidactdystopia2404d ago


does bullocks mean crazy?

Motorola2404d ago

Why is everyone blaming Carmack? Just because he's the ONLY one you know at id, means that his job is designing games?

ChrisGTR12404d ago

why would they make a sequel to doom 3. that game was the biggest piece of crap ive ever played.

BattleAxe2404d ago

Time for id to close the doors, and also time to downgrade Carmack from legend status to monkey status ASAP.

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showtimefolks2404d ago

They need to hire people who know how to do a true single player story where the actual story makes some sense with proper bosses and a proper ending. Yes ID can make beautiful looking games but there is mire to that than just how a game looks. Rage in no way a bad game but it's not what they promised. A game on 3 disks one for online 2 for single player can not and I do mean can not have a 8-10hrs story. Whe is the content if the game is on 3 disks or is it just mega textures

ID fans always defend them but I will out it like this 5 years of development means a game has to sell 2 plus million. Rage is not worth 60 it's a true example of how a 20 dollar game looks like content wise. I don't blame the publisher end of the day it's about money. So ID fans either ID starts to make better games or they should just start making engines and not worry about games

Jensen2404d ago

oh my goodness... what have i started hahaha...... oh my

Malice-Flare2405d ago

Rage wasn't a bad game, but somehow high expectations got to it. hope they still continue with Doom 4, next gen needs a Doom game...

egidem2405d ago

Oh well that sucks.
Maybe it's time I revisited Mars in Doom 3 perhaps...I haven't played the game in ages!

Hopefully I can find more about the improved texture packs as well...This will be an interesting trip down memory lane. :D

news4geeks2405d ago

I think next gen could do without a generic corridor shooter. I'm only really a fan of id's older games.

killerhog2405d ago

No doom 4 for you!!! I'm the doom nazi guy

Heishiro__Mitsurugi2405d ago

if Doom 4 was going to be smoke n' mirrors and unsatisfying like Rage, its best. wake up Carmack!

Big_Dom2404d ago

Why does Carmack need to wake up. He made an incredible engine for artists to express themselves with and it works brilliantly. The man has done his job and done it well. I wonder, if and when Doom 4 gets eventually shown with Tech 6 that will basically blow people's balls off from a visual stance will people be saying "wake up, Carmack". I doubt it.

kamakaz3md2405d ago

boy idk bout anyone else, but I thought RAGE sucked!

ginsunuva2405d ago

Everyone overhyped rage, especially gt and ign.
I said from the start it would be slightly above average, and the graphics weren't THAT amazing.

But everyone was like "No it's teh id softwaerz. They made teh doooomz."