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John Carmack crashes PC gamers' hopes for a High-Resolution Texture Pack on RAGE

DSOGaming writes: "You've probably already heard of a high resolution texture pack for RAGE was rumored to get released after its official launch. This rumored texture pack was supposed to be 150GB in size and would update the game's low-res textures with some proper, high-res ones. Well, this is not gonna happen as John Carmack admited that the source textures are almost the same as the ones that are currently used in RAGE PC."

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gravemaker2467d ago

thats one shitty textures, carmack should be ashamed of his company

BattleAxe2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

Boy oh boy, the disappointments keep rolling in for Carmack. I don't think I've ever seen someones reputation get destroyed so fast. His reputation was like the "Housing Bubble" cause by the sub-prime mortgages, it was so worthless that you knew it had to crash.

ApplEaglElephant2467d ago

While his game may not be best looking on consoles, i think he did a great job.

But on PC, he half assed the shit out of it.

kaveti66162467d ago

You've spent way too much time on this website, Battleaxe.

You're out of touch with reality.

The opinions on this site are not a reflection of the real world. Sorry to burst your bubble.

BattleAxe2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

@ Kaveti

You should talk, you joined this site 2 years after I did, and yet you've managed to make 2000 more comments than I have. Being out of touch with reality has more in common with believing that Carmack is a God or a Legend. He's neither, in fact I'd say he's a "has been" that needs to not only shut his mouth, but also to shut the doors to this studio, as they have produced nothing of any significance in the last 10 years.

elshadi2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

@ApplEaglElephant
"I can understand Low rez text for consoles, but why not PC"
he has no excuse

ohh wait ...he just tweet this as we talk:
"ahhhh...ahmmmm bec ..PC has a Tight memory, Poor IO Performance ?!!!"

@evrfighter
Agreed

evrfighter2467d ago

ive been saying for a few years now that carmack was a washed up has been.

Now people are starting to see the truth.

wicko2467d ago

Says a bunch of random people who don't understand technology. Glad your opinions are in the minority

VvKILLAGOOSEvV2467d ago

Carmack is like the stock market right now...No matter how many protests go on around the world, he still says screw you.

Iroquois_Pliskin2467d ago

after games like DOOM and Quake. i considered Carmarck a hero.... but then Rage came out,after all the hype....

NarooN2467d ago

"as they have produced nothing of any significance in the last 10 years. "

I know Carmack and his studio fucked up, but why the fuck does everyone keep saying this? They did Doom 3, which alone was pretty damn significant on Xbox and PC. To deny that is a fucking joke. They also helped with Quake 4, another big PC release.

Just because they didn't have a lot of presence on consoles back then doesn't mean shit.

DeadlyFire2467d ago

Do you guys really think this bothers the PC community? Have you not seen what gamers have given DOOM 3 with their own created High-Res Texture pack. Does a PC gamer need some extra crap like that on a disc? We already have visual lead.

I personally believe PC edition should have only shipped with High-Res textures and no low res ones, but hey can't change that. Just build a Texture pack and throw it in the game. Its moddable anyway since its on the PC platform. Just give it some time. Someone will do it.

Perjoss2467d ago

kaveti6616 is 100% right, a bunch of raving haters does not = all gamers. Just remember that people that love Rage will not seek out a forum to rave about it, they will be playing it!

Carmack's biggest mistake with Rage was putting such a high priority on 5+ year old technology (consoles) instead of focusing on PC. I get the feeling future games from id will be different, they will still be tech 5 but optimised for PC and I can't wait.

I'm not anti-console, there are plenty of amazing developers that focus heavily on consoles so it will make no difference to console gamers if id turns back to its roots.

Darrius Cole2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

I agree with Perjoss. I am a console gamer (PS2, Xbox, PS3, 360, PSP) and have never bought a game on PC, at least not yet.

I think developers get greedy and become dissatisfied 'being what they are'. It looks like Carmack and ID are PC developers who saw the console pasture and thought it was greener but forgot to take care of their real base first. You can tell where their real base is by looking at who care most when they screw up. Clearly PC guys are more offended by Rage. ID should have said to themselves, "We are PC developers first, most of our fans and games are on PC."

Rage should have been made to PC gamers expectations and then ported to consoles as best they could port. The fact is, once Uncharted 3 and Modern Warfare release, in 2 and 3 weeks respectively; console gamers won't give Rage another moments consideration. More importantly they won't sell any more copies on either console. Rage will be totally forgotten.

I suppose ID saw the success of the Elder Scrolls and Battlefield series in moving over from PC and wanted to try doing that themselves. But so far they have fallen short, they have done anything that console gamers would miss. BF and ES took care of the home base first (have you seen the BF3 PC footage?)

Console gamers won't care one bit if ID goes back to their PC roots.

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InNomeDiDio2467d ago

It was the FIRST TEST according to the High Res Textures. Keep it easy people ...

elshadi2467d ago

and yet there is still sad trolls believe any thing poor carmack say
and i'm very happy that he failed
he screwed the pc/ps3 versions
bec he's in love with xbox

stevenhiggster2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

I don't want to sound like a crazy fanboy or anything, but he really just should have made the game a 360 exclusive.
They've well and truly ballsed the PC version and he does nothing but bad mouth the PS3!

Ducky2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

^ I'm playing Rage on PC.

Get a constant 60fps and the game has some of the best visuals-over-performance ratio of any game I've played on my PC so far.
... and this is on an ATI GPU as well.

The launch was a bit rough, but the last patch fixed most of my woes.
Textures also appear fine to me.
I feel like I'm playing in concept art.

Don't see why the game should've been exclusive to 360.

TheDivine2467d ago

How did he screw the ps3 version? I have the ps3 version and its among the best looking titles ive played on ps3 and it has a steady 60fps. Only problem is texture popin that you have to look for. You only notice it if you spin around really fast and look for it. This game on consoles is a technical marvel and its fun as hell.

cjflora2467d ago

Not me, EVERY time I turn the camera I have very slow and distracting texture pop in. I would almost prefer they just stay low texture so that it isn't so distracting. The only time the game looks nice is when I'm not moving, which isn't very often.

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aawells072467d ago

Your comment doesnt make sense. Do you always post nonsense?

qwertyz2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

you can unlock higher res textures for RAGE by editing the config file but you'll need vram but even with 1gb you can still double the texture resolution without having much of an issue. even without advanced settings tweaked and all the problems with the pc version it still looks better on my high end rig nvidia powered rig than anything on consoles :/ PC FTW!!!!!

yeah the pc version of course could have looked MUCH better if carmack had shifted his focus from 360 and spend more time on the oc version but well looks like hes an xbot because the ps3 version was also inferior to the 360 version in the visual and performance departments(proven by digital foundries)and with far more texture pop-ins than the 360 version running without ANY hdd install which is complete B.S because the ps3 version requires an 8gb MANDATORY install

Darrius Cole2467d ago

Yeah, PS3 gamers, like myself, are really going to love that(sarcasm)....spending 8GB of storage for what is still a weaker performance. It looks like ID got almost finished with development and realized that they made a broken and unplayable PS3 game, and Sony bailed them out by allowing an 8GB installation in order to make the game playable.

caperjim2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

I dont understand why the PC version was the same price as consoles. Usually games are at least $10 cheaper at launch. I was expecting more for the price i payed. Especially with all the hype with this game.

thedarkvault2467d ago

yeah I want to pick it up for PC eventually, but not @ 60. I'll wait until its between 30-40 before it's worth getting. Save my 60 for BF3.

caperjim2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

@thedarkvault
Shouldnt be too long before the price drops. Its not a bad game but most gamers expected more for the price and the hype around it.

My game ran great on my GTX580 so texture loading wasnt an issue for me. I just found it very linear, repetitive with very little exploring.

DragonKnight2467d ago

Despite what you've been told, a $60 price tag is NOT just the result of packaging and marketing adding to the price. It's what the publisher wants to charge for the game. If PC games are $50 it's because that's what the Publisher wants to charge, simple as that. Entitlement is foolish.

trancefreak2467d ago

It is the new trend and I don't really see it stopping.

If they want to starve pc gamers of good games then the pricing will continue and take note more PC gamers will just not buy the product. Its not even that though medal of honor sucked IMO and it was 59.99 U.S I guess that is EA games for ya along with activision.

Company's have their pricing model in place and PC games should be 10 dollars cheaper but they believe feel that they should sell them for the same amount as console? why? Greed for the green and since console gamers pay that price why not tap the PC gamers as well.

We all know of the console Licensing fees so why should we pay the extra bucks. That is the question.

Im not really stating facts or sources but its just what I have observed from recent trends. An example being crysis 2 shipping with so many problems - DX11 and high end gaming options. Even with all the fixes that game does not deserve its price.

Crytek wont even support the game crysis 2 anymore. There are known issues for the game and they are dropping patch support for these issues along with their broken online hack fest that made most online gamers just move on. They have no community interaction and I wont buy Crytek products anymore.

Valve still sells their games for a fair price and they support them for ever. More company's' need to follow the valve model.

It also appears taking Cryengine 3 and Now IDTech 5 that when they release their game with the new game engine their seems to to be big issues technically and unfortunately.

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ATi_Elite2467d ago

Carmack is this Months official Ass Clown!

He has blamed everybody and everything else for Rage's issues except himself! I NO Longer have any respect for Carmack and the guy is a total dooche bag!

instead of just being a man and apologizing to Gamers and fixing his game he has blamed AMD, Nvidia, PC Gamers, The Cell, The PS3, Microsoft, Xbox360 designers, Pc Gamers again, and other horse crap for the performance and texture issues of Rage!

Carmack is a Jerk and a "Has been" Dev who hasn't done anything since Doom and Quake!

beardtm2467d ago

so much for MEGATEXTURES...

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decrypt2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

We wont be buying your game either Lolmack, too many other good releases to even bother.

StayStatic2467d ago

indeed , gameover , for now at least...

Horny2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

i was caught in the hype and bought it. I was already pissed about no reviews being out which I wish I would have waited for. Its not really open world and there is no story. You are just an errand boy doing stuff for people. Wasnt blown away by the graphics or detail. I liked some of the backgrounds like the pile of bodies in the first hideout and the skulls but everything has shitty textures and seems 2d when you got up close.
I ended up selling on craiglist.

turgore2467d ago

Ill buy it when its like 20 bucks.

pumpactionpimp2467d ago

If BRINK is any indication, it will be $19.99 in 2 months.

cjflora2467d ago

Maybe wait until it's like $10.

Hufandpuf2467d ago

Looks like all that RAGE hype went right down the drain.

ReservoirDog3162467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

I honestly never bought into Rage. It just never seemed good to me.

Always said id are great on the technical side but the gameplay and story just seem lacking. And now I guess I was wrong about the technical side.

edit: @ below

Yeah but I can barely care about graphics. I'm sure it's good for id but there's too little money in the world to buy Rage.

Aggesan2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

I used to think the same way as u used to, but that changed with Rage. I actually really enjoy the game, and it's really pretty as long as you don't get too close to the textures (then yes, it lookes like crap). The weapons, artstyle, setting and characters are easily the best I've seen in a game from ID so far.

Sarcasm2467d ago

The biggest lacking point of Rage is the gameplay. It's pretty boring and repetitive.

1. Talk to NPC.
2. NPC tells you to talk to other NPC.
3. Talk to other NPC which tells you to talk to another NPC.
4. NPC then sends you on a mission to kill X amount of enemies.
5. Return to NPC and then tells you again to talk to another NPC.
6. Rinse and repeat.

Im not sure how the rest of the game is because I didn't get that far enough.

Graphics do look great though, but it's like seeing a super hot woman who has a pimple on her nose. The blurry textures ruin the overall high resolution look of the game, and the strange random frame drops in car combat (even though fraps is showing it's locked at 60fps) is puzzling. And don't get me started on the texture pop ups when looking around.

bumnut2467d ago

Your comment describes most games.

Johnny_Cojones2467d ago (Edited 2467d ago )

If there's someplace you know that has a bunch of super hot chicks with pimples on their noses, & no one else wants to bone them, let me know about it.

zero_gamer2467d ago

@bumnut:

And most games billed as "zOMG AAAA BLOKBUSTAR ACTIONZ" nowadays suck, IMO anyway.

vortis2467d ago

@bumnut

That's the problem with today's generation of games. Quite sad really.

At least Deux Ex, Heavy Rain the original BioShock, GTA and Saints Row sort of steer away from the norm. The problem is that we don't get enough games like that.

Sarcasm2466d ago

Johnny, I didn't say nobody wanted to bone those super hot women with a pimple on their nose, I simply mean that Rage is a fantastic looking game but marred by random visual defects which stops it from being 100% pure eye candy.

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ZombieAssassin2467d ago

I'm sure the PC mod community will have something cooked up eventually.

Johnny_Cojones2467d ago

That's what I was thinking. By Spring, Qarl or Maldo, or whomever, will release a nice high res texture pack.

john22467d ago

Hopefully someone will, though it might be a pain in the ass with how megatexture works

MrGunny942467d ago

Who cares! John stop being retarded to the PC community, it was us who made what you are today... we don't need your help anyways... Our Mods team will do better work then you.. just look at Crysis 1 mods...

Anyways most of pc gamers pirated this bcuz we all knew this was gonna be a cheap port like Crysis 2... but crytek did the pack so it's okay with them

turgore2467d ago

thanks for telling him that. Now he won't even bother.

zero_gamer2467d ago

This whole rebellious "pirate cuz it sux" is getting a bit ridiculous don't you think? Much of the reasons behind developers focusing on consoles over the PC is due to piracy. They see pirated copies as lost potential sales and many devs have lost confidence in PC gaming as a result.

I for one don't pirate PC games because of my respect for the platform and want to support it with my wallet. I have not purchased RAGE because I am not liking what the gamers say about the PC version. I'll purchase this game once it hits the bargain bin and patched up to the point the game is actually in a playable state.

vortis2467d ago

Steamworks > piracy.

They want to avoid piracy? How about make the game digital download only. Yeah there's still a way around Steam just like there are still ways to pirate Xbox 360/PS3 games, but if they really wanted to win back PC gamers they would stop treating the community like $2 hoes and instead start treating the community like $1000 escorts.

Just saying.