Check out the September NPD data for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, Wii, 3DS, and DS.
Price drop helped PS3 more than i thought, especially compared to the sales of previous months. That means Vgchartz were undertracking the PS3 by about 100k and overtracking the 3DS by 130k. Good stuff all around. Everything increased apart from the DS.
Excellent sales across every platform! Price drop did help PS3. Considering that PS3 is STILL the most expensive HD console out there, those are good sales right there! The real competition will start when there is a $199 PS3 to match the $199 360 but I guess, by the time the basic PS3 console is sold for $199, we'll have a $99 to $140 360. Microsoft has really locked down NA region this gen and their marketing does them wonders! There is no doubt that PS3 has far more exclusives than 360 but Sony's marketing is pathetic compared to Microsoft. Their most recent LONG LIVE PLAY AD has to be perhaps the BEST video game EVER yet, I don't see it running on channels. I don't even know if it's running anymore. I hardly ever see any Sony ads on channels like G4, Spike etc. C'mon Sony, you have a THUNDER of an ad, RUN THE F*** out of it! And to Microsoft, I must say, GREAT JOB!
I'm pretty sure in Canada PS3 is more popular. Live is 360s main selling point and in Canada we get half of the services for the same price. Also, everything on 360 is more expensive than on PS3 up here due to MS charging mor for MS points in Canada than in the US. Not that the above make a major difference on NA sales, Canada's entire population is only around 30 mill.
Bah, NDP is a crap barometer anyway. It doesn't include Walmart or any online retailers like amazon. I dont think i've bought a game from anywhere other then those two sources in years.
These are crucial months for the sells in the U.S. September, October and November can be decisive in this year sales. Black Friday can be this day when eveything gonna be decided. December and Christmas time gonna see all the bundles fight for the first place. And this year there are pretty good bundles and nice price for each console.
Yep you are correct my friend, but some still swear by vgchartz. The PS3 is a lot closer to the 360 than what vgchartz shows.
Americas vs US Chartz includes South America and Canada.
you realize npd only tracks 60 percent of sales in the US. That 40 percent is just floating out there. So really we have no idea if vg chartz is even more accurate or not
NPD's sample size was reported by NPD as being about 60% a few years back, where VGchartz reportedly has a sample size of about 1% and then extrapolate the rest. NPD is pretty well regarded, but the only real numbers come from the companies themselves. Quarterly update is due later this month from each company. Good numbers for the PS3. Up almost 20% over last year at this time. That's massive. Looks like the price cut is working out for them in NA. Wii's doing about the same which surprises me. I thought it was falling off. 360 is down about 10% compared to last year. So interesting month. Big gains for the PS3, even steven for the Wii, sizable loss for the 360. I wonder if this is a bit of foreshadowing for the holiday season in the US?
@Dark Good god Darkride. Can you show your PS fanboy colors anymore? "Sizable loss for the Xbox360" You are the biggest hypocrite on this site. You criticize MS when they price drop their system and sales rise...However when Sony does it...well..you know what you say... Another thing: If the Xbox360 has a sizable loss as you want to claim, it still beat out the PS3 regardless. PLEASE. Stop posting rubbish.
"it still beat out the PS3 regardless. " hmm.....only in misinformed/brainwashed region, not worlwide ! (since forever)
Whats your source for the numbers you are throwing out?
It seems that the Xbox 360 dominance in USA will prevail until the rest of the generation... in HD consoles that is.
Those are pretty good sales for 360 and PS3. I like it! The more popular gaming is the better.
Here, here...well said and bubble. I am happy to see all doing well. It was a solid month across the board. Even the Wii sold pretty well considering it has had very little in the way of new software coming out.
Is anyone else amazed that the 360 continues to sell so well in NA? PS3 is now cheaper, and has way more exclusives, but consumers are still choosing to purchase the 360. I figured by now, they would be pretty much even month to month, or even Sony ahead by a bit, but that hasn't been the case. I own both, so it's hard to put myself in the shoes of someone going out to buy their first console. Must be something appealing about 360 though...
microsoft marketing makes it sound that you don't need a ps3 and xbox 360 does it all.
Many people buy what their friends have. Since the 360 came out first, people were attached to that system and Live first and encouraged their friends to get it.
This is MS home territory and they have a strong hold on many marketing avenues. Considering that fact, I think Sony's sales very impressive here, although they really could be even higher. The price point is another important factor. @ below saying worldwide sales don't matter. Please explain how the total number of sales doesn't matter.
You say you own both and then go and make a remark of "Must be something appealing about 360 though....", what made YOU buy it? @jp_footy2 It is quite the opposite in marketing in NA. Sony makes the ads stating that it does everything and you don't need anything else. MS basically sells their games with some advertising style that works for NA. The only Sony Ad that I think has been produced that has been good for Sony and NA was the latest one with the bar scene and the game characters. @cyclonus007 You have hit it on the head. Xbox 360 was the first to the block and kids wanted to get it because their friends had it. But a lot of that had to do with the original Xbox marketing themselves over PS2 and being much better then the PS2 and then quickly jumping into the next generation before PS3. NA gamers new the Xbox was a better system then the PS2 and when the Xbox 360 came out it was a no brainer to think that it was far and above all systems. Sony was just too little too late too expensive at the time. Sony could have fought the good fight and almost bullied MS if it could have gotten a lower initial selling price. But the we do everything with the added benefit of taking all your money was not as marketable to the NA market, mainly only to the PlayStation diehards and loyalists. @clearlite To think that MS has some magical marketing avenue hold is ludicrous. Sony is and always has had an excellent marketing avenue in the US and the world with their video merchandising and Movie tie ins and DVD sales. Sony's problem had nothing to do with not having the marketing avenues that Microsoft had... it was purely the arrogance of their leadership that pushed the marketing into the we are better and look how expensive we are to prove it mentality. NA consumers don't play that game.
Xbox is still cheaper @ $200 bucks and even though it's a pretty bare bones model, the avg consumer won't know or care. The PS3 is doing mighty good and WW, it's surely outselling the 360 on a monthly basis. Great numbers all around.
@clearlite, I always save such posts. And when April rolls around and the official World Wide numbers are released by the companies it is always funny such persons disappear.
PS2 absolutely abolished the xbox despite that the xbox had better hardware(kinda opposite of the current situation). Sony had really set them selves up for glory at the start of the current generation, with a huge backport library and the renown of the PS2. However they ended up dropping the ball with, bad marketing, unatractive pricing and being late to market. There was of course also the Wii which took everyone by surprise. However ignoring the Wii, i would've had put my money on PS3 Mega pwning the 360. Instead Ps3 has been trailing 360, up until now, where are alot of us expected it to be miles ahead, not on par.
@ Legion - I bought a 360 for certain exclusives I was unable to play on PS3, and a few multiplats that play much better on 360 (such as Orange Box, Bayonetta, etc). Seems like a large investment to play so few games, but I got the 4GB model on sale for $129 so I think it was worth it. Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect were awesome games. Glad I got to play them. What I meant by my comment was that there must be something very appealing about the 360 to make consumers in NA constantly, month after month, choose it over PS3. Personally, I don't see what it is, but it's obviously there... numbers don't lie. LOL at the disagrees I got in my original post. I tried to be as diplomatic as possible, so I'm not sure who I offendded...
and price drop helping ps3, both 360 and ps3 sold well. competition is great to push these companies forward everyone should own both in my humble opinion
xbox360 sells like crack evey month. Ms knows how to move consoles.
I'm positive Crack sells much more with a much higher profit margin.
And if it explodes its generally the users fault
yes they do, they give them away with every Dell laptop that sells! They just market different!
The day PS3 fanboys can figure out that America is the BIGGEST part of the gaming industry's market, is the day there will be mass suicides around the world. PS3 fanboys haven't been earning any A's on their psychic report card, because if they did, the PS3 would be ahead by several million in sales by now and the 360 would have died out over a year ago. You people obviously haven't gotten anything right since the PS3 launched, what makes you think you're all experts now?
Why do some Xbox 360 fanboys ignore the other markets worldwide? While it's certainly true that North America is currently the largest video game market, you cannot discount the other markets worldwide. The console companies obviously don't ignore the rest of the world, given the millions of dollars MS spent at the beginning of this generation in its attempt to succeed in the Japanese market. The companies care about their bottom lines. If MS leads Sony by 100,000 consoles in NA in a given month, but Sony leads MS by 175,000 consoles in those other markets in the same month, that means PS3 outsold 360 by 75k units in that month worldwide. It's simple math.
I never discounted anything. I only stated a fact. North America is the biggest market and makes the most money for the industry. When talking worldwide, are you talking bigger regions, or smaller countries? Smaller countries help but do not put out numbers like North America, Europe, or Japan. Combining countries and stringing sales together do not show anything but overall sales. Useful to know, but shallow in reality. What do small countries do for sale growth and market share if the market isn't as alive as the 3 big hitters? Every little bit helps, but sales won't be consistent in small areas. Obviously growth will be better in the larger markets. Bigger market = more profits, happy developers, and a better selling structure for the future of games and the specific console. If you are dominating Europe and compare that to dominating North America, that's not always going to automatically equal more profit but NA has the biggest foot over sales, so dominating that region is very important for growth. All markets are relevant, but the biggest one will always make the most money and be more important for the long run and help develop your platform much faster.
I'm very impressed with PS3 performance....Wow. didn't see that coming.
I agree, it was a pretty big leap in comparison to previous months. However, the 360 is still doing extremely well. Congrats to both i say. :D
Ps3 is gaining space in America.
Yeah... only 12 million to go.
Nothing new hear the 360 has dominated t the hardware sales the last 15 months The 360 is americas choice for some awesome gaming.
this month you can't talk about domination, since ps3 is doing very well (and continue more than ever his domination worlwide) "Even with a price cut, bluray drive and all these awesome exclusives i keep hearing about, the PS3 STILL can't pass the 360 in NA." SO ? you can say the same thing about best movies vs blockbusters for dumb americans, always leading the charts. [email protected]"i keep hearing about" helllllo, it's the reality, you have to wake up ! "Keep up the good work Microsoft" Lol, see, they are brainwashed and even when microsoft is clearly not giving their best to the customers (exclusives, etc) fannboyz are happy.
Are you an American?
Look, I love my PS3. I could care less who sells more or who sells less. I don't know about you guys but I can't play sales on my console of choice. Can you? If so, I hope its a ton of fun since you guys keep boasting about it. While you do that I'll enjoy my games.
I like to look at the figures purely out of curiosity but i agree, not sure why people act like the world would end if their console did not sell better.
If you want to view sales and not have to deal with the crazies you can check out the worldwide sales posts. For some reason you don't find them there.
Biggest. That's because the crazies (PS fanboys) are much happier seeing those numbers since it gives them hope. False hope but hope nonetheless. You could provide a nice little link for thoses numbers Biggest. We all want to see them. Even with a price cut, bluray drive and all these awesome exclusives i keep hearing about, the PS3 STILL can't pass the 360 in NA.
You need a link? N4G.com/ There is a worldwide sales article posted every month. As I said. . . The crazies usually stay away from those articles (which is probably why you know nothing about them). Unfortunately there has been a little chest thumping because of the Gears of War sales bump. Once that dies down it'll go back to normal.
HAHAAHAHHA WTF is a "console of choice" If you dont care about sales then why make a comment saying you dont care? If your enjoying games so much, why waste time commenting about something that you are so above caring about. I have games to play too, but I still am commenting because it interests me to see my two "consoles of choice" above "my console of not choice" the wii. Im just wondering why so many people who "dont care about sales" click on the link, look at the sales, then comment about how much they are not caring. if Ps3 is your console of choice then you should be glad to look at these numbers as its had a huge boost and is doing great and especially destroying the wii.
I think the comment made by BitbyDeath pretty much answers your question here. Its more about curiosity then being like Solar above who claims World Wide sales mean less then US sales. And a "Console of choice" is the console one would choose to do the majority of their gaming for whatever reason that person chooses. Be it exclusives, price, friends, or brand loyalty. Personally? I have all consoles, and love each one for specific reasons. PS3 is my "Console of choice" for a few different reasons. First i enjoy there first party line up very much. Uncharted, God of War, Infamous, LBP, and so on have me hooked. Yet there are still ones i could care less about, IE Gran Turismo. Another reason is because online play is free. And yet another is many of my friends game on PS3. I have the Wii for its exclusives, such as Zelda, Mario, and Metroid. But there are others that matter. Nintendo has been around from the beginning for me, so their games will always have a special place in my heart. Microsoft i didnt jump on until this generation. I have honestly never cared for their franchises to much. Other than the less popular ones. I have played and beaten every Halo, and Gears (except 3 as i have yet to pick it up) and Fable. In my opinion Halo has dropped in quality since 1 (save for Reach, it was a MUCH needed improvement overall.) Fable has done the same thing, and looks to only be dropping further with the Fable Kinect game. Gears, is the one exception for me that so far has only gotten better since 1. But overall its still a very good system to have, and one worthy to have under your TV. There is more i could say, but more or less read Solar's comment above (you will need to unhide it as it is blocked for trolling) and then read DrPractical's above, and you will see a considerable difference in tone, and just pure sense. I "care" about sales because its a point of interest for me, and i have a few points to make to some fanboy friends of mine. Plus, its a good conversation to bring up when it comes to certain conversations.
@ Solidus187-SCMilk Okay, question. When you're driving down the highway, (assuming you're old enough to drive) and there's an accident on the shoulder, how much do you really care about what happened? Do you get out to ask questions, call the police or give a statement? Or do you just take a glance and keep on moving? Me personally, I take a glance and get on my way. I don't really care before or after the glance but I pay attention during the glance. The same applies to most articles on this site. I skim through and take glances at most not really caring about much of what they have to say before or after I've finished reading through them. Just glancing and commenting as I pass by. You don't have to care about something to read or even comment on it. So, I'll give you an ovation for the little bit of wit you were able to conjure up but I'll also encourage you to think a little bit before you speak as not to sound like a total douche.
Okay, so you supposedly don't care about sales and you come to an NPD thread that is about sales to announce that? WTF? How does that even work? You should go on a lacrosse forum and tell everyone that you don't care about lacrosse too.
Look at N4G as a long hallway filled with doors. Each door is a different article. You walk down the hallway popping your head in, listening to the topic for a bit, then leaving. So, if you're standing in a room of people who are all talking about sales, why would you have an issue with someone saying,"I don't care about sales"? You would probably tell them to leave and continue your discussion. Not paying them very much attention. If you think I'm foolish then ignore me. "Never argue with a fool because from a distance, no one can tell who is whom"
Couldn't care less!!!!********************** **** ****************************** * **** FFS ¬¬
Can we just set the finish line at 60 million and call it there? Or will this go on forever?
Not until you can no longer purchase a "new" one from a store not second hand LOL
my toy is better then your toy haha haha lol! i just simplified everyone's comments and look how stupid it sounds! we all have so many great games to play on all the systems that are out so lets have fun and screw the sales!
People only make comments like yours because 360 came out on top AGAIN. If it were PS3 outselling 360 month after month, USA or World wouldn't matter, and no one would be complaining, everyone would be just ripping Microsoft, telling them to just give up, and going on about how great the PS3 and Sony are. Sales would suddenly be the only thing that mattered, and all the gaming sites would have bold head lines on the front page, "PS3 continues to DOMINATE!!!" Sony would proudly be reporting their NPD sales numbers every month also.
The PS3 had been outselling the 360 month after month after month worldwide for the longest time. You didn't see very many articles about it because it doesn't feel good to people like you, EarthLover.
You didnt see articles about that because there was no proof of it. All we had was fanboy speculation, and high hopes. The only thing we know for sure is that last time Sony and MS officially reported, PS3 was NOT outselling 360 world wide. @Ares90 the cheapest Xbox is 199, not 99.
Im surprised PS3 didnt outsell 360 in the USA this time given the price cut. 360 is just a beast in the states, and it seems to be holding its own world wide as well since PS3 has still not passed it after all these years.
just remember, cheapest ps3 $249 cheapest 360 $99 just saying
ahahhaahhahahahahah funny, you seemed to chop off $100 from the real price of the "cheapest 360." Yeah for 199 you can get a 360 with no hard drive or bluray player or free internet, and yet people would still rather buy it than pay 50$ for all the extras a ps3 comes with compared to that. 250 is not expensive for a ps3 at all I dont think
cheap doesn't mean anything,gamecube was the cheapest and didn't sell.
please tell me where there is a 360 for 99 bucks. i think you are thinking about when they were moving all the white 360 to make room for the new xbox s.
Those are alright 3DS numbers. The heavy hitters are going to help things greatly this holiday IMO.
What the f happened? the 3ds was selling like 80k a month and now its 240k? Wtf, why do people like these stupid nintendo products?
The biggest gaming market in the WORLD loves the 360. Even with a price cut the ps3 still can't........oh forget it! I think the numbers tell the story. I wonder what will happen when the 360 drops it's price. Sony is already heading for it's eighth straight annual loss on it's tv division. The euro's tumble against the yen ain't helping sony. Looks like a gloomy christmas season for them. Good time for MS to drop price.
Yeah the Xbox is selling more in the biggest gaming market in the world. Too bad America isn't the world and that the PS3 is outselling the Xbox in EVERY other market except for America and the UK, MS done a good job on keeping the US market though.
I was one of those Xbox's. Funny I almost feel bad I did that to Sony....Almost.
Its like everyone says the exact same thing every time the sales figures come out.As far as i have seen Sony seems to be doing very well worldwide and in NA.Look at the data. PS3 is only down by a measly 60,000 units and fanboys and trolls is running around as if its some sort of big achievement. I mean I would think by now people would stop celebrating slight leads by now. Has the 360 passed the Wii or surpassed the PS3 yet? No it hasn't.The PS2 and PS1 surpassed the competition by tens of millions of units but people jump around at the smallest gaps in sales between the PS3 and 360.*shakes head* Whatever