Eurogamer: "The Batman: Arkham City online pass unlocks Catwoman as a playable character, it has been revealed."
oh ffs... Online Passes for SP games? Really? Now not only will every MP game have Online passes, but now SP games also.
I've said this before - this online implementation is getting OUT OF CONTROL. This is ridiculous! Next thing you know we'll have single player sections cut out for us just because you bought a used game...oh wait, Rage is already doing that!
Could be worse like DRM with Online Pass. I do agree this is now getting out of hand. It's not about making extra money as much as it is about the hackers out there stealing this game. Online Pass Unlocking 5kb downloads Updates Single Player Auto Saving DRM Started this gen, ruining gaming becuase it's being done wrong and taken out of control
This is absolutely disgusting. People call piracy theft but this is blatant theft in my opinion. You supply the game on the disc. A customer pays for the disc. Then you withhold some of the data then tell the customer you have to pay extra for a part of the disc's content because he/she bought it all second hand. And also what about the people who do not connect their consoles online? Does the pass work offline? I doubt it. So people who don't connect online will be not be able to play a part of the game for absolutely no justifiable reason. Anyone who agrees with this is retarded period and a sheep.
Just wondering, lol, but how does 'Single Player Auto Saving' ruin gaming? Are you referring to the likes of 'casualizing' games, making them 'easier?' If that's what you mean, than sure. But it sure comes in handy elsewhere. I can't stand playing a game, for hours, with no auto save.. and, then bam! Power Outage. Now, you've just lost hours of gaming. Hours and hours lost. And, that has nothing to do with making it easier for gamers who suck...
It takes the piss. They make out the second hand market is all bad, but any other consumable I buy can be sold on as I see fit... why different for games? If they feel they are losing out on money, maybe they shouldn't have over saturated the market with poor half arsed titles that put people off of spending their hard earned monies... Show a bit of class and quality and you'll get my pennies... Constantly rip me off and try and squeeze my wallet dry and I'll become stubborn and give you fuck all.
Lol, that made me laugh. It's sad but true. Things are getting out of hand.
Hmm just read the IGN review. It seems that the Catwoman review isn't included on the disc but is available to download from launch. While not on the disc itself, it's the same concept. Catwoman missions could have been included on the disc but wasn't so that Warner Bros could get some more cash. Greed is what destroys industries.
LMFAO.. Batman Arkham City has ONLINE PASS?? This is one good joke..
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Unlocks Catwoman.. woopty doo!
Her missions make up 10% of the game. So pretty much if you don't have xbox live or psn, you are only getting 90% of what you paid for. Nice.
No one ever complains about how if they don't pay for Live they can't play online which makes up much more than 10% of games now.
we dont complain that we cant play online, but atleast we getting the option which we are paying for. i dont have online <it sucks> but im still paying the full price like online gamers so it better come with multiplayer. if i use it its up to me. but this is just ridiculous. now i cant even finish the SP 100%.
to your comment below... if its on the disc, why cant i just play it when i buy the game? whats the need for an online pass?
Now that we are approaching a more digital gaming environment, online passes serve a few purposes for game companies: 1. Making sure the people that are playing your game actually paid for it (piracy protection) 2. Ensuring the people who made the game are receiving some form of compensation for their work (developers get nothing from used game sales) 3. Providing incentives for those consumers who decide to buy games at full price (ie. not renting, buying used, or borrowing) Seeing as how game companies assume everyone has their consoles hooked up to the internet, I can see how (for someone who doesn't) the online pass would be an issue. But outside of that, I have no problem with the pass system because I buy my games new. A number of people don't and that number is high enough that companies are using the online pass to protect their revenue stream. Not that I blame them. The truth is, in this situation, you aren't losing anything. The bonus content is there but you don't have a way of redeeming it until you have internet access. There's no expiration date so you will still be able to access it at a later time.
No one ever complains? I complain. I complain plenty. But at least I don't need xbox live gold to play single player games. With this however, those without internet cannot play 10% of what is on their brand new game. Not the same thing.
so il wait till its 90% of the original price. it sucks i know.
Would you feel better if the Catwoman missions were free DLC that you still couldn't get because you don't have internet? Or would you still complain that the content should have been on the disk (like it actually is in this case)? If the missions are locked on the disk then they are supplemental and must have no actual bearing on the main story.
And, how this is a problem?
It's a problem because the whole idea is counter-intuative. Some people cite the reason behind online passes is to combat piracy, or to make back money "lost" to the pre-owned market. Lets take reason one - it harms two types of customers - the preowned and the rental. Neither of which are pirates and are paying to either borrow the disc and it's associated content, or buying the disc outright (in the case of preowned). There are a lot of people out there who just simply won't rent or buy (preowned) at all for this reason. Hell, they might even pirate it just to stick the finger up at the publisher. A further look at reason two, that the company is trying to make back money lost through preowned, is very weak. Heres a link that suggests that the publisher EA only made 10 - 15 million dollars from online passses. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... That is a very very small amount of money compared to the preowned market and the fact that EA has so many online passes and that's a combined revenue. The fact is, the online pass doesnt work in that respect. Then there are the ethical implications, the preowned market is good for the consumer. Buying a game preowned can save us a lot of money, as well as giving us more choice on what we purchase (e.g. games that have been discontinued can still be brought). On top of that making a new game for everyone who wants to buy it, rather than having a preowned market would be terrible for our already endangered planet. Just don't take into account the production costs of the discs, packaging and manuals but also the pollution cost of transporting those discs to stores. What I'm trying to say, is that it shows publishers are too concerned with money and pirates, when they should be more concerned with the happiness of the customer (and to some degree the environment). There is only one solution that will stop preowned sales and that is a switch to primarily digital distribution. However, that switchover will almost definitely increase piracy (just look at the music industry, as a casing point).
Greedy bastards! Oh well, still picking this one up later today from my local game store. FU Gamestop!!!
Dont feel like playing wit Catwomen so I think I wouldn't use the online pass
It would appear to me that maybe RockSteady grew an ego, after making Batman:AA. Cause, they sure have been some greedy assholes during the making of this game.
I'm pretty sure rocksteady and all game developers in general have nothing to do with these decisions, i believe it's more in the hands of the publisher. But yah, being greedy like this should be a crime.
You may be right, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had a say in it.
Should be renamed, We want ya money Pa$$.
Wow just wow
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