According to Saber Interactive CEO, Matthew Karch, who's currently heading up the Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary single-player campaign, "phenomenal things."
if it comes out next year, im not buying. a new $400 console with only updated graphics won't cut it anymore.
More ram and cpu power alone will open up new possibilities. Better graphics alone IS enough for me to upgrade. Consoles are looking rough these days... 720p/30...ew..
^^ Yep, better graphics is about all it would take for me to buy the new system as well. And you are totally right. 720p ~30fps and extremely low resolution textures and AA settings are getting harder and harder for me to swallow.
Not enough for me. The reason we don't see more games pushing hardware limits isn't because of the hardware, it's because of the resources available to developers. Why isn't every game a Gears of War 3, or an Uncharted 3? It's because not all developers have the same skills, or the same resources. I'll be more prepared for next gen when more developers prove they can handle this gen's hardware. More power does not automatically equal better graphics or better games overall. And with more powerful hardware, the resources required to push that hardware is just going to increase as well. Developers struggle with resources to create AAA games as it is. The bottleneck isn't hardware, in my opinion. And from the view of the console maker, in the current economic climate who's going to go out and spend billions on developing powerhouse hardware for the next gen when the last gen hasn't even broken even? If we do get new consoles, I suspect we're not going to see as big a hardware leap as we've seen in the past. Hell, the Wii was under-powered when it came out and look how well it did. You really think Microsoft hasn't noticed that? Shane Kim, back when he was in charge, had already said the next console gen would probably look very different, and a new xbox might be a cheaper, digital distribution hub. And more recently we've heard rumors of a MS gaming cloud? Those clamoring for the next console gen, be careful what you wish for.
@ dirthurts : It will need an updated graphics chip too with more vram. If they didnt upgrade the graphics chip the graphics chip would bottleneck the CPU and ram. It would be nice if they did upgrade to an SSD with SATA 3.0 the next time which would increase loading from internal storage a whole lot. The only gripe I have with current consoles is the loading times.
Just be prepared for an ass of applications for next gen. I wouldnt be surprised if Direct TV make a deal with Sony. Since i think Microsoft got a deal with comcast.
$400? I wish! I see next gen consoles in the range of $800 to $1000 tbh. I hope not but ya know...
The only reason the PS3 was so expensive was blu-ray, and now a bluray drive is like 40 bucks... I wouldn't bet on any higher than 399-499 for the next gen(double skews I'm sure). Any higher than that and you would be better off buying a pc. Price point is everything.
you know they always lose big on hardware. they try and sell a shit load of software to eventually break even, might take a few years. anything over 400-500 is suicide dude
@dirthurts it was more than just the BRD, the 60gb launched with alot of features the PS3 doesnt have anymore to cut the cost
Boommuffin. While this is true, cutting usb ports and other chips like the ps2 emulators were negligible in comparison to the massive cost of that bluray drive.
"$400? I wish! I see next gen consoles in the range of $800 to $1000 tbh. I hope not but ya know... " That's how much 360s and PS3s cost in Australia when they were first released. I shudder to think how high the mark-up will be when the next-gen consoles are released. D:
Yeah but you nailed what the internal hardware will look like. It will literally be two taped together and kinect bundled. ONLY way to make another console generation financially viable in this climate, and my guess is whichever company does the stepping stone "add on" that has failed so miserably in generations past will have a BIG win this time round. Because so much can be done with just adding ram.
how great would it be if they would allow us to update the hardware-cpu and graphics for example. you would have to buy it from microsoft of course, and as long as its as simple as sliding in a hdd(like the ps3) i cant see what the problem would be.
@zeddy "great"...proprieta ry HW...really? :S
well, first year most of the games are rather ports, after the 1st year the 2st generation of games start showin the muscles...like Oblivion and GRAW did on the X360 and Uncharted, HS on the PS3
By first he means before the PS4. You will notice he only mentioned the PS4, and 720 in the article. Neither MS or Sony even consider Nintendo a competetior anymore.
... Sony/MS most definitely do consider Nintendo a serious competitor. They would be fools not too.
I don't think Sony would let MS get a year head start again.
I know basics it will be able to run 1080p games at 60 frames but questions is what games will they have to showcase. Halo4 is going to release before the next xbox so they wont have any exclusive titles to showcase their system and I dont think they will get lucky w/ another gears type title.
Gears came out a year after the 360 launch, Perfect Dark Zero was MS's flagship launch title if im not mistaken but is it realy hard to believe MS will pull a twilight princess & release it on both Xboxs?
I think thats a tad naive remember when everyone was like, ALL PS3 EXCLUSIVE WILL RUN FULL 1080P how did that turn out?
Put high end PC specs into the next generation and use Blu-ray/download to play games and I'll be happy. But please for the love of Zeus don't cater the systems to casual gamers too much, just make the system powerful enough to run everygame for the next 10 years without having to cut corners. You could have one console play world of Warcraft, farmville, and all the next gen badass games we have come to expect a lot from the likes of Bethesda, naughty dog, and bioware. I actually shed a tear when I realized that Arkam city just brought the total of games I NEED to play this year to 8...goodbye money....goodbye pussy.
Let Nintendo focus on the casuals with the WiiU and just concentrate on the core. XperiaRay
I want the ps4 and 720 come out in the same year and in the same holiday. No head starts and launch with the same price.
I often wonder how much additional development time will have to be dedicated to a game in order to do all of these wonderful things? Barring any new middleware, don't more assets=more dev time?
Who the F**K penned the name 720? Its so stupid. Wish Microsoft would hurry up and announce the new console, not becuase im overly excited for new tech, but so people have a real name and can stop calling it the 720.
yeah what does 720 mean anyways ? Does it mean everything x 2 ? Either way they need a better name
I hope he is talking about graphics.
The categories are IMO: Casual Core Hardcore
I am in the middle, would be hardcore if I had the time.
Same, also why has someone disagreed with your personal statement lawl
I would actually love for it to be shaped like an X like that, It's an Xbox but the shape really isnt present. I like how on South Park theres a Game Sphere and it has a huge spherical dome on top, its awesome
the next xbox could very well be a hi performance PC with a graphics card that matches hi-end cards.
umm, doesn't that go for every "next generation"? Of course the following generation will do great things compared to this current generation. if they didnt why the hell would we bother going to the next generation? what a dumb article.
"if it didn't come out first?" ... stay shocked because it wont. Sony simply will not allow this to happen. It will most likely be released almost at the same time of one another. I'm not talking about Wii-U of course.
I agree, within a few months of each other for sure. If Microsoft launches the successor to the 360 holiday 2013, the latest Sony launches the PS4 is March/April of 2014. I actually think we're closer to next-gen consoles than that tho.
I just love reading claims from people that have no real idea of the truth. If it does exist, anybody talking about is in violation of disclosure agreements they signed. Is it in the works... I guess it is, but I would not dare to make any claims about what it can or cannot do. But carry on idiots who claim to know everything.... The Internet loves your bold claims....
Ther are so many game still to come in this generation,ther are so many games coming next year and the way the money is on the streets .
I think this generation we reached certain plateau or limit, which is not directly dependant on raw power, and I'm curious about how will we overcome it; detail. Games of the future will have to have much better physics, a lot of I+D and technical consultants would be needed, from botanists to doctors, and of course physicists. On the other hand, I predict horrible crossbreeding with other media, producers and directors sticking their nose and running entire studios, and "high level" art hipsters trying to disrupt genres creating the shiniest turds we've ever seen.
To me a hardcore gamer is someone who eats, sleeps, and shits videogames no matter what system they own. A hardcore gamer goes to midnight launches, has game mag subsciptions, doesnt need gamestop to tell them release dates. A hardcore gamer buys that game when he should be paying the light bill. Casual gamers didnt know (insert random game) c ame out two weeks ago, casual gamers die once then giveup, they usually dont go to midnight launches, wouldnt dream of missing work because of a all night gears or uncharted bender. I am a hardcore gamer...
Sweet a new pc build new wii u and xbox woo hoo.
Next gen consoles... will have a "native" mouse keyboard accessory LOL, bundled with a camera (kinect-eye toy-move).. and and tablet-ish "O.S.".. ...like a PC.. with "exclusives". (half joke half seriousness) Well, pretty sure it'll become more like a real PC..that's the future of consoles anyway. (look at PS1,2 to 3 progress if you can't believe it)
you know what is phenomenal?? achieve UC3 graphics with 7 years old hardware.
I have a strong feeling microsoft will launch in 2012 christmas, sony is releasing their vita and it would be suicide for them to launch vita/ps4 in the same year since it would be hard to fully support both newly released platforms at the same time. So expect 2013 release date for ps4. Nintendo is coming 2012 spring suppposedly but i hear they are running into a number of problems and its possible they may hold out until 2012 november. I think if msoft does not take the chance to release/announce a console for 2012 november, then they will surely be competing against sony in the same year making competion for them harder. Not to mentiopn since halo 4 is also probably coming 2012 november it would be very beneficial to msoft to launch halo 4 on the next gen platform. One of the main reasons msoft/ sony are neck in neck is because msoft released a year early, so there were many sony converts this gen, (people who owned ps2 but moved to 360 rather than ps3) Ps2 raped last gen in sales but for the ps3 to only be tied with msoft in sales is a step backwards for sony and one step forward for msoft.
I still think there's still some creativity to be had, Devs need to find ways to take advantage of the current processing power along with just fresh ideas to to make it shine or refreshing. Other than that I can't wait for next Gen consoles.
we will see and the price is high in the first year.
I lost a bubble on this GD article just wanted to show a link to a movie of advanced liquid physics and my comment got spam branded. f#!*&!
the furthest apart from launch for between each console will be one month tops
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