Battlefield 3 producer Patrick Liu believes his series has the edge on Call of Duty, although he admits he's just pleased the title's being compared to the current FPS genre king.
Why wouldn't it be compared? They are really very similar games. Also, don't see how BF3 offers more than MW3. They both have a huge MP, Co-Op and a Campaign. It comes down to personal preference surely...
COD has 'huge MP'? What is huge about it? COD is just a more refined, arcade based MP shooter whereas BF3 offers a much deeper, more team-based experience. Whilst some of the run and gun gameplay elements are similar, the addition of big maps, vehicles and the way roles of the various classes that compliment each other makes BF3 a different beast. It really does offer a lot more than Call of Duty. Call of Duty just offers gunplay + killstreaks. Objectives revolve around the gunplay.
Agreed, you can't be "offering a lot", if your last game had the exact features.
I think both MP games are so different that its really hard to say one offers more. Out of gameplay features (Youtube, in-Depth Stat tracking, Clans, Groups, Clan/Group challenges, etc), Cod definitely offers more; but when it comes to gameplay vs gameplay, i guess i really can't say. Though, there are more co-op modes in Cod, and it also looks (though, i'm not sure) a lot more in-depth. The BF3 co-op just looks kinda lazily thrown together, where as the MW3 co-op has horde modes and a various other co-op mission that require the two players to assist each other in different ways. For SP, that's still up in the air.
By huge MP he means the variety of options, game modes and playlists and NOT the map size
What sets Call of Duty apart from all other fps, multiplayer offerings is its depth. The anti-Call of Duty elitist can bemoan my comment all they want but it's fact. Call of Duty truly gives players, the tools to play the game the way they want to play. The total number of primary weapons, attachments, secondaries, perks, pro perks, killstreaks; you find the combination that works for your play style. Then factor in the number of gametypes and maps available at launch and you have a huge multiplayer offering with something for everyone. I am an avid Call of Duty player but I only play Domination. I have gamers on my friends list who only play Free-for-all, TDM or Search and Destroy. Call of Duty is diverse, deep and a large multiplayer space, which is why the communities for each game has been so sustainable. You have as many players at peak(10K) still playing Call of Duty 4 and World at War as you have playing Bad Company 2, that should tell you something. I really want someone to highlight for me how Battlefield 3 differs greatly from Bad Company 2 because I'm not seeing the huge difference in how the two play.
i <3 BF, i dont like COD..... but for the record i completely agree,they def play a little diff but both are military FPS in the end with similar options in terms of replay value.
Personally, i don't think either of them offer anything to this extremely overused genre.
It's overused because it's popular. You don't see rockband or forza making 1 billion in sales. Of course it's gonna be the most done genre.
Yea cod MP is not big at all run and gun battlefield 3 u get tanks jets jeeps atvs helicopters and way more then cod
baahahah.....huge mp? as in run and knife? small maps, no challenge, barely any recoil, spamming of special attacks? no strategy? srure....
i agree with the knife thing, coz in COD you can knife and kill in every direction while in BF3 you must be behind the poor dude and he must not be moving.
Which game is of higher quality and offers more content?
What are you on about Stan? There is very little depth in COD and I know, because I played MW2 to death. What you alluded to is simply a variety of game modes and weapons plus a few killstreaks and perks. I don't deny the fact that, when COD4 and even MW2 were out, comparatively, they did offer a lot of depth. But Battlefield 3 really does trounce COD when it comes to freedom. In BF3, you REALLY do play what you want. Its not just gunplay in BF3. If you played Caspian Border you'd realise that there are so many games bundled in one in BF3. You get into a jet and it feels like Ace Combat. You get into a tank and you're playing something else! You, get into choppers or AA batteries- these are all experiences within themselves. OR you could just indulge in firefights. There were moments in Caspian Border where I was involved in firefights in the Hilltop and Forest conquest points- mate- it felt as if the whole fight revolved around these two points. It was amazing. You had the gorgeous river and it was an all out siege- people laying down suppressive fire, picking off snipers- people distributing ammo and medics reviving people.. AND TO TOP IT ALL OFF- there were jets and choppers flying overhead doing their own thing, tanks battling it out and people fighting around us....and there were 5 different points to fight! These were just two we were fighting in! Battlefield is such an apt name for this game. I like COD's pace but its just gunplay and its become more and more gimmicky- kids doing 360 no-scopes etc- that isn't a deep experience. I'm sorry but BF3 is a whole new ball game and it offers 3x more than COD in my opinion.
..exactly. For me, it wasn't infinity ward, treyarch, or Activision that ruined my CoD online experience... it was the CoD community that killed it. Sure, I get the argument that IW, Treyarch, Activision have made minimal gameplay and layout changes to CoD over thet years... yea that's a bit of a bummer too, but I enjoyed the fast arcadey style of gunplay and the depth of the unlocks and perks. But then it seemed that once CoD became a pop-culture phenomenon--somehwere between WaW and MW2--that it's online community became more than just a group of gamers.. they became watered down by cheaters, hackers, boosters, immature little kids, and apparently a lot of neo-nazis. Sorry CoD fans. I'm not complaining that the gaming industry ruined Call of Duty.. YOU ruined it.
I'm not saying this because I'm a BF fan I'm saying this because I've seen and played both COD and BF to know BF is the better experience. It really does come down to preference and if it is preference why do people pick COD over BF? Is it because COD is more easy to play? There is so much action in BF compared to COD it's understandable why people choose COD over BF.
As a longtime battlefield fan I have to say Cod has more features in terms of gamemodes. The game has dozens of Multilpayer game modes, Survivial mode, Spec Ops, Single Player BF only has 3-4 game modes which are Rush Conquest TDM And Squad Rush, Co-Op, And Singleplayer Both good games though, if you pick one up don't forget the other later on :)
3-4 game modes, yet you named six, lol.
he was obviously talking 3-4 multiplayer game modes. derp.
i was speaking of multiplayer modes
I think both games are undeserving of the hype they are getting. I'm getting neither. If I'm gonna spend money it's gonna be on Saints Row, Mario 3-D, or something, I got enough shooters than to be worried about these incomplete and overpriced games. I'm even thinking about going back to Killzone 3, I would have by now if they had freakin add a hardcore mode. I beat Resistance single player and it was awesome, so the multiplayer entices now, Uncharted needs a hardcore mode for me to be interested (no perks mode doesn't cut it for me).
WELL SAID MY FRIEND...WELL SAID...THIS NEEDS TO BE PROMOTED...except for the killzone part. Its all bout that saints row the third, skyrim, and that new zelda for wii.
Well Said. Neither deserve the hype & i'm not buying either. I'm getting Assassin's creed Mario Kart, Mario 3D land and Saints Row 3rd. Those four games will grab my attention more than these half assed military shooters sold on hype alone. The above games alone will be at least 20 hours long in single player. None of this 6 hour crap.
Yeah KZ3 multiplayer is broken. The bad way outweigh the good.
After playing the BF3 beta and reading the constant EA "look at me! look at me!" rhetoric...yeah, I'm still getting MW3.
Bf3 needs a lot of work in my opinion. 1.Engineer used to have the weakest weapon now they can use every weapon availble, plus have a stinger leaving this class with no cons for maps like Caspian. Where atleast 80% of the people are engineers now. 2.Lonewolf scoreboard promotes being a tard and not helping your team take a flag. 3.Jets and heli's suck ass. 4. Vehicle unlocks just a way to keep people playing so its easier to shove dlc down the throat, why you think prestige exists. 5. Its bfbc3 not bf3 gtfo with your health regen and vehicle regen.
Yeah whats the deal with vehicle regen? I didnt play on PC so I never used any vehicles in the beta, but do they really regen themselves? I think thats a terrible idea personally.
The regen isn't that helpful. It only kicks in after like 45-60 seconds and only if your vehicle doesn't have a key part damaged( like engine on fire). So the only time it will regen is if you only take a small bit of damage and escape.
The Kill death ratio should be left out but they are trying to take a chunk from the COD market and thats all COD players care about . They dont give a rats butt about using team work .
Really? You mean to tell me that you have watched every single one of the 20+million people while they play CoD? And study their tactics? Really? Your serious right? Nah you can't be serious. Are you? Please. Just stop.
double post pos.
"so much more than Call of Duty" WHO SAYS? -DICE- -Only marketing and hype- I wait release BF3(3 weeks)......why?Boring overhyped this game.Boring! This game not revolution!! -Only cool- -This october end of hype- Many very cool games coming this year. Uncharted 3. Batman AC. Mario 3D. Assassin's Creed. Skyrim. Zelda. This games not overhyped!!!!!!BF3?........... ..much hype.....and maybe disappointed.......too much hype not good!!
Wow, I had a hard time understanding where the spacing went into hose sentences, pretty obvious your either foreign or a dumbass. Its like reading a badly translated Japanese commercial.
Ok,understand. DICE says BF3 best military FPS ever.........go and buy!Beta is CRAP(console),but only BETA says DICE.-Eat marketing-
Lolz wut? O_o
they keep downplaying the cod series BEGGING for attention from activision lol but DIPE get ignored every time XD try harder DIPE! @ zeksta DIPE = attention whores
DIPE? That's what you can up with? Well I can see intelligence runs in your family, would you care to elaborate why DICE (See, I can say it without sounding like I'm having a muslce spasm) needs attention from Activision?
Loved the beta, even though it pissed me off and was very glitchy. still, it was a beta. Dice did 3 wrong things though in my opinion. 1. They added prone. This promotes camping, and camping belongs where it still is, in Call of duty. 2. They nerfed sniping. Sniping was fun in the beta, I got 1 hits with bolt actions like it should be, but knowing that was a bug and they are lowering the damage just lets us know that lots of people will be using SVDs and Mk 11s. 3. They added a kill death ratio to the in-game scoreboard. This is a team based game with objectives. Don't entice people to deviate from that! I could tell who the cod players were in the beta. Don't get me wrong, 1 game I went 70 and 18 but I don't want my entire team just running around for kills like I saw alot of. I want them to help me with capturing a flag or destroying a bombsite. Dice, I know you're trying to topple or at least steal sales from Call of duty like an independant presidental candidate. But don't stoop so low as to add some call of duty features. Be your own game! For the record I like Call of duty as well, these two games have lots of differences and that's why I buy both. I just don't want the two to steal features to try and compete.
"They added prone. This promotes camping, and camping belongs where it still is, in Call of duty.' > What? are you blind? BF3 is all about camping. Teams on defensive position camp all day. I could tell who the cod players were in the beta. > Really?, can you also tell the gears players in the beta? K/D ratio forces a player to play better, instead of blindly rushing in to secure the objective because nobody would care how many times a player die anyway.
" I could tell who the cod players were in the beta." Can you tell who the Gran Turismo players are too? O_o
Yeah because Gran Turismo is a shooting game.
I don't think there will be any real winner.... As different as these games claim to be- they aren't doing anything we haven't seen before...
Im really getting tired of EA talking so much about MW3, and it may end up just making me avoid to buy the game. And no, aint a fan on MW, and like 2 months ago i was sure about wich game to get (BF3) and which one to skip, but now i may skip both, when a developer spend such a big time trying to compare their game to another something isnt going well.. Also theres no steam version..
DICE be trollin' again!
I totally agree, BF offers another dimension in a firefight and that is UNDERGROUND!
True in my opinion, but he's not the person who should be saying this... It looks cheap and unprofessional.
Yes but the BETA is so horrible it's scared quite a few people away.
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