How Five Fellow Players Are Helping Retain Your Legal Rights

If you agreed to the most recent Terms of Service (aka EULA) rolled out for Sony's PlayStation Network or Electronic Arts' Origin services, you've agreed to lose the right to collectively sue either corporation in order to keep accessing each service.

"By accepting these terms, you and EA expressly waive the right to a trial by jury or to participate in a class action," reads the latest update for Origin. "This agreement is intended to be interpreted broadly."

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Venjense2538d ago

Who cares, if I ever wanted to join a class action against Sony I'd just play Xbox in the meantime.

TyrannoTaurus2537d ago

You understand that by accepting the EULA you waive your right to participate in a class action lawsuit, right? As in, if you don't send the letter, you CAN'T participate in it. It's not saying that if you sue them that they'll block you off of PSN,'s saying that you can't sue them. So, if they get hacked and someone takes your personal information, you are left with no course of action other than to deal with it.

Venjense2537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

Not in Canada, irrespective of whatever waiver a person signs, no one can contract out entrenched rights.

Agreeing to the online terms of service would never prevent anyone (in Canada) from filing a class action against sony...especially an online agreement that arguably the reasonable person doesn't read.

Common law rules in this situation, not Sony.

It's like going to McDonalds and signing a waiver that that if you agree to eat a Big Mac, you won't sue if there's glass in it. Negligence is negligence, duty of care is duty of care and generally can't be contracted out of, certainly, at least, not by some ad hoc online contract.

Some PS3 owners wouldn't even be old enough to have any contract stand, who's to say I signed it and not the other family members who use the PS3, etc.,..... Sony needs a better legal team. They also need to stop being dipshits.

Ducky2537d ago

^ I think it's just a case of investors seeing a nice little law they can use to their advantage and hopping onto it.

At the end of the day, they want to make money, and if a country allows them to strip some rights off the consumer, then why not take advantage of it.

SilentNegotiator2536d ago

Waivers don't always stop people from winning lawsuits. It's not like you're going to lose a case if a Sony executive comes to your house and molests you. "You signed the remove your pants!! MUHAHAHAHA I am eviL Soniez!"

Sony proved they could protect CC info in the hack. So what's going to happen? They're going to charge you to breathe while on the PS Store without warning? I mean, if they try something stupid, remove your card info from PSN.

They're not just going to go and do something stupid. Even if you couldn't sue them, a scandal is a scandal....they try something, they'll lose business.

KingPin2536d ago

People need to understand that a EULA is not there to make them see if the X button on their controller works.

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Lord_Sloth2538d ago (Edited 2538d ago )

I don't want you fighting for my "rights" which were never violated to begin with!!!

humbleopinion2537d ago

Sounds like a case of Battered person syndrome...

The purpose of this whole thing is to get proper legal treatment if at any point in the future your rights ARE VIOLATED. Right now you are just giving up your rights for no good reason.

But suit yourself I guess, the people who press class action lawsuits don't need everyone to sign anyway. As a matter of fact it might even play to their hands: the company getting sued will be more likely to compensate them if they know that many people like yourself are voluntarily giving up their right, and therefore there are less people to compensate...

Lord_Sloth2536d ago

Blah blah blah blah whatever.

Shy of murdering me, I don't see how Sony can violate what little rights the government allows me to hold onto anyway.

Can't FORCE me to pay for anything I don't want to they can't violate my rights. I'm here to play games and Sony gives me games. Get off your high horse.

SilentNegotiator2536d ago

Because if you're not a playstation-hater offended by a simple waiver, you have BPS....RIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

The worst case scenario is that someone gets your CC info.....and that DIDN'T happen in the big hack, because Sony encrypted it. I'll continue to use PSN cards (to be safe) and I'm not upset about "losing" phonebook info and email that some companies do nothing but easily collect anyway.

humbleopinion2536d ago

You guys truely don't understand what user rights are, do you? This has nothing to do with the specifics of this accident or that issue but with the general notion that you are giving up your legal right no matter what happens in the future.

MrBeatdown2537d ago (Edited 2537d ago )

You know, if I was that concerned with my future ability to go to legal war against a video game company, I'd take the time and spend the couple dollars to do it myself.

littletad2537d ago

This is a far bigger deal than Sony fans don't seem to understand. Oh well.

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