GamerEuphoria says "Onlive Is Smashing Bandwidth Caps with 20GB in 6hrs..."
Both of the Isp i have ever has did not have caps. -Timewarners road runner and Verizion Fiber Optics. Caps are a way for ISP to take more of your cash, sounds lame. 20gig in 6 hours can be a problem.
Yeah, they don't have caps now, but with more and more streaming services (games, music, movies), they're all bound to have them in the near future. It sucks, alot! That's why I will still buy most of my games on physical copies. Bluray discs all the way for me, until these companies stop putting bandwidth caps and until downloaded content can be re-sold and lent to friends. You don't really "own" downloaded or streamed content. You're just given the opportunity to "use" it. That's why I hope the next gen consoles still have some sort of physical medium for their games. I hope they offer the games digitally and physically day-and-date. That way you can choose which way you want to buy your games. Of course, by then the PS4 will probably have 100GB bluray discs for its games and it would be hard to download something that large. haha
Actually the network upgrade costs are pretty trivial for cable operators at least. They are nowhere NEAR peak bandwidth crippling their service. Caps are a cheesy money grab. They promised you all you can eat internet at a certain speed for around $40 a month to get you in the door, and once you are in and thinking of them as a utility/monopoly (for your area) they want to shake you down for more.
Bear in mind, caps in the UK are common. I'm unsure about the rest of Europe, but at a guess I'd say around 85% of homes have a capped internet. It seems that American ISP's are starting to follow suit now as well. Oh, and even "unlimited" broadband accounts have a "fair usuage" cap. It's high, but 20GB in 6 hours, I'm guessing you'll meet it.
No caps from any ISP in Scandinavia as far as I know. It's not even a topic here in Norway.
No caps in france , at least no longer ... but plenty throttle the bandwith in secrets
I agree. Especially in the UK internet providers are very strict. I'm on BT and even their "Unlimited" package isn't truly unlimited. I went over last month and they claim it's "unfair usage" and hinders other peoples internet quality. So as a result they capped my speeds between 5pm-midnight.
BT Users are going unpunished for OnLive usage until January. Bandwidth allowance goes completely unaffected by OnLive.
So what happens in January.. you can no longer realistically use OnLive?
@FlashXIII I've used OnLive extensively with Virgin and not had any issues. I don't see why that would be any different for BT users, especially those with higher end packages (those that'll get the most out of the service any way).
This is why streaming and even digital downloads will NEVER be mainstream. It's just not feasible, I'm moving ISPs (regrettably as the service was great and their customer service was second to none) due to their change to a cap and increase in cost.
Never say never.
yes I do believe that cloud is the future of consoles but thats maybe in 25 years LOL
Digital Downloads are already mainstream (Steam, Playstation Store and Xboxe Live Marketplace say hello), but if streaming Onlive can eat up 20GB in 6hours, then that is definitely a problem. At least with digital downloads, once you've downloaded the game, you're not using anymore bandwidth. Just make sure you have a large Hard Drive so you wont have to delete old games to make space for new ones, and that way you're not having to re-download old games to play them again. 1 Terabyte HDDs are only $100.00 these days anyway.
They're mainstream in the sense that people use the service in quite substantial numbers, however, when you have games like Rage hitting a massive chunk off monthly download limits, you do have a problem. They're definitely not competition for retail as it stands.
I agree to a point, when it comes to games like ME2 on PSN which takes up 24GB of space, but look at Crysis on PSN, its only 4.1GBs. I love digital downloads because then it keeps my home free of having games all over the place. Its only when theres a massive Steam sale where I'll get up around 100GBs - 125GBs, and whatever Youtube streaming and internet surfing takes up. These people that claim they use 175GBs per month, I have no clue as to what they could be doing to reach that much bandwidth, unless they're constantly buying or pirating things online everyday. At the end of the day though, I still believe theres a place for Blu-Ray, which is the only way I buy movies and the odd game, but I do want to upgrade my PS3 to a 1 Terabyte HDD so that I can buy most of my games through the PSN. Currently I've only got a 500GB HDD on my PC, and its been pretty tight for a while now. I always have to delete games to make space for new ones.
I have to deal with a 25GB per month cap where I live...
Wow, that sucks. I go through 25 gigs in a couple days. My cap is 250 gigs, but i average around 175 gigs a month.
It only sucks if you buy into this failed/failing/going to fail device.
not only problem is the caps, but also the throttling. I'm from Canada eh, and we're getting a real taste of that now...at least I am, with Rogers.
I honestly believe the FCC or someone will step in at some point to get rid of these caps. IMO it is bad for the entire industry and will prevent growth.
I don't think anyone will step in. If the ISP's claim fair usuage, they are entitled too if they believe it effects other users internet.
I have At&t, it's not only slow and caps too.. bumber
Doesn't bother me at all, because I still and probably will always buy physical products... to hell with giving corporations control over what I play.
Your and idiot. Corporations already have control over what your play. If Sony came to your door right now and demanded you hand over your copy of God of War and in return they would give you a download voucher for God of War, by law you can't say no. Why, CAUSE YOU DON'T OWN YOUR GAME DISC. The publisher does. When you buy your game all you have bought is the right to play it as is on a certain piece of hardware. But the disc itself is not yours.
*Facepalm* WOW, really... and your calling me the idiot, oh the irony of this. NO, let me explain to you just how wrong you are... the Publishers grants me a license to use the software, that is what they own (the software), and this license says what the software can be used for and generally grants me the right to use the software for as long as I want considering I'm not in breach of the license. They do not however own the disk, they own the software that is located on the disk. Lets get the straight right now. Sony or any publisher for that matter can NOT remove anything from my home without my permission and I have no obligation to give them the disk at all. They can also not take away the ability to play my games, unless I somehow breach the license agreement I accept by playing the game nor would they really have a reason too unless I breach the license. So who is the idiot now? Next time if your going to post a dumb comment, how about you have some actual facts to back it up.
Though the whole point for one live was bc it was too be streaming just a little of the games actually data feed - here u can't even play a whole 8g game... Digital display over the wire is not fees able yet.
people seem to forget why we have caps in the first place. Pirates. Caps are an ISP's way of dealing with the likes of RIAA and savy consumers who would ISP's for breach of trust. Caps only came into being after ISP's were pressured by RIAA and other to give the names of subscribers that had high download numbers and frequented certain sites. You get rid of the pirates or atleast limit them and caps would go away. Its that simple.
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