Taking inspiration from BBC's Top Gear, Forza 4 barrels through the barrier between racing sims and fun like a monster truck hitting an RV.
I almost want to buy this game, but I know I'll just get bored with it like I do with every racing sim.
That's the difference between Forza and GT to me. Forza is a Sim-Arcade racer, where GT5 is full on Sim. So I have more fun playing Forza, but if I want a Sim and a Challenge I play GT5.
Play Shift 2 instead, that game is some seriously insane fun! I too dont like sim racers as I find them boring, but Shift 2 managed to make it a fun, visceral horrifying and exciting experience.
I love me some Top Gear...that might just be enough to get me to check this out.
The question remains... can you drive the three-story apartment car from the camping episode?
If only. Iiiiif only.
I appreciate what the GTs and Forzas of the world do, but give me Burnout any day of the week. :)
Amen. Thou, to be fair, I don't consider myself a fan of the racing genre. Considering myself so would be insulting to the real fans out there. I rarely play racing games. But, the few racing games I've grown to love are: NFS:Most Wanted, Burnout Paradise <3 <3 <3 <3 <3, Motor storm and a few others.
I agree with you to some extent.... I understand you like it fun and arcadey. It isn't always great to play something realistic. As far as that goes.... GT5 is the most realistic, making it for most people... the least fun... because most people aren't part of the GT world. I prefer GT5 because I just like it real. you know those people that play games and move the controller around when they play? Well, my first time playing GT5, I felt my equalibrium take a hit because I've raced around a few tracks myself. It just felt real, and that's what I like. And before you guys start going nuts about me saying GT5 is the most realistic, and not Forza. Understand that Forza is a great game, and it is a sim to some extent. But GT5 doesn't modify anything and includes almost all weather types. Forza is good in it's own style.
A racing sim is fun. They are made for car enthusiasts, not just for people who like to rice their car out, and make it look fast. But for people who love driving, and for those people, racing sims are amazing. Just because you like video games, doesnt mean you are going to like every genre. It's like music.
"Gran Turismo 5 simply isn't fun. It is too bogged down by precision and realism for the average gamer to embrace it -- and that's totally OK." So basically it's the better Simulator but if you don't want a proper SIM then pick Forza.
it all depends on what difficulty settings you're playing on they are oth equally difficult when you max out the difficulty
Exactly. Forza 4 is a sim, but only to the degree you want it to be. The player has more control over that aspect.
Turn 10 did say that they wanted Forza to be sim/fun so they aim to be between Need for Speed and GT GT just aims to be a sim. They dont play the same and appeal to different audiences so I would never compare them. Edit: From the article.."Gran Turismo 5 simply isn't fun. It is too bogged down by precision and realism for the average gamer to embrace it -- and that's totally OK. A lot of gearheads are into being as detailed as possible"....... Thats the point of GT precision and realism, why would you not want that in a sim? GT has never wanted to be anything else, and surely you want to buy a sim that is what you are expecting, precision and realism.
Its saying GT is wrong because its a just a highly detailed sim and I'm confused, why is that wrong? That is why people want to buy GT. Why say one is better then the other when they are not trying to be the same thing?
I came in looking for the first person who would throw GT5 in the mix. The true legend of driving simulator games. As none of these other games were even around at all people are mentioning in here when GT1 came out. You seen the new GT5 huge update coming?
This article is BS. They call Forza 4 a racing sim and that it is fun, then say "Gran Turismo 5 simply isn't fun. It is too bogged down by precision and realism for the average gamer to embrace it -- and that's totally OK." WTF? isn't a sim supposed to be precise and real, otherwise it isn't a sim and is just another arcade racer. Gt is Gt because that is what the fans buy Gt for. Forza 4 is Forza 4 because that is what Forza fans buy it for. Only an person who isn't a racing fan and plays these games with a gamepad can say GT is not fun. Try playing with a G25 going at 180 mph around bend with 6 cars around you knowing one wrong move and you are toast. The tension is palpable. That to any racing fan has got to be fun.
So true but this is a pointless argument to bring up, as this is N4G where the games are irrelevant. This has to be the worst place to talk about games, most of the time your talking to a child who instantly disagrees with what your saying if you happen to have a different system to what Santa got them. The only thing that matters on N4G is the system.
Forza seems like a better game but GT5 feels like a better sim.
@Ddouble - Yeah what they said is stupid! If the average gamer didn't embrace Gran Turismo then why the heck do they always sell 10 million copies? You know why GT sells so much? Because people like the precision and realism, that's what gives simulators their greatness/fun factor. People actually LIKE games that are realistic. Not to mention the amount of cars which appeal to car buffs.
GT5 is the only real racing sim franchise. It makes Forza looks like a simplistic arcade racer (for the most part, it is just an arcade racing game).
Statements like these make me sure you never played forza. There are assisst to be turned off!!! And why fanboys are complaining about the lack of weather effects while ignoring most GT flaws??? 800 poor quality cars??? TEH WEATHER!!! no damage ate the early levels?? TEH WEATHER!! No deep tuning and cars customisation?? TEHH WEATHEEERR!!!!
You are trolling. If you want to smash your car, do it in real life, then talk about how you want damage first race, first lap. Kaz even said, he choose to put the damage progression in career mode, so it teaches you to drive, so you don't smash up your car. What's the point of a driving sim if all you want to do is crash?
Uh grzajabarkus is pretty much correct. Also the 800 cars aren't as good as premiums but most of the time I can't tell which are and aren't by the replays. You have to zoom in to really tell.
You seen the huge update coming to GT5? Looks to me like you have not. Much less played GT5 yourself. Go Troll somewhere else. Games like Forza were created by dev's you not only saw GT games. But played them back in the mid 1990's. Respect the legend no matter what console you own.
Fact... these games are unenjoyable without steering wheel and pedals.
I game on ds3, I want a wheel, but have no room. I love these types of games, and are very enjoyable on a pad.
Forza 4 is a Racing SIM? i'm confused
actually you really look confused...or maybe your just a troll...not sure yet!
You are just in denial, like a lot of others here.
Its embarrassing looking at comments on n4g about calling GT a sim when they've probably never even touched a vehicle let alone took a performance worthy car around a track. I worked as a race warden at Buxton raceway which is a particularly easy track to work with yet it takes many, many, many months for participants even master each turn and corner... So why can average joe tackle a tight cornered track like Monza and come first after 2 attempts in Forza or GT? BECAUSE ITS A GAME.
Why is this article tagged for PS3??
Bah. Any racing game that doesn't involved rockets and flamethrowers is weak. Actually, I feel the same way about driving on the freeway in real life, too.
Racing sims should be RACING SIMS. Forza 4 is an arcade/sim racer. Sorry folks.
I am actualy impressed Turn 10 have came out an said they have tried to make it a fun sim. We all know GT5 is not a game a casual player can pick up because of how serious it is ment to be. Both games are in no way close to a sim without a proper force feedback steering wheel, still great with a DS3 or 360 controller but adding a wheel really is what the games are intended for. So in the end you would think GT5 - Racing Sim Forza - Semi Racing Sim
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