360 Magazine: The advent of OnLive and Cloud based services could be the beginning of the end for discs.
Yes. This will happen.
Not for a long time. And this Farrell bloke knows as much about the next Xbox as we do, but then again I cannot help but think the author of the article is trying to put those words in his mouth because there is not one single quote in the whole thing. Either there are no quotes or the author still hasn't learnt to use the "" symbols.
RAZOR BLADE BUSINESS MODEL. Nuff said. . . . . . . . But just in case that wasn't enough for you, then just consider that ONLIVE's console version, if you live in the US, you've never seen it in a single retail chain store in your entire life. You never will. Why? Because it's locked out.
Business suicide. Although it might work in developed countries where most people have reasonable if not still brilliant net access, the sales of such a machine in still fairly strong territories with poor net access- the africas etc will be......zero. By going cloud only you automatically take away a vast amount of your audience including casuals that maybe never even hook their machine up to the net.
although un researched i assume countries like Africa dont do m=uch for the sales of video games anyhow
Just have the next halo launch only with cloud service and you will survive.
Africa is a continent lol. South Africa for example has a fairly decent userbase, which picks up quickly as the hardware prices drop toward the end of a generation. However it has to be bad for a reputation if a company the size of Microsoft or Sony decides to eliminate a lot of people from their potential sales market. That would end up in a virtual automatic sale for the competitor who still uses disc distribution/retail. Speaking of retail, it would also mean that would die a death and there would be significant backlash.
I support this move, if their intentions are to fail and fail hard!
sony did it with the psp go, and it failed. Next-Box = psp go? there will be physical media in the next generation of consoles especially when games are even getting bigger.
Just hold the console, it's not that bad! Before my music CD's disappeared I would have said this was impossible, but now i think it really is the future for most media content.
The only problem with this strategy is that it requires a decent internet connection. No internet, no games. That's quite the trade-off and a big loss of potential income and install base seeing as far from everyone who owns a 360 is actively online.
Doubtful, what about all the gamers who want to play their 360 games?
Unless you live in Korea or Japan, this is not sustainable. Maybe the generation after the next, but not the 8th generation of consoles.
hahahahah oh that was funny......... Physical media is how over 75 percent of new games are purchased. That goes away the industry is dead You think onlive is successful? It hasnt sold well enough anywhere to even make profit
I want to own games and play offline. What if they was a outage i cant play. I have yet to see anyone run out and buy onlive yet over the consoles
I can't believe I'm agreeing with you, but I do 100%. I don't want my ability to play to be dependent on my internet connection. That would suck.
Sucks for people like me that live in rural places and cab only get mobile broadband bring on NBN already gillard
You haven't seen it because Onlive is free. So you'll be waiting a long time to see anyone run out and buy it. I have an onlive account and it was pretty cool. My only drawback, and its a major one, is that I'm a pc gamer and the game settings are fixed. NO NO NO NO NO!!! Cant have that. I like to change my graphical settings and thus the service lost its luster. Now where onlive shines is that you will never have to buy a console again. You just buy games. You dont need a super duper ever expanding pc. Just an internet connection on your current pc. You basicly have a free console. Plug in your 360 controller and there you have it. Why would I want to play on a small screen instead of my big screen? setup your spare pc on a television and voila!! instant new console on your television with a great interface. Even has friends list etc. If they can get the leg up on prices for the games, somewhat like steam does with pre-orders, and the word gets out then parents might have a look at it instead of worrying about buying consoles every few years.
But you will never get those exclusives like Uncharted, or Forza, or Halo, or LBP.
I have a problem with the 150-200ms of lag I'll get using OnLive. That will never be acceptable for me and would drive me nuts.
you could just imagine a Sony like outage, but not just online being down, you wont be able to play games offline either
Next consoles will have disc media Along with DLC route but larger games, its all dependant on connection I will never upgrade my net speed just to download games quicker there's no point
Why is this tagged Xbox instead of psn pc ps3 Xbox 720 ps4 -I mean if ur going to tag something it's not then do it right
I apologies if anyone is insulted by this, but honestly, if you really think it's going to be purely DLC next generation you're an idiot. Some people just can't grasp the simple fact that the worlds internet infustructure is in no way, shape or form ready for this, not by a long shot. I don't know why people are talking about this because it's just not going to happen for a very long time. Unless of course you think Sony or Microsoft are planning to completely cut off 75% of their customer base from this gen.
Do these people ever try to support there claims? Looking at sale numbers would tell anyone that physical media brings in the majority of the money on consoles, it would be beyond dumb to drop that when you have no idea if digital could keep those same numbers. The PC market is vastly different than the console market, PC almost died... It was easy for a new format to take over without any issues, because not many at the time bought PC games. It easy to say digital is effecting physical media, yet nobody has the evidence to support it outside of some media such as books or music which could be contributed to how small they are to download. But when we look at say movies, Blu-ray is picking up in sales. Physical media still sells alot more than digital. Truthfully I think they will co-exsist rather nicely, you will always have those who want physical prducts and those who prefer some things digital and some things physical. Digital and cloud based media gives more control to big corporations, and as a consumer that does not benefit us.
People need to understand that the Net access around the world ISNT the same all around...The infrastructure needed to make a console a download only item isnt ready...like some people said, in most countries it would be a business suicide...maybe in 10 years time it will have an actual chance of being, but not right now.
then it will fail pspgo says hi
Have tried onlive was impressed with the controls being lag free, but my connection makes the games look like poor sd quality youtube videos I wont be buying into it unless broadband speeds dramatically increase in my area my speed is 3.3mb down 900kbs up
What about people who internet connections go funny from time to time. We havent reached that level with broadband where every single person has the best, steady internet connection. Oh and what about storage space, I would hate to keep worrying about space on my hard drive. I hope this never happens
I am to old school to accept the fact if I pay for something I don't get a physical copy that I feel is mine. If next gen turns out as download only, I will stick with my 360 and PS3 until I run out of games to play, which will happen about the day I retire.
and if they do expect to pay $500 for the smallest old tech hard drive M$ can throw out there.
I really hope this doesn't happen my broadband isn't that fast to download so much in a short time period.
This will never work. There still something to be said for FREE on-shelf advertising. You'll lose the casual market, and Holiday shoppers won't be out in droves waiting to buy your games. Those that live out in Rural areas or less populated areas are screwed. No more midnight launches. No more trading or selling (already being assaulted by online pass) We'd all be at the mercy of greedy publishers that think their game should sell for full price for years. DRM hell. Collectors are screwed. MS already cheats us with overpriced proprietary hard drives. I could go on and on...
Microsoft's just going to buy OnLive for the next gen. I could see them keeping the name or changing it to "LiveOn". ;)
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