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Destructoid - Dark Souls Review

Destructoid - It's easy to make justifications for a game effectively designed around the idea of making the player's life Hell when it succeeds. Dark Souls does so where it needs to in order to appeal to an audience hungry for a follow up to Demon's Souls. It's engrossing, challenging and inspiring in its world but also a sticky mess of unexplained elements and niggling problems.

It's still a good game, one that improves upon its impressive predecessor in many ways and fails to improve in some important ones. It calls for me to return, to finish what I have started. And I will, because it deserves to be played and demands to be conquered.

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Lionhead2545d ago

Not surprising, this is only the 2nd score below 8 I've seen

Amazing game, well worth the investment!

DragonKnight2545d ago

There always has to be that one reviewer purposely trying to go against the grain so that they get noticed and their site gets hits. With all the 9's and some 10's this game has been getting, a 7/10 (meaning above average) has to be nothing more than an attempt to rile people up. Read the review and you'll see for yourself.

There's no way that Dark Souls is only "above average" and I'm not surprised that Destructoid is trying to place themselves at the center of controversy.

solidjun52545d ago (Edited 2545d ago )

"I'm not surprised that Destructoid is trying to place themselves at the center of controversy."

Whatever they say, I brush it off my shoulder. I won't let them (particularly Jim get to me).

Hey did you get it yet? I want it but the time it takes to enjoy this game (especially since i work and go to school) is daunting. F it...i'll probably get it.

EDIT: Yea, my brother swears by amazon. I'm gonna start pre-ordering my games from there from now on.

DragonKnight2545d ago

No, I can't get it until probably Friday since that's when I get paid. I was stupid and didn't pre-order from Amazon because I needed other stuff. Ah well.

vickers5002545d ago

"With all the 9's and some 10's this game has been getting, a 7/10 (meaning above average) has to be nothing more than an attempt to rile people up."

So because Destructoid didn't give Dark Souls a 9 or a 10, then that means they're just trying to piss people off and get hits? They're not allowed to feel a certain way about a game unless you agree with it?

I mean it's not like this was a terrible review or anything, it's quite detailed and explanatory and compliments the game quite a lot throughout the review.

"There's no way that Dark Souls is only "above average"

Well maybe they disagree with that statement. Above average means it's good. Just because they say it's not an 'amazing' game doesn't mean they're trying to get hits.

floetry1012545d ago (Edited 2545d ago )

Rofl, if they aren't blaming Jim Sterling, they're blaming Destructoid as a whole. Some kids need to look up the definition of opinion, especially considering this critic has plugged 90 hours, and the posters here have played next to nothing. If you enjoy the game and are going to pick it up anyway, then who cares? It's as if they are being physically assaulted every time the metacritic fluctuates. Dark Souls has been getting good reviews, it will also get a few okay reviews, because by and large, it's still a good score. Do they honestly think Dark Souls is going to be a game for everybody?

floetry1012545d ago (Edited 2545d ago )

What a surprise, they'll bring out the disagrees like candy, but they can't actually reply with a legitimate argument supporting themselves.

MeatAbstract2545d ago

Sorry floetry101, I did disagree.

I agreed with most of what you said. Yeah the reviewer has played much more than us and yes 7 is a fine, respectable score for a game.

I just disageed because I think Jim Sterling is a pretentious prick.

gumchewinasskikr2545d ago

floetry101

Some kid (you) need to learn to read. The title says Destructoid-Dark Souls Review NOT Destructoid-Dark Souls Opinion.

I don't get why people give reviewers a pass all time and let them hide behind the excuse theat reviews are opinions. They are NOT opinions. THese people get paid to play games and give their fair assessment of the experience.

DragonKnight2545d ago

"So because Destructoid didn't give Dark Souls a 9 or a 10, then that means they're just trying to piss people off and get hits? They're not allowed to feel a certain way about a game unless you agree with it?"

See, this is where contradictory/condescending people like you get annoying.

You're sitting there trying to come to the defense of an opinion by criticizing an opinion. You're doing exactly what you're arguing with me about. I can bet you just sat there, read my post and thought "oh look, here's another guy who thinks his favorite game should be a perfect 10, how about I inject my smartass remark about him criticizing some reviewers opinion by criticizing HIS opinion about the review." Really? That's what you're going to make your post about?

If you bothered to look around the net for the reviews on this game, maybe you'll stumble across the fact that he's pretty much the ONLY reviewer who has the specific problems with the game that he mentions. Maybe you'll noticed that he graded down the game more in areas MOST other reviewers didn't. The ONE thing I can say he did right was not jump on the "it's too hard" bandwagon and mark it down for that, though I wouldn't have been surprised in the least. As a user below me said, it sounds like he's grading the technical aspects and not the game. That's why I said they're just trying to piss people off. It's not like I read the damn title, saw the score, and just decided to post. I actually read the review.

"Above average means it's good. Just because they say it's not an 'amazing' game doesn't mean they're trying to get hits."

This is Destructoid. When in the history of their idiotic, inflammatory tripe have they NOT tried to get hits? You may as well say the game is on par with Call of Duty by giving it a 7.

@floetry101: First of all, don't assume you know anyone here. For all you know, there are people here who imported the Japanese version and have played more than 90 hours of this game. Second, the review didn't mark it down for not being a "game for everyone" the most glaring parts you could see that were marked down were all technical issues that the review had to gripe about. In fact, he barely talks about the audience at all.

Plus, read what their definition of a 7 is.

"7s are solid games that definitely have an audience. Might lack replay value, could be too short or there are some hard-to-ignore faults, but the experience is fun."

Might lack replay value? Obviously this guy hasn't played Demon's Souls or even understands what both games are about. Too short yet he played the game for 90 hours. Hard to ignore faults that, according to his review, include being able to shoot through a fence in one area, but not in another area. Even if this is their generic definition of what a 7 is, it's not at all descriptive of Dark Souls.

vickers5002545d ago

@gumchewinasskikr

A review is an opinion.

"THese people get paid to play games and give their fair assessment of the experience."

They do give their fair assessment of the experience, AS THEY SEE IT. To some people, certain things are more important to others. It's not a reviewers job to make sure their priorities align with your own. That's why there are multiple reviews out there. Reviews are just experiences than one individual had. Some individuals have good experiences, some have bad experiences. Neither one is 'right'.

It's completely acceptable to review games based on how you felt about them, as reviews are not FACT.

So someone shares a different opinion than you, so what? If you don't like Destructoid, don't visit Destructioid articles anymore.

floetry1012545d ago (Edited 2545d ago )

@MeatAbstract. Fair enough, I can understand if you don't like Jim Sterling. I'm also of the opinion that he's an ass, but I can't discount the fact that he has an important voice for gaming.

Wow, did anyone read gumchewinasskikr's reply?

"I don't get why people give reviewers a pass all time and let them hide behind the excuse theat reviews are opinions. They are NOT opinions. THese people get paid to play games and give their fair assessment of the experience."

Hahaha, I don't even need to say anything to such a contradictory statement. Someone get this guy a dictionary or an English teacher to help him understand, please.

@DragonKnight. Read the "7" assessment again. MIGHT lack replay value. COULD be too short, OR some hard to ignore faults.

It's a selection criteria. It doesn't have to pertain to all of them.

vickers5002545d ago

"Really? That's what you're going to make your post about?"

Are you seriously trying to defend yourself with such a terrible argument? I criticized your opinion because it's outright ignorant, stupid, and childish. "Oh noez, he didn't score my favorite game the way I wanted him to, that means he's just trying to make people mad."

Yeah, sorry, but that's just completely ridiculous.

"maybe you'll stumble across the fact that he's pretty much the ONLY reviewer who has the specific problems with the game that he mentions"

So? HE ISN'T THE OTHER REVIEWERS. He has a different opinion than they do, and he is neither wrong, nor right for it. Like I said, some people have bigger issues with certain problems moreso than others. For instance, some reviewers complain about a game not having multiplayer or single player, and there are people that put one or the other as a higher priority. The reviewer obviously has different priorities than you do, and one of his priorities happens to be that he prefers his games to be lacking of technical problems.

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karl2545d ago

i feel he is reviewing the technical aspects of the game and not the game as a gamer

if it feels like a ten that shouls be the score.... to start and rest points for technical problems just isnt the kind of review i would take into account when buying a game...

Lionhead2545d ago

Yeah, kinda like what some reviewers did with Dead Island =\

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