CNN today posted an article entitled "Why men are in trouble". In typical mainstream media fashion, videogames are the source of all our problems. Click past the jump for some quotes I would like to share with you.
Lol, coming from CNN, one of the most corrupt news channels in the WORLD The day i pay any attention to those mofos will be the day i turn gay, i hav LOADS of "ambition" theres no way im wastin it on this world, ill wait for the next, see what i do then
Isn't Fox the most corrupt news channel?
Let's agree that they are both complete crap.
Nahhh ... Im pretty sure, FOX takes the award in that category or sweeps in all related catagories.
More like give us guys a reason to get married. Seems like everything benefits the other half, and it's so easy to get a divorce. You want us to do stuff? Change the damn laws!
CNN = Crappy News Network. Seriously, in my college most of the girls are drama students, hairdressers/beauty therapists or some social science. Sure, they all leave with college degrees, but they're thick as shit. I'm sitting in my class plugging numbers into my calculator, working towards something useful, while they're all out getting degrees for jobs that don't even exist. I don't know about the US, but in the UK things are very different from what they're describing. The college course I'm in is statistically the hardest course to pass out of all the college courses offered in the UK. There are 17 men in it. Guess how many females? 1. Just 1. Now, lets move on to "industriousness, marriage and religion" this quote is interesting. The first one is the only relevant one. You need to be clever, you need to be determined to succeed. You don't need to be married. Relationships drag you down. It no longer becomes just about what you want and all your decisions go through someone else. And religion? Seriously? I'm not even gonna bother explaining why that's stupid. Sorry about the rant.
Nah, msnbc is the most corrupt by far. All they do is hate. Where Fox is mostly conservative, msnbc is extremely liberal and biased. While Fox usually doesn't let liberals talk, msnbc pretty much never lets conservatives talk. From what I've seen anyway.
No fox news tells it like it is. They tell any and all news. Pictures of obama with the head of the black panther party are just now started popping up. Did cnn, cspan, msnbc point that out? Now if it was a white candidate, president, politician, etc with the head of the kkk, the liberal stations wouldn't shut up about it yet they hid the president with the black supremist. No politician should associate with any radical hate group and no "news station" should hide or condone hate. Do what you are supposed to do report all news with an UNBIASED opinion. Fox news has supporters of both sides like hannity and colmes. juan williams defended and supported obama, watch the oreilly factor. As far as my video games go, i support my wife and my 4 kids, paid off my house at 28 years old, taught my self spanish, and can curl 265 lbs 8 times, so i'm gonna play my video games....Get your facts straight.
redhulk must of forget when fox news pulled some hack "psychologists" that trashed Mass effect, because she was a "expert" on the game. fox news is full of shit and unbalanced. msnbc,cnn, and fox will say "videogames are a waste of time" "go blow your money on the Stock market instead"
The corporate new networks are corrupt in general. However, I do like Freedom Watch and Lou Dobbs on FOX Business, Dylan Ratigan and Lawrence O'donnell on MSNBC, Cenk Uygur and Keith Olbermann on CURRENT. These guys speak truth to power which I love, but the only problem is they all still get stuck in the "Left/ Right Paradigm".
That's just like America, they call it free, but the second you do anything besides slave away for their tax revenue, there's something wrong with you! You pay out your a$$ for school, to get a job that's so demanding you never see your home and die from stress related disease!! Some of us don't want to work our lives away! @Redhulk: Black Supremists? It was an equality movement!
CNN is way more screwed up thatn Fox, but Fox takes more heat cause they produce the dumb articles more often. Either which way, the media is so out there left or right, on their gameing opinions it's almost laughable if not nauseuatying to see and read. They can blam games for the actions of the children, but who will they blame for their own poor choices? Ham Radio?
No real gamer would ever question that, yes, FOX is the worst news outlet.
That's not how you spell NBC news.
CNN: CRYING NEWS NETWORK :'(
yo! I'ma bust a cap in these cnn bitches when I see them online in COD! :P
C-SPAN. Get. On. My. Level.
This is a load of crap. When is all of these media outlets, politicians, misguided finger pointing parents and non gaming zealots going to stop passing blame on others poor choices in life? Why not blame our education system, lack of scholarships, music education, and most of all lack of funding for physical education and sports in most schools as the blame. I don't know about other states, counties, cites and townships, but in my state there is next to no funding for anything that has to do with what is listed above. Not only did I have to pay out of pocket for my son to play sports but my wife and I had to provide transportation for him to get home from all after school activities. When he was having trouble in trig the teacher would not even allow him to stay after school to get some help. We had to hire a tutor on our own and have her meet him at my house on the weekends. Back when I went to school they provided for all things listed above. Oh and BTW my son grew up with a gaming controller as a teething ring. He is now 18, going to college, still plays sport, takes jiujitsu and plays video games when his schedule allows. These idiots need to stop pointing the finger at one entity and put it where it belongs, them.
Interesting assessment. Oh wait, I'm 32, married and my wife and I just had our first daughter. Oh yeah, I play games 4 hours a day. I guess I'm contrary to CNN's analysis.
So what time do you have for your family? An 8-hour job + 4-hour gaming + hours for other duties/meals/commuting.... Most people only have 16-hours out of the day for everything (except weekends). I'm not saying you are lying, but would like to know how you manage that. I can't do that, and I don't even have a kid yet.
Yeah, I also wonder how that works. I'm 37, I have 8 hours a day working and then the rest of my time is spent on household chores, errands and spending time with my wife and son. Gaming, tv, movies. These are are luxuries. When my 1 1/2 year old son finally goes to sleep, I have only a couple of hours to unwind from the day and spend with my wife before I do it all over again. If I'm lucky and not too exhausted, I might find an hour or so in the evening to read a good book or fire up a game. On the weekends, it's all about family and friends with, again, maybe an hour or too at night - if I'm lucky. I used to spend 4 hours a day gaming, back in my 20's when I wasn't working full time and didn't have any responsibilities other than paying my own bills. Then I got a real job. If you're working and spending 4 hours a day, everyday gaming, you're either not working a full time job, you don't sleep or you're neglecting your family. If you're single, I can see 4 hours a day, but even then you should probably get out and socialize a bit more unless you want to run the risk of become a friendless hermit (and people you never met on your friend's list don't count). CNN has a point. Enough with the knee jerk reactions. Cnn might as well said TV or Movies instead of videogames. The point was at some point we need to take responsibility for our lives and not be slackers. That doesn't mean you can't game anymore.
FOX news and CNN are both total shit, but, a poll was done about what is the most bias news station in America, and CBS ranked #1, FOX and CNN followed. So why are we hating on FOX if there is an even MORE bias news station on TV? It's because of our political bias.
@topdudeman What's you major? Some kind of engineering? If so, you're gonna feel really crappy when you start looking for a job. I was making fun of my sister for 4 years non-stop because she was an art history major at UCLA. Art history has always been considered by many as a very useless point of study, but it's also a lot harder than people realize. My sister was writing 60 page research papers every month. She was creating 30 minute long presentations on slabs of ancient stone that depicted crude artwork. And yes, that all seems very pointless, but guess what? In the real world, employers know that regardless of what major you take, you're going to be pushed to your limits. In college, you're going to have to do work and you're going to have to learn how to do tons of work in a short space of time. And so, after my sister got her degree, it took her less than one month to find an excellent job at a law firm. Here's a statistic that I'm not making up. 70 percent of college graduates will end up getting a job in a field that isn't related to their major. Therefore, those girls that you're taking jabs at aren't working hard to get a job that doesn't exist. They're working hard to prove to the world that they can work hard. That's all a college degree really is: a certificate that says, "Yeah, this person worked really hard for no money and will now work harder for you for money." Now, if you really want to show a specific employer that you deserve a job in your field, you have to get a master's degree. Unfortunately, you'll find that when you graduate from college with a degree in computer science or computer engineering or even electrical engineering, you're going to be competing against a bunch of people with higher degrees. And that's pretty much why, if you're still an undergraduate, don't ever brag about what major you're taking because a bachelor's degree only says that you're a hard worker.
Fox is corrupt but hey we get to watch the UFC payperview with junior do sontos and Cain valesquez for free other then that blahhhh on both of them.I'm married have a career job with two awesome kids a house a car ect but I have no ambition in life since I play video games good luck on trying to play that crap off of other gamers just sad and ridiculous cnn.
Perhaps, but CNN might be worse because their deception is less obvious. Nice thread by the way. It's nice to see people are beginning to use their noggins.
Why do I have to get married? That has nothing to do with success and contributing to society. What, are we running out of kids?
People only view Fox as corrupt because it's pro-republican most of the time, while CNN on the other hand is pro-democrat most of the time. Most of the people that hate on Fox are democrats. Fact.
What a bunch of garbage. This is the state of mind of news channels: blame terrorists, video games, and nuclear power FOR EVERYTHING! Oh, and overexpose celebrities which are a bad influence to our youth.... Suck it CNN, you have no idea what you're talking about
It is time for men to man up, including those over at CNN. Take the blame for your own lack of ambition don't point your finger at anyone or anything else. Especially not video games.
Must I say this again? CNN, please stop saying crap and keep taking your medz!
When has CNN ever been taken seriously? They skew the news and don't know sheet about technology/games/gamers!
My cousin in the states was the only girl in most of her engineering classes, classes dominated by foreign men. Her brother got a Phd in infectious diseases in labs dominated by foreign men. Blame this stupid pampered country for raising a generation of useless tw9ts whose only goal in life is to be on American idol or get rich doing nothing in the stock market, while the rest of the world commits their best and brightest to the hard sciences.
Well said. Very well said. I read a study in the spring where they polled high school students and the most common answer for a career was "celebrity". That's just wrong on multiple levels but that's what this country is producing sadly enough. I don't blame video games for all the declines we are seeing because video games and people's time spent on them reflects this rather than causes it. It doesn't take much looking around to see how lost the young people are now. Even colleges now are becoming the new high schools with watered down classes and majors as long as you have the money. I'm not against games at all because I play them myself but people's lives are just too devoted to things that don't matter than to what's really important. Entertainment has its place but we are too obsessed in this country.
I wonder what CNN and the rest of the media would think about this: http://www.joystiq.com/2011...
Sounds like an immature needy woman wrote this article who has a boyfriend/husband that dont give her the attention she thinks she deserves.
Also what the hell does wanting to get married have to do with being a man?? lol Times are changing and roles are blurred. This person is having a hard time dealing with it.
so is this msg only for american males? guys in america needs to man up huh? so i guess koreans are manned up already even though they're playing starcraft until they starve themselves to death. and japanese males are manned up cuz they play video games like a religion. what kind of a epic failing femnisnitic bull is this? so guys are no longer needed cuz they play too much video games? in america, there are nothing in it for guys to get married. the females wants to get married so they can control u. and when u get divorce, females take everything u got. only thing u get is ur car and ur clothes. and u are left with 18 years of child support. more kids u hav, more money ur paying the girl so she can take ur money and go party with her new bf she's been hiding away. she also takes half of ur retirement money too. this is why guys dont get married cuz the law favors the female. not cuz guys play too much video games cnn is being retarded. alternative way of doing this is go through a asian agency and go pick up a girl from southeast asia or russia. american girls regardless of race, wants to control u, or take ur money behind the idea of 'love' my statement is in general.
i agree with you 100 percent. Love is a joke in this country. its either hey how big is it, or hey how much money do you have honey. i say forget love,
I'm sorry you guys have had such bad experiences. I love my wife and I know she loves me and I don't regret getting married at all. I love our lives together and I am much better off than when I was single and my daughter makes things even better. You two seriously need to start screening your women better if that's all you have to say
@jbaby in general dude. in general. also the point was when u get divorce. the law favors the female. if there is no divorce involved. than there's nothing to worry about. guys hav too much to lose in a marriage/divorce situation while females gain a lot of stuff. so of course guys dont want to get married and girls do.
14 People that disagreed with you could possibly all be gay, just sayin xD
People that watch Fox are talking about The Black Panthers??? Seriously?? We are in economic meltdown and they want to fuss about a group consisting of two or three crazy old dudes....LOL. unbiased my butt...
I disagreed with him because I am not homophobic. If he left that part out I would have agreed
@pikajew Quit being a sensitive, politically correct, whiny girl. But wait, you obviously have no problem picking on Jews according to your name. That's another thing with PC people: you all are hypocrites. Advocates for tolerance and free speech, but you're all intolerant of speech that doesn't agree with your views.
Practically all the engineering majors at my top ten ranked engineering school play video games. We obviously have no ambition to be going through mental torture on a daily basis. lol
Shut up, CNN. Speak for yourself!
Not just coming from CNN, but from William Bennett, a phony, self-righteous, right-wing conservative. Mr. William "My Morals Are Better than Yours" Bennett is a well-known high-stakes gambler and has lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas, even though he purports to be a conservative Catholic! He even wrote a book called The Book of Virtues in which he argued against gambling and for what he called "self-discipline". What a hypocrite! Some role model for men, huh Mr. Bennett? Makes me sick.
One of the most corrupt and illegitimate organizations on the planet. CNN is an innocent angel compared to that evil acid-like monstrosity called FOX Noise.
^^ Open your eyes homie. You should reverse that statement.
All the hot chicks in CNN can suck my pee-pee.
Nothing worse than an old person trying to tell people how to live their lives. I love how he says man up and get married. Yeah, very manly.
The worst thing any guy can do to himself in the present age is get married!
Couldn't agree more.
I agree 100% but judging by your disagrees there are still a few suckers out there. :)
Lol, I ALMOST got married because I got my gf pregnant. Then she cheated on me before I could make the wedding arrangements. I now live with my daughter and raising her happily as a single gamer dad. Oh yeah, most women today are cheating w@#$&s! Imagine the head-ache I could have had since we don't have divorce in my country!
@ dredge: Where are you at? To All Above: I feel bad for you guys that are blind to what marriage is really about. I wouldn't trade my wife for anything.
@ JBaby343 Be my guest, 'enlighten' us to what 'marriage is really about'. Does signing that piece of paper suddenly magically mean you 'love' her more? Does putting a ring on your finger suddenly mean your relationship is going to last forever? Does it change Anything about the two of you? No, it doesn't. If you want to pretend there's some special meaning behind it through symbolism or some other voodoo belief thats fine but in reality, the ONLY thing you change by signing that piece of paper is agreeing to support her financially when it falls apart....; even though women are supposed to be 'equal' which I point out they aren't which is why they 'need' to be supported by men. Bottom line, especially in this present age, is that for 90% of people, their marriages WILL fail eventually and since that 'piece of paper' and ring-collar don't actually change a thing about the two of you, why put your finances and assets at risk?
I'd say the smart men (like me) find ways NOT to get married...
Status or being older has nothing to do with it! I'm 34, married 6 years, have a newborn son, a MEd in Second Language Acquisition, and teach university EFL courses... And I play a shit load of video games! And I don't think that I'm a rarity. I'm certain a very large percentage of those 18 - 34 males are excellent contributors to society. The only reason why women are taking the place of men is because they're continually finding their niche in a male dominant society.
Here we going again, another news outlet using videogames as a scapegoat for problems in the male population. "The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of William J. Bennett." Funny how most news outlets and websites throws this at the end in small print rather than at the beginning in bold. Regardless we will still blame ya cnn b/c you allowed it to be publish.
I find it funny that if anyone would say publicly that a woman should "woman up" they would be considered sexist & a jerk & it would be agreed with almost unamiously!
Yeah, women need to woman up and get back to the kitchen, get married and have kids! /s @Fez You think men and women are equal then you need a reality check. If you want equality then lets make every sport that is separating men and women combine them. Instead of having a women's 100m dash or a men's 100m dash why not just have men's and women's 100m dash or men's and women's tennis, etc...? @peeps that do not know that we cannot run out of oil http://www.sciencedaily.com... http://www.viewzone.com/abi... http://creation.com/oil-not... http://www.forbes.com/2008/...
IDK they would probably find some other way to insult women for not being womanly or feminine enough, or whatever. One week they'll be insulting housewives for not being "proper modern women", then the next week they'll be inulting career-driven women for being "selfish" and not fulfilling their "proper role" as a woman by having a husband and heaps of babies. Then they'll go back to insulting men for something ridiculous like "men who fish are barbaric cavemen" or "men who watch tv are lazy slobs". Because god forbid a person just be allowed to live their life however they want to. I don't think CNN are happy until they insult every group of people in existence. >_>
not going to lie, I think people against gaming have a lot more to run with here than saying video games make people violent, like they have been doing in the last 15 years.
Yeah women don't play video games. They go to college and graduate and find jobs. Because only men play video games. Waah! lol! Because no one spends time on Facebook and Twitter. Come on CNN. Let's face IT. Society is going underground. We're all gonna work from home and go out less. That's where we're headed. Whether you agree with it or not it's evolution.
i have no freaking ambition cause of no jobs heck the county i live is the most unemployed county in TN
Yeah the article doesn't mention the destruction of the male-friendly manufacturing base through offshoring, or the filling of entry level jobs by illegal labor.
Lucky you, I manned up and suffered severe injuries at work; now I can't work even if there are jobs! Ambition is f'ed up! You work your @$$ of for these people, but the first time you have to say no to anything, all your hard work is forgotten in one second! Then the @$$ kisser who buys the boss coffee everyday gets the promotion!
I think the world forgets this is the US, in the rest of the world MEN are very much in control. This man thinks he talks for all of man kind, america is just one place, not to mention I have done studies that say his facts are in correct Men are on the incline in certain areas, esp in Science and Tech men are hired at a rate of 8 to 1 and preferred over women Women have had a huge increase in the recession they are hired for the same jobs men were at half 3/4s the wages in the last 10 yrs My list goes on and on, point is, A: Video games need to stop being blamed B: Men rule the world no matter what happens for a period of time If you read the bible, it says so If dont believe in God or the Bible, Science says Men do as well As the world turns fellas, life is good, enjoy it
Men do rule the world, but they shouldn't. It should be equal. I can tell you disagree and I bet you don't know why.