PS3 Firmware 4.0: Next major update discussed Each time we see a minor update to Sony’s PlayStation 3 software we’re met with a bucket load of features that users want, also a few problems different users face with the system. The idea of firmware updates that don’t bring new features, and instead fix security and bug issues will only keep PS3 users happy for so long. So we wanted to look at the future and what PS3 Firmware 4.0 could bring, which will be the next major update.

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xX-StolenSoul-Xx2391d ago (Edited 2391d ago )

Sony said Cross Game Chat is not possible. Not enough ram and the XMB is a Ram hogger

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Rhythmattic2390d ago (Edited 2390d ago )

Some good points here..

My Cross Game Chat input..

In the last PS3 update, I can now only Mute my Official PS3 mkII Headset while in a game....

Take it for what its worth,but to have a mute function that works by keeping your friends in contact, through out play, but dis-engaging everyone else.. Afterall, you'd never mute yourself for a friend.... Would you ?

Maybe its their way around the supposedly MS "Patented" crap , or maybe with each OS footprint they reduce, they could free it up for Other uses...
Maybe I'm wrong, and most likely I am, but it seems crazy to lose a mute function, while not in-game..

Bleucrunch2390d ago

Speaking as an IT professional...RAM is gold the more you have the more the device can do at a single time...that is why RAM cost so much...But I am pretty sure the next playstation will have a sufficient amount to do what is needed...but don't expect a crazy amount...RAM is expensive I can't stress that enough to my fellow gamers.

STONEY42390d ago

In today's world, 8GB of RAM at $50 is not expensive. Neither is 4GB for $30. I do expect at least that next-gen.

Gawdl3y2390d ago

Erm... No, RAM is not expensive. You can get 8gb nowadays for $60 USD, many times for even less.

GiNJAXL2390d ago


Hmm.. you'd think an 'it professional' would know that RAM is extremely cheap.

This has already been expressed thou, by the guys above me.

An 'it professional' would know that the actual use of ram for something like cross game chat would be so low that if Sony seriously can't figure out how to enable it they should start thinking about hiring people who actually know what they are doing. Their OS hogs so much god damn ram it's retarded. 60% of the ram usage could be freed up if they removed all the BS on the dashboard. I already own a PS3 and know about the Store you don't need to run adds for both on my dashboard. Certain services could be dropped completely. why have both a movie store and a game store when you can access both from each other? Why not do what any one else would and combine them. (Microsoft needs to do this as well)

Hows about that picture viewer? Oh that's right 95% of cameras allow you do to that very thing simply by plugging it into the TV.

Music player? Why!? You know you own a stereo. Why not oh I dunno.. use it. Not to mention that desktop or laptop you have sitting there.. both of those play music. Even if they don't have a disc drive you can use Pandora/Last.Fm many of the internet radio stations so on and so forth.

Hows about that "whats new section?" Do you need that? Hmm? Do you need to know that you recently play Uncharted? You should probably know seeing as YOU JUST PLAYED IT. The rest of the info in that section is adds. Just what we need a constantly running add generator like as if the XMB doesn't have two of those already.

Hows about that Home.. that was awesome wasn't it? No? Oh whats that you turned it on once and then never used it again? Yeah.. just like everyone else. If they wanted to do Second Life on the PS3 they should have just done Second Life on the PS3.

jhenri2389d ago

I think you mean it's expensive to use a lot of ram in console. Sure you can get 8 gb for $60 or whatever but when you add that cost into what the other components are going to cost, that adds up quickly. How many of you guys are willing to pay $600 again.

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T3MPL3TON 2390d ago

They could easily modify the XMB to hog less ram to free up enough for Cross Game Chat, but then again they wouldn't need to BECAUSE CROSS GAME CHAT DOESN'T USE RAM.

xX-StolenSoul-Xx2390d ago

not as easy as you may think, they actually had a problem with the ps3 that made third party games look bad because the XMB was a memory hog and they did fix that issue but it's hard to lower it down anymore without suffering extream performance.

Look at the Xmb while ingame, it runs slowly right?

Cross Game Chat does not use ram on the Xbox because they implemented that feature into their operating system before the console was released.
Ps3 never had this in mind so the only way they would be able to add Cross game chat is by using up more ram... which they wont do.

princejb1342390d ago

last time i was hyped for a ps3 update dinasours walked the earth
commong sony bring me something new and interesting
at least minimize the in game xmb so it can load faster

xX-StolenSoul-Xx2390d ago

i would much want a full blown XMB interface update. I feel left out, Microsoft updated theirs 3 times and we never got our updated besides for Dynamic themes

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tr00p3r2390d ago

I don't believe that the PS3 isn't 'powerful' enough to handle cross game chat.. it's just that Sony are too fucking lazy to put it in yet, and when it does come it will more than likely be a Plus only feature anyway.

DragonKnight2390d ago

Oh yes, because Sony hasn't ever listened to what the fans want and (for reasons that are beyond the ken of mankind) fans have NEVER repeatedly asked for Cross Game Chat. It's not the most requested feature on Playstation Share Blog at all. /s

Troll somewhere else.

RevXM2390d ago (Edited 2390d ago )

Im with tr00p3r on this one.

PS3's os requires about 50 MB of the ram.
While 360's os requires only 35 or something...
And 360 got more ingame features... what does that tell you?

It tells me XGC should be possible.
Its not the most important thing of all, but I would sure as hell apreciate it!

Sony should be able to free up some more memory for sure and also make thing faster, slicker and smarter etc.

DragonKnight2390d ago

You're forgetting the way memory is allocated in the PS3 is different from the 360, you're also forgetting that the PS3 has more multimedia features than the 360. There's all kinds of reasons why it isn't just about 50MB of RAM for the OS. It's also likely that MS has a specific patent on the way they do XGC which forces Sony to find another way. The truth is that we don't know everything, but to suggest that it's just because Sony is lazy and doesn't want to add the feature is asinine.

gamingdroid2390d ago (Edited 2390d ago )

It's pretty simple really, the PS3 OS although occupies about 50MB of RAM, but it is actually split into main memory and video (local) memory in 7MB and 43MB chunk. See page 28:

That means, it is that much harder to reduce it if it is even feasible. Especially since Sony originally had allocated 120 MB for the OS and already reduced it by 60%.

My inclination is that xross game chat being the most requested feature for years, Sony would have done it if they could. I mean the system is 5-years old.

Maybe with a complete redo of the dash (like MS is doing), but that would be a huge undertaking considering all the API hooks already in use. Also Sony is too busy focusing on PS Vita. They pretty much abandoned even PS Move so by the time they get it released, we might very well be in the next generation....

playboi282390d ago (Edited 2390d ago )

Are people forgetting the steps forward that Sony already made? Did people honestly forget that the PS Store used to be a webpage? Did they forget that there was no in-game XMB? Netflix used to require a disc to play? There was only a Sixaxis and not a Dual Shock 3? There were no trophies? They had video chat BEFORE PS Move & Kinect? People really need to cut them some slack. They do listen. Usually, if they haven't done something (especially something so highly requested) it can't be done. For example, people have been complaining about the Xbox 360's crappy ass d-pad. They came out with a "replacement" that's almost just as crappy. Reason? Patent issues. Research before complaining people!

A-Glorious-Dawn2389d ago (Edited 2389d ago )

When me and my friends play we use the text chat...It can be used regardless of what game your on, it can be accessed with the press of a button and you can have multiple rooms open for different groups of people...

We all have usb keyboards hooked up as well so we chat fast.

I think this feature is largely overlooked and hugely unappreciated.... When you get in game the mic's come on.. may be a bit slower, but is the result not the same?

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T3MPL3TON 2390d ago

I agree trooper, there is no reason they can't put it in, they just refuse to.

CynicalVision2390d ago

Having the ability to do something simple like deleting 0% trophy data would be great.

waltyftm2390d ago

Well said, got a few dodgy Jap games that could be done away with.

LoneWanderer092390d ago

Also a option to delete some Avatars i got so many that came bundle together and i downloaded them just for the fun of it, but now it takes a long time to get to the ones i really like

THC CELL2390d ago

We don't NEED cross game chat, its spoiling gaming
I was playing bf3 with people in party chat and i could not tell them where to go and who is getting shot at.

Same with halo
Now if they say well all servers are not aloud party chat for matchmaking games then i will approve
Sony don't add it.

M1chl2390d ago

Because if you have a choice use something, its always worse...

JellyJelly2390d ago

I bet he didn't need rumble and trophies either...

Canary2390d ago

No, we don't NEED it. At all. Doesn't everyone has a cell phone by now? Use that.

Hell, we don't even need CHAT, period. Chat would only be useful in some theoretical game where one player acted as a "commander" and could set down waypoints/objectives/routes on the map. When everyone is just running and gunning it's just pointless chatter--which is often incomprehensible due to the cheap-ass microphones being used + mumbling + background noise.

Raoh2390d ago

party chat is the worst.

I played left 4 dead 1 or 2, i forget which, on the 360 once and I could not get any feedback from my team i spoke and spoke and spoke until finally one person came on and said 'oh sorry me and the other guys are on party chat' then continued to ignore me again.

why bother leaving that spot open? why party chat if 3 of the 4 people playing are playing the same game?

damn shame what online chat has done to people.

Ezio20482390d ago

i know i am being ridiculous but if we could play on our PS3 with an Xbox 360 user?
specially a shooting game.....>_>
no leave it...neither its possible nor anyone would want that..
anyways i am happy with my PS3 but i would want to play all classic PS2 games!!!

roguewarrior2390d ago

should of got the 60GB PS3 when you had the chance(: