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Don Lindich's Sound Advice: Blu-ray lacks features found in HD DVD players

Don Lindich (nationally syndicated columnist in the USA and creator of the "Digital Made Easy" book series) responds to a reader who criticizes his recommendation of HD DVD over Blu-ray in his previous column, "HD DVD leaves Blu-ray in the dust". Lindich explains that HD DVD players have certain features that Blu-ray lacks.

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eagle213595d ago

I get PM's from hd dvd users switching to Blu Ray. The movie quality and selection counts most. Hd dvd needs a savior right now. This ain't it.

MikeMichaels3595d ago

Storage. HD-DVD has already hit a wall as far as this goes. Who cares about gimmicks?

fury3595d ago

Both formats will remain and sooner or later hybrid players will be the standard. The same happened to DVD-R/DVD+R, the only grave difference here is the space Blu-ray and HD-DVD can hold. The rest is the same...disc is disc for the end customer, they wont really care.

robep33595d ago (Edited 3595d ago )

When will these so called experts learn some features are BOLLOCKS
My plasma has PIP guess what only time its ever been used is to show
off to mates look 2 pics at once its a complete and utter waste of time anyway all the HD DVD guys always say that everyone is buying PS3's as players anyway so guess what FW updates will keep it up to date until PS4 is out. SALES OF MOVIES ARE WHAT COUNTS TO STUDIOS
BD 9:1 in Japan 4:1 in EUROPE more than 2:1 overall GIVE UP HD DVD.

Rob.

BrianC62343595d ago

Why does anyone care what some clown thinks? He wrote a book? Wow, I'm impressed. Not! Blu-ray won this battle a year ago. Now take HD DVD out back and put it out of its misery.

C_SoL3594d ago

but ya, who cares. most of the $hit they mention was for geeks that are all into the player....man, most people don't even realize they have a blu-ray player in there PS3...what makes these people think that an average consumer is gonna know most of the features that go in to the player...people just wanna watch movies and thats it. that's why blu-ray has the better advantage, cause it has more movies period

IRISHCALIBER3594d ago

Storage! Lol, Thats all you guys care about huh! It never ends with blu-boys when all logic points towards HD-DVD, here they are now saying that although they share the same qualities in video and audio, it's the extra space not being used by their lackluster features that makes Blu stand out to them. It doesn't matter that all of their games only occupy 1/4 of the discs capacity. Blu has some usefulness on the PC but even then HD-DVD would still be fine for my needs as far as media storage goes. This is such an in between format that spending $500 to get set up makes no sense to me what so ever, but spending $100-$200. to rent HD-DVD from Blockbuster or Netflix makes alot of sense. Although I rent most of my HD-DVDs I admit many of my classic faves like Excalibur, Dune, The Thing, King Kong, and a few others. I have purchased these as upgrades to my DVD collection do to their amazing clarity over their DVD counterparts. If you feel the need to spend more to get what others have equally for 1/5 the price then nock yourself out and blow that cashola.

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Meus Renaissance3595d ago

The title of this article is quite ironic.

FamilyGuy3595d ago (Edited 3595d ago )

It's funny even, "Sound" Advice and HD-DVD is the one lacking in the sound department...
When i first glanced at the title I thought he was saying that HD-Dvd had better sound quality/capabilities/

actionjackson3595d ago (Edited 3595d ago )

I agree. And I think the irony extends further into the article. I'm not taking sides, but by saying things like Blu-Ray doesn't feature PIP yet, or that HD-DVD is a complete spec sounds great, but the whole picture is not there. First and foremost, PIP is already offered via firmware update for most Blu-Ray stand alone players. The PS3, as anounced by Sony will be compliant by the end of the year. Second, HD-DVD is not Complete Spec. The early adopters will not be able to play the new triple layer disks on their machines. This then does not equal complete spec. Just some food for thought. I think this format war is actually interesting from a business standpoint. This time around, in a format war, it seems like capacity and the advent of new technology are highly regarded by the end user. Unlike VHS v Beta, which was solely driven by a price conscious society, the HD-DVD v BR battle is not limited solely by price.

Edit --> @ gh0st1492 (below)

Nobody is fighting. However, there have been many articles recently that a lot of first gen HD-DVD players will not accept the 51GB disk. I may be wrong, but isn't that was it being said.

http://www.engadgethd.com/2...

And

http://www.reghardware.co.u...

Therefore, in essence, it is not a Complete Spec.

BrianC62343595d ago

He doesn't like Blu-ray, I guess because it costs more than HD DVD. Sounds like a cheapskate to me. My advice to him is stick to DVD then. If you spend a lot of money on a audio and video system should you really go cheap on the heart of the system? I think not. Anyone listening to this clown is getting bad advice.

blackmagic3595d ago (Edited 3595d ago )

Meus and Family:
I think you guys need to rethink your stance. Both HD DVD and Blu-ray have mandatory support of Dolby Digital, DTS, and Linear PCM but only HD DVD has mandatory support for the newer Dolby Digital Plus (DD+) and Dolby TrueHD (Lossless) whereas these are optional on Blu-Ray.

Quote:
"I should mention at this point that at least one working Hollywood sound mixer has voiced his opinion that, when played back on his professional dubbing stage, well-mastered Dolby Digital Plus soundtracks encoded at the high 1509 kb/s bit rate that Paramount uses can be audibly transparent to the studio masters, when tested on movies that he mixed himself and would presumably know better than anyone else."
http://www.highdefdigest.co...

Keep in mind that Dolby Digital Plus support of a stream up to 3000 kb/s is mandatory on HD DVD. just under 90% of HD DVD releases are using Dolby Digital Plus. About 20% are using the lossless Dolby TrueHD. NO releases use the lowly Dolby Digital.
http://www.hddvdstats.com/

Now look at Blu-Ray. 122 titles or about 30% use the lowly Dolby Digital as the primary audio which is not only an older CODEC but also only supports up to 640 kb/s.
http://www.blu-raystats.com...

actionjackson
1. 256mb of local memory (to store bd-java) and a secondary video decoder is required for PIP. This is hardware that doesn't exist on any profile 1.0 players approved before Oct 30th (PS3 obviously excluded). A firmware update CANNOT create 256mb of physical memory and a second physical video decoder.

2. All articles concerning whether HD DVD players could read 51GB discs stemmed from this interview with Jim Armour, Engineer - Optical Disc Device Division, Toshiba, who was asked about whether players could read 3 layer 45Gb discs:

DVDTimes: Basically, not good enough to get anything out of, then?
Jim Armour, Toshiba: Not good enough to get information out of, WITHOUT this PRML circuitry, and the first drives don't have PRML circuitry built in. I don't think that even with a firmware upgrade, you'd be able to do it.
DVDTimes: Right, it's physical hardware then?
Jim Armour, Toshiba: Yeah, I think second or third generation hardware - fine, but not first-generation products.
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/c...

Toshiba must have figured out how to do it though because here is Jim Armour's outlook now:

The good news is that the 51GB discs should play in all HD DVD players currently on the market. We discussed this with James Armour from Toshiba's optical storage division at CeBIT this year, and were told that although the third layer would be harder to read, and generate more data errors, the player's error correction should be able to fix these problems without picture and sound problems.
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/dvd...

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HeartlesskizZ3595d ago

HDdvd is great but when it comes to high def and sound BD is the way to go. is like saying AOL is better then RR. somebody needs to bring out a real competitor for BD in terms of quality =)

jaja14343595d ago

I'm curious as to why you think BR is so much better? This is not really meant to flame BR but unless BR comes out with 100gig disc anytime soon HD offers the exact same thing. Both use the same video/audio so aside from the possibility, although very big possibility, that BR will have 100 gig. Why exactly is it so much better?

HeartlesskizZ3595d ago

I dont know if you own both players. I own a ps3 and my dad has a HDdvd player so I practically own both....so I put the 300 movie and found out which has clearer sound and the quality look better. so if you do have both try it your self =)

jaja14343594d ago

Well that has less to do with the formate and more to do with who transfered the movie to HD. Kind of like when The Fifth Element first came out. Not sure if you saw it, but holy hell they butchered the thing. So many frames tearing this way and that. Yesh they managed to screw up my favorite movie.

Truth is both formates use the same decoding codex to well decode the movies they play. The reason why version might be better than the other, in your case 300(though I would argue that as I have seen both, but thats not the point I'm trying to get across). Anyways in the case of 300 one might look better than the other because of the person/persons who authored the HD video. Which is just something most of the fanboys refuse to beleve.

Basically the only technical difference between the two besides which color laser they use, and how they are created, is the disc size. Which unless BR releases their 100 gig soon will be a moot point as HD will/already has a 51gig one.

ps. After much complaining they fixed The Fifth Element and I'm happy to report it now looks great. :)

games4fun3595d ago

well if he says so my personal research counts for nothing because I'm a blind consumer and i wait for him to suggest something and never look things up. Better go to Walmart and buy a hd-dvd player. lol

Antiomo3595d ago

But the features are coming, and IMO they are not as important as the sound and picture from the movie itself.

If hd-dvd got rid of all the features then most discs should have lossless sound.

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