The long awaited Xbox 720 release date and Sony PS4 launch could see the first generation of truly 3D enabled consoles land, industry expert and BAFTA award winning game developer Paul Jeal has revealed.
For me personally, I hope they are not 3d centric! I'm just not a fan of it.
Not centric obviously , just probably coming with it as a standard option on most if not all games
fook 3D I would rather virtual reality. As long as either the PS4 or 720 was designed with that in mind. Not some lame ass add-on
Unless you live in toontown then virtual reality would include 3D
Actually numbskull if you knew how the human eye sees no it wouldn't. People see in 2D with a field of depth the same would apply to virtual reality. Well unless 3D was forced into the tech as well.
Your comment makes no sense. You see 2 2D images which the brain then analyses to infer the depth based on the slight differences between the two images. And all 3D technologies do exactly that. If virtual reality didn't mimic this is some form then it wouldn't be much like reality, it would be like watching a regular 2d video.
@ Menech Before you call someone a moron, do your research. Look up terms like Stereoscopic 3D, Inter-Ocular, and Convergence.
Trust me it's better then forced motion controls, at least the 3D won't get in the way of core games or dumb them down like motion controls have done. Let's face it when motion controls were introduced it made gaming mainstream and added the whole casual/hardcore thing. I don't think 3D will be that bad.
wouldn't you rather they focused on 1080p 60fps gaming? 3d will effectively split fps in half.
I know but hey, I'm not saying it's the best choice but it's far better then focusing on Motion control gaming. I mean you won't see someone like Microsoft opening 3D based studios instead of opening ones that could be used to make new IPs and exclusives like they've done with Kinect because 3D wouldn't need a studio would it. Let's just be thankful that they could move away from it then forcing it forward when people aren't interested anymore. Although I do agree we shouldn't need gimmicks to push the games industry forward.
Something tells me next gen is going to be even more focused on motion controls. I can also imagine consoles being built in Tv's or somehow attachable like current hard drives. Vr and holographic tech is what I want. Just imagine the tv following you like kinect and while watching a horror movie or game andit projects a holographic ghost behind you or sitting near you. Ot: 3d is ok but I hope it doesn't take the center of attention.Sony will probably plan ahead for 4d though.
well you play 3D if you want. for me 3d is a plus.
So the PS4 and xbox720 will also come with vomit bags.... It is already reported that expended 3D view has brought on various health issues. His and Her vomit bag with console logo.
As long as it remains an option and no games REQUIRE a 3D TV to be played than it will do well next gen, maybe even more so than now if they can up the tech of the 3D effect in games and/or lower the price of 3D TV's in general. Slowly but surely :) Though it was kinda obvious that next gen consoles will be 3D enabled from the get go, at least on Sony's part.
3D tv's are reasonable now, you can get the 42" Vizio E3D420VX for $650. Though I don't think "3D" is going to encourage people to purchase 3D televisions. I think its the ability to watch 2 programs simultaneously on one screen. Or play split screen games without having to split the screen. See links below for the upside of 3D tv's for those of you that could care less about 3D! http://www.engadget.com/201... http://www.joystiq.com/2011... http://www.tested.com/news/... LB
And we will all be worse off for it.
That bloody image...
I think 3D is cool, I never used too, but hey what's wrong with having the option? These new consoles will be here soon *Awesome!* But I think I'm gonna wait 3 years into their release before I purchase. They always seem to have issues in the first 3 years. The PS slim is an amazing machine that rarely plays up and actually performs dynamically better than older ps3s. It'll just be hard to miss out on all that 'ITS NEW' buzz.
well they come with a free 3D TV? if so then you are right :D
If they do 3d then they must also ensure: - native 1080p - 60fps (sustained) - no tearing - no texture pop-in - no jaggies I hate the drop in quality when playing in 3d on the PS3.
Sony are always going to go for the cutting edge technology available during their next consoles development cycle & use it to their advantage effectively & affordably. P.S...You have to think a head technology wise when your talking about sony's mind set. Cheers Gamers & Happy Gaming!
..."effectively and affordably"... you have no idea what your saying.
Agreed. He seemed to have forgot how much money Sony lost just bringing the PS3 into the market. It lost so much money that it negated whatever revenue the PS1 and 2 generated altogether. He seemed to have forgot how much of a development nightmare it was resulting in crappy ports and developers losing money in making games for it.
That is exactly the opposite of what Sony officially said they were going to do. They stated that the next console they put out would not be that much of a technological jump from the PS3. They obviously don't want to repeat the same mistake they made last time.
You obviously misunderstood what you heard by sony!
Sony never said that. Sony executives stated they would not put in the same amount of financial resources as the PS3. They said nothing per say as to how much power over the PS4 will be over the PS3
"Sony are always going to go for the cutting edge technology available during their next consoles development cycle & use it to their advantage effectively & affordably." $600-$700 launch for the PS3 was not affordable. In Canada the PS3 launched for $700+ How is that affordable? The PS2 launched for far less even when taking into consideration inflation. And if you read what Sony executives said about the PS4, they stated they would not be putting in the same type of financial investment into the PS4 as they did the PS3. They simply do not have the money to do so this time. Also there were areas like the Xbox360 where Sony cut corners in that technology for the PS. The GPU being one of them. It was already generations old when it was decided to use the 7800GTX class GPU. The RSX was not cutting edge at all. It was still a non-unified Shader GPU with no embedded ram on board. Meanwhile all GPU's coming out at the time of the PS3 were unified shader GPU's with full HDR+AA support and tessellation support to some degree. The RSX had none of this as it was based off the NV47 Nvidia architecture. The Xbox360 had a cutting edge GPU with embedded DRAM on die, however the CPU at the time was not cutting edge per say. Sony could have went with the more forward design of the 8800GTX that was out. http://gamerant.com/sony-sa... That link sums it up. Straight from Sony themselves. "Sony is determined not the make the same mistake twice by ensuring that their next console is one that can turn a profit immediately, not years down the line." "In the meeting, Sony‘s Chief Financial Officer Masaru Kato stated that the recent increase in PS3 sales can be attributed to its lower price tag. He wishes to retain this profitability with the release of a new console, and as such, it would make little sense to repeat the mistakes of the past by launching it with a high price tag." If Sony brings out the PS4 that is "cutting" edge than they will repeat the PS3 cycle in loss per console. Sony will have to charge $600+ once again to cover most of its costs. Something they stated they would not do again...and as yuo know Sony is still in financial restructure. So doing this will not be an option. Shareholders have already stated this won't happen again. Don't expect to see a $600+ PS4 with top of the line parts this time around...And I also say this of the Xbox720. Don't expect MS to have top of the line parts either as consumers have witnessed what happens to a $600 console and how that effects sales...
I like who the submitter changed it from (could) to (will)
3D and motion controlled gaming will be the death of this industry.
Umm. No. It's the expensive new hardware technology resulting in higher development costs and having to sell more than 1 000 000 just to break even effectively pricing smaller companies out of the market that will be the death of the industry.
3D will not become popular until it works without the glasses and regardless of where you sit. Its meh enough in the cinema.
Will nex-gen gaming consoles finally have the right amount of horsepower to run 3D PROPERLY?
They won't be 3D-centric. They WILL have a stronger focus on it than this generation, however.
The latest tv's till date don't support full 1080p 60fps 3d. The max they can allow is 720p 60fps 3d :S PC's already allow for the best 3d experience without the lost in quality and full 60fps if your computer allows.
full stereoscopic 3d cuts frame rate, alpha buffers and frame buffer native resolution in HALF because it requires 1 alpha buffer per eye 1 framebuffer per eye and 1 frame per eye most console 3d enabled games only fulfill the first 2 requirements and leave out the 3rd as it causes massive performance loss and cuts frame rate in HALF if killzone 3(for example) was rendered in full stereo 3d you'd have to play the game at 15fps which doesn't make sense. games also look worse in 3d as halving framebuffer and alpha buffers always causes loss in image quality. the only console games that can run full stereo 3d are those that run 60fps in 2d mode and we all know that 99 percent of console games run 30fps in 2d mode. full 3d is simply too demanding. I'd rather play a game at 1080p 60fps 2d than 960x1080(because frame buffer will be halved), half the alpha resolution at 30fps. metro 2033 for example will need 2 gtx580s to run in full stero3d at max settings high resolution and that will only get you 25-30fps average those cards will cost $1000 and a wicked electric bill every month 3d on pc doesn't cause loss in image quality by the way but you'll need 2x the horespower to prevent this
Such hatred towards 3D! How will we ever reach virtual reality akin to that of what they do in Avatar, if we don't perfect 3D?
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