"I don't know about you guys, but I'm really excited to see this trend catching on more and more in my gaming sessions of Battlefield: Bad Company 2, and maybe even more importantly, in the YouTube community." MP1st
I agree, I'd very much rather they keep K/D out of the match leaderboards and keep them as personal stats.
Yes exactly, for non-TDM gamemodes, K/D plays a very minor role. It shouldn't be on the leaderboards. @Wenis well, I see what you're saying, but new players don't get that. Personally, I play the objective then look at my K/D, but others might not go about it in this order.
I disagree. Its always interesting to see how many kills & deaths people get in a match. Showing a K/D on the scoreboard isn't going to make people play for only a K/D... people that do play with concern about their K/D will still play the same regardless of whether it is shown on the scoreboard or not.
That was one of the things I enjoyed about BF:BC2 was at the end of the round (Rush mostly for me) you just saw a overall score which could have been influenced by objective based performances as well as kills and vehicle kills.
I completely agree. I was actually just talking about this very thing the other day with a friend. About how when playing CoD or most FPS' i tend to worry about my KD. However, when playing BF i dont really care, its much more about going for the objective (or defending it in some cases), and more importantly, enjoying myself while playing the. And careing about KD later. Its funny, i tend to have a KD in most games of 1.6-2.3 depending on the game, but in BF im sitting pretty at 1.17 atm lol. Then again im usually the one running at the objective rambo style trying to activate/destroy it. Man i love BF, and cant WAIT for BF3
GUYS.. K/D Ratio is all that matters
I don't particularly use K/D to judge whether a player is good or not, but it does come in handy for getting to know where one comes from regarding their skill level AS LONG AS they've put enough hours into the game. It isn't exactly accurate using it for new players within a certain title since it usually has nothing to do with their abilities, typically due to unknown maps, unbalanced teams, skill stacking or bad luck. In my case, I remember when my K/D ratio was like 0.4 on BFBC2 when I first started playing... now it's 1.16 c: OT: Yeah, I agree. K/D ratios shouldn't be everywhere. That way we can keep the COD fags uninterested.
That's exactly what I'm saying. I like seeing players who have great K/Ds because they play the objective. True beasts.
Nothing I hate more than players who go into an OBJECTIVE BASED game type, only to worry about themselves and their precious k/d ratio. "It's ok guys, I'll stay back and guard our spawn point while the objective is all the way across the map..." Edit: Maybe DICE should have separate k/d ratios for different game types. That way people can play properly?
People will make a big deal out of their K/D ratio in BF3 as always. Too many people would rather pump up their ego than really play the freaking game.
Do you know whats even better than that :D when people get all pissy about it hahahahhahahahahahahah
Excellent article. I especially like how the author contrasts the BF and CoD franchises without being a fanboy about it. Good job.
Thank you sir! I really appreciate it. I do love both games, but play them for different reasons.
I tend to do better when i play the objective than when i decide to run around like a chicken with no head.
I couldn't agree more. Some gamers are absolutely obsessed with their K/D ratio stats and it can get old quickly. Keeping focused on the objectives and not your personal bragging rights is the way to play. Great article!
I know I fell in that trap for a while, but Battlefield was my saviour! Thanks for reading!
yes when i play cod my team mates always bragging about k/d and is funny how i only play for fun and my k/d is higher than theirs
This applies to all objective games. It really annoys me when people are going for kills instead of the objective.
It's easy to have a good K/D ratio, when others are running like crazy to win the game, and you, are hidden somewhere = shame. the solution is simple : give more points for objectives, give X2 for the team who whin, and you 'll never again see the donkey players on the field.
Exactly what i was thinking. Though i think there should be more ways to get the pts too. Like sub objectives i guess. Sticking together or giving a teammate a boost over a wall to sneak in through the " backdoor".
it makes it more annoying when complain about losing afterwards... >.> like they were much help with attacking or defending the objectives
Pretty simple, if you just want kills play deathmatch
pretty simple, try to achieve main objective of the game... I will give you hint 1) not blowing mcom, 2) not securing flag 3) not having k/d ratio high 4) not having w/l ratio high. Can you guess?
holy crap! there are ppl that like to win and don't just spawn trap for kills!? really!? i need to add and ONLY play with you guys lol. ps3 or pc which system for cod 4 or mw2 and battlefield games? that said if you still play counterstrike source i'm down for that as well.
What's better? A guy with 100 kills? Or a guy with 100 assists? Assisters are the real heroes.
Lol like my friend always told me, assists are just your unfinished kills :P He would also get on me about my high assist numbers.
lol. It's deffo a 'cup is half full/empty' thing.
guy with 100 kills guy with 100 goals guy with 100 hoops
Exactly ptfo! I'm only worried that since they show your kills in scoreboard the people who come from cod may not want to do the objective in fear of ruining their k/d I hope my friends who get this game aren't like that. I always play the objective but it's a losing battle when your arming m-coms and the other 11 people on your team are sniping
well i do both, and i have a 1.75 kd in kz3, and a 2 kd in black ops
Just putting it out there, even though its kinda obvious: Mindlessly "ptfo"ing, without actually suppressing/killing enough people to take control, is WORSE for the team 9/10 times than a decent rambo who has no interest about the objective at all, but manages to harass and kill many enemies. Also, communication makes this worse. EX: Defusing M-Coms but playere keep rushing and getting killed by the enemies watching over it: Scenario A: All rush repeatedly like lemmings hoping someone succeeds during enemies reload times Scenario B: All rush to find attackers shooting defusers and nobody actually defuses global team chat pleazzzzzz
This has actually been a serious issue for a long time. I remember in BF1942 (back in 2002) typing all sorts of shit into the chatbox to get my team to actually take objectives. I blame Call of Duty almost entirely for this mindless stupidity. That series puts way too much focus on killstreaks and K/D Ratio. And its popularity has ruined FPS gaming. If I ever own a server in BF3, I will make it a personal priority to ban anyone who camps for K/D and gets their team defeated. If you do that shit, FUCK YOU! PTFO or GTFO End of subject.
Theres a fine line between camping for K/D and playing the objective..... You have two opposite ends of the spectrum: The guys who sit a mile back picking people off purely for K/D The guys who run blindy into the objective with absolutely no comms or support and complain about their team. Ive been accused of going for K/D just because I have alot of kills in BF2 & BF2:MC and to be fair if im at the point were I am on 40+ kills youve got to broaden your scope and understanding of the game because if ive killed that many people im going to be drawing them away from the objective or stopping them from getting to the objective. Theres nothing I hate more than close minded players who do nothing except run at the objective then screaming at whoever has the highest kills complaining about not doing the objective.
I like to win so.... I play the objective get the most kills cuz I'm at the objective and I don't die a whole lot, but the main point is I'm always going to the objective what ever game it is be it call of duty or battlefield or any other game I have because going 9-0 in a domination match isn't helping the team.
I've never even seen anyone care about kd until cod4. Those games live on kd ratios. People only play to get it higher. Other games keep people playing because they're fun.
understand the point of the article, but I would rather play with a bunch of guys who have an everage K/D of say 1.75 than .75 . It's about how effecient you are as a player period. Go play COD or BC2 TDM for a couple rounds then look at your teams wins/losses and I guarentee it has a direct coralation to your teams K/D. Sad but true. Back when I played COD 4 ( the last good COD game) all the guys in our clan had K/Ds above 1.5 and we won 75% of all games. Compare a baseball team who has high combined batting average to one who has a low one. Which team will make to the playoffs more often ? You can't dispute math.
It's true. It's why I at least included that I think it's still important to be able to shoot stuff efficiently. I think the problem lies with people who completely forgo the objective and let their team down because of it.
basically, you gotta kill to push. Can't push much by dieing too much.
The perfect solution lies in more improved rewarding of a team with extra xp or something for winning the match. I have a 2.30 kill death ratio on mw2... but because winners get 1.50 x their indivdual points in killzone 2, i used to fight like a dog and ignore my ratio
Lol, i just got battlefield so im pretty terrible. I know very well i will get shot down if im in the objective area so i just hope to get A kill in before i die :P
I'd like to see an assist number or something. Ever since Uncharted 2, I've been far more concerned with my assists than my own Kills. And that makes way more sense in a more tactical, team-based game like Battlefield. The number could be somehow weighted based on health/ammo dispensed, revives, and other things, but I'd rather see those numbers than my K/D.
The guy who wrote this article is a genious. PTFO all day people. It doesnt matter how high your K/D is if you loose. Thats not the point. Winning is. Unless you are playing DM or TDM. Still however, winning is the point. Also, where are these players!!?? Man i would love to play with people like the guy who did these videos. It would make at least half of my games more enjoyable.
k/d 3.12 w/l 2.43 = me :D But, most of my K/D is from either Heli or tank.
I think it really goes down to what platform your playing on, PC and Xbox 360 are known for having the oldest and most mature players while PSN is filled with 15y olds kids raging on the mic. Find good friends to play with, find a good server too ( thats why i will be always rooting for dedicated servers ) and your good to go.
Even though I agree with your closing statement I have to disagree with your previous one. Platforms hardly judge the gamer community you run into but I believe that a good chunk depends on the game itself.
I agree with you.. I myself actually ran into the same amount of "15 year old kids" on the Xbox and the PS3. On certain games I see more older players and on some certain games I see a lot of younger people..
I thnk "Forget your Kilstreak and play the objective sounds better.
I could careless about my streaks. When I play I'm like Rambo running to capture flags and complete objectives. Sometimes finish positive and sometimes not it all depends who I play with and how I play. I've even finished with more deaths than kills but get one of the top 3 spots overall because of points. I laugh at the whiners who complain they are negative like anyone cares.
Valuable live are important. The one thing I hate more than a k/d Whore is a player who goes rambo for a crate just to help lose us tickets... I have a 2.07 k/d ratio and I always score in the too for rush or conquest... its about being smart and not many people are in he battlefield
Objective Streak! That's the way to go... instead COD has gone so far there's even bloody death streaks! Kill streaks are for people who don't play as a team and campers.
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