Sony's little baby turns one. The PS3 has been crawling along, but can it walk or maybe even run? Sony is still aiming for 11 million units sold this fiscal year with 160 new games.
1 more year at that same rate would be 11.2 million. We all know it will sell more due to more exclusive games and content..
But it is very interesting to see that the gameless ps3 performed just as well as the 360 in its second year run.
the 360 did 12-16 million in 2 years.
I understand everyone expected to dominate within the first year. But its hardly tanking, unless some how.. selling the same amount that the 360 did in 1 year is tanking..
The 360 sold barely 13 million in two years..The PS3 with a high price marked on it is able to sell close to 6 million in one year which is great. I see them selling another 2-3 million this holiday world wide..I see even more sales climbing when MGS4 hits the PS3 March of 0.8. Also there are many big title games coming in 2008 only for PS3..Its going to be big year for Sony they might even pass the 360..
The PS3 isn't out the race yet.
You forgot a couple of things there.
The Playstation brand SHOULD sell more. Just because it has 120 mln. PS2's out there and the brand is supposed to be so strong.
Thus, selling about the same as the 360, isn't good enough. Therefore the sales ARE dissapointing.
Another fact is that the PS3 did great at launches, especially in Europe, but after that the sales dropped. We can say: PS diehards bought the hardware to any price, but constant sales are on a too low number.
Also important: Sony believed they could have outsold the 360 in no time. They certainly didn't.
When we look at the current sales numbers, in USA the 360 sold about 550k the last two months per month, while the PS3 sold 100 to 130k in those same months, how is the PS3 every gonna catch up with that 8 mln. units behind the 360?
The 360 is gaining momentum and is moving into the position the PS2 was last gen. Largest installed base, most 3rd party support, more gamer out there buying games = more interesting for dev's.
This Christmas the 360 is supposed to outsell the PS3 2:1. Which means another million more to catch up to in USA alone. That's INSANE.
So yeah. Selling the same only in year one as the 360 did, isn't tanking for the 360, but it IS tanking for the PS3. The 360 was gaining and advantage, 6 mln. to catch up to to start with. Even if it only sold 4 mln. it wasn't tanking. All was gaining in front of the PS3 launch.
@ Unlimited (above)
"The 360 sold barely 13 million in two years.."
Wrong. It sold 12 million units somewhere this summer. It sold about 550k in USA alone in September, another 530k alone in USA in October. Add to that the rest of the world for another what, 300k a month. That's 850+830k and the real birthday of the 360 is at the end of november. So another 600k at least may be added to that. so about 2.3 mln. on top of that 12 mln. and it's well on it's way to have sold 14.5 mln. units in 2 year.
getting a little hot under the coller mart?
80% of those 120mln people with a PS2 are going to move to a PS3, that's how strong the brand is.
When they change to next-gen the PS3 will have plenty of attractive games plus a cheaper price.
Xbox 360 will have nothing new to add, no Halo, nothing. PS3 has brand name and great exclusives.
Wrong again. Those 80% that own the PS2 are price buyers. Called Laggards in the buying proces of electronics. Buying a console that's on 200 Euro/Dollar first.
The 360 will be on that pricelevel sooner then the PS3. Already I have heard many people that owned a PS2 before, that bought a 360 this gen. Have you done a survey that shows 80% of those 120 mln. will buy it? Well?
Wrong 13 million in 2 years..Even Microsoft even admit it..
The PS3 did just as good as the 360 in its first year..
If they care about price and don't care about brand why aren't they trying to buy a Wii. For them that must be the same thing, right?
What they are thinking is that they are having fun with their PS2 and that will last for a while and then they must choose a console. The console they will choose is the one with good exclusives, good price and reliability.
Not only reliability of hardware, but they know the PS has give them a lot and they will trust in the PS3
i just picked up Uncharted and its GREAT!!!!
lets not forget most ppl didnt buy a 360 1st year i was won as i was waiting for the ps3 as i thought it was a much better machine than the 360 but after both were realsed i go tmy 360 like 4 months ago and was actually suprised at the machine so the 360 is doing very very well tbh but why shud i say this whemn its clear to see
To all Sony supporters, I hate to say this but I agree with Mart about the 360 numbers...the numbers which is probably partially due to people buying 360s AGAIN to replace their "RROD"-ed 360s!!
The Software scene is a NIGHTMARE...... 360 OUT SELLS PS3 40 to 1 !!!!
So you understand what that means, if you buy ONE copy of a game for the PS3 ...40 people buy it for the 360
C'mon man. The system came out a full year after the competition AND it came out with a much higher price point. Brand alone will not carry you under those circumstances. In fact, I'd argue that it's because of the PS brand that the system even did the numbers it did in year one. Let's face it, it went against Gears, multi-plats usually looking better on 360, game delays, lost exclusives, and it still didn't tank. Stop trying to spin this as negative news for Sony.
They got that wrong.
dont trust that site
that site has ad ware and spyware.
I don't think those numbers are right Says You.
6 Million were the amount shipped at that time, 5.6 million have been sold to consumers now
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who's the greatest console in the world, my ps3
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Idiots like you are the reason sony sells its over hyped POS. They claim its a super duper uber computer system and you believe it. Cuz
BTW when is little kss coming out of ur ps3's drive?
Hold on, I'll get some links to show you.
edit 1 - Ok, so here is the CELL BE (aka, the chip in the ps3), being used for realtime 3d medical imaging. watch it and see why it's super duper. http://www.mc.com/microsite...
Edit 2 - This is [email protected]http://arstechnica.com/news... No? Well, you tried.
Edit 3 - This guy created A cheaper alternative to a $5000 dollar supercomputer using ps3s so that he can run calculations on astrophysics -- http://www.wired.com/techbi...
So OK, it's NOT blue gene or anything like that, but it is pretty super duper.
LMAO ...At they are getting the RROD..I feel bad for them if they do end up getting it around Christmas time..They have to send it Microsoft and wait another month or two to get it back..
Imagine buying it on for your kids or friend for xmas and they open it up and set up the 360, and and turn it on and the red lights of death is flashing in front of their eyes..lol..
"Ubisoft's Haze is the first title to be created on PS3 and ported to Xbox."
Thought Virtua-Fighter was the first game to do so.
5.6 million is not bad at all, given all the negative press over cost and lack of games.
Microsoft sold 6 million units in it's first year, and had to battle the Red Rings of death fiasco. Which is admirable to say the least since it's still somewhat of an issue for them. Then to, they had no real competition except for the PS2 (which they have just started to out sell....I think?!)
Heres the link...
11 million units sold with a lower price and a better selection of games, should be fairly easy for them.
Selling 5.6 million units with competition from Nintendo, Microsoft and you might as well include themselves with the PS2. If you really look at all they went through over the course of the year....that's still pretty damn good. I'm impressed....I don't know about you guys.
And who knew Nintendo was going to be the next "must have" console of the three? Although I really don't see the appeal in it. The thrill was gone for me after about 3 hours. I haven't touched it since, at least till Super Mario Galaxy comes out.
Why do I get a disagree and kss (no offense bud!!) up above me doesn't for his comment. Is that not an actual Microsoft yearly earnings statement? Did I bash any of the other consoles in order to make another look better?
Your comment was based on facts and nothing even came close to sounding like a fanboy comment. I'll agree i think Sony doing good considering the competition. I do however feel they are lower then what they expected and what the people expected considering the remarks by Sony. None the less they are doing good.
WRONG the ps3 was the comsole most gamers were waiting for so when it came out there wa s amssive search for the ps3 even tho we knew nothing about its software think about it every last gen gamer had a ps2 sony was the omly true console game company most ppl knew inc me but know as the 360 is the lead console the ps3 will never catch up i can bet if the ps3 ever wins this console war i will never post here again
Not to contradict what you said but i don't think the PS3 was the console most gamers were waiting for. I think that is the Wii.
As for the massive search for PS3's i don't know where you live buddy but here in the CA even when the PS3 launched you could walk into any store and buy one. I work at Best Buy and i have friends call me and ask me to hold a PS3 if and when we get them. I just responded with "We have a ton just come in"
Like i said the PS3 is doing good.
I don't think its doing as good as it should given its brand and popularity.
If the PS3 beats out the 360, Mesh will never post here again...I'm going out to buy 3 more PS3's, how 'bout the rest of ya...j/k Mesh, nothing but love for ya there bud!
Everyone has such high expectations of the PS3, it will be impossible for it to live up to the hype, the good thing is it is built very well, the tourture tests it has survived were cool to read about, and in the end it was the temp prob that did the system in. Those tests told me how well built this system is. Point of interest. Yesterday the 15th marked Microsofts "Live is 5" celabration, one of my co-workers was trying to join Halo3 with me for the multiplayer and his 360 kept locking up finaly getting the RROD. So he went out to Walmart and snatched up a Arcade version to get up and running. I have suggested it before, but just how many 360 owners have multiple 360's because of this...this makes his 4th 360 btw!
Good on Sony, they can sell units... What about software now? Attract some 3rd party dev's Sony... Not everyone can make up for their losses with you paying them. Insomniac, Naughtydog and Sucker Punch all have the benifit of security in Sony as they will pay the bills for marketing and advertising... EA, UBI and Namco don't have that luxury with your system.
EA's problem is definitly their own, not Sony's. Other devs have put out 1 or 2 games and gotten them right on the ps3, yet EA has put out countless games on the ps3 with performance issues. EA is one of the biggest devs around, if smaller devs like Infinity Ward can put some people to a ground up build for the ps3 and 360 seperatly and be hugely successful, there is no reason a company with the resources EA has cant do the same.
Sony only touts sold numbers now, remember the memo?
The fact that it's first year sales can be compared to that of the 360, which didn't really have much competition in its first year, is a fantastic compliment towards Sony's brand name considering all the negativity surrounding the console mainly due to its initial price.
One thing people tend to forget is that, to Sony, they already expected this. In fact, at TGS Kaz Hirai said that they expected more themselves. Remember, the PlayStation is still the biggest console brand in the industry and considering its domination in the last generation, to be on terms with the Xbox now is not entirely complimentary especially if you consider that Sony must, from now on, dominate hardware sales every week, every month, in order to overtake the Wii and the 360.
5.6m in its first year isn't bad but it needs to honestly be triple that figure in 2008 in order for Sony to make a statement to Microsoft and Nintendo, because don't forget those consoles will continue to sell well, that they are still a market favourite. If they can't manage that, then perhaps the Sony brand name isn't as strong as people think. Personally I'm pretty optimistic that Sony will do that.
2008 is crucial. But 5.6million is good, but praising isn't as relevant as some would think if you look at the bigger picture.
Yes the PS3 needs to and will do incredibly well next year. It's been the same pattern with the PS1&2 that the 2nd year seriously out paces the 1st year but 2008 it not crucial as you put it.
If we go by what Sony's consoles have done in the past we can clearly see that 2010 is in line for when we should expect to see the PS3 surmount an overwhelming lead and carry through to 2012/2013.
It very funny how PS3 forums every where were flooded with doom 'n gloom stories filled false & misleading info. Only to see despite all this and two competitors, the PS3 sold just as well as the 360 in it's first year with no competition and sold just as well as it did in it's 2nd year with a year's head start.
There's no way a 2 year old console should be fighting with a 1 year old console. It should me miles ahead by now and uncatchable.
Well so much for "teh PS3 is doomed; It's too expensive and no one wants it; Sony iz teh failure; Sony will come last this gen; No chance of PS4, Sony will bow out of hardware and go software only; (and my all time fav) teh PS3 iz teh flopz!!1!0!11!; HAHA! :D
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hey sak of balls, im just telling a joke assmaster for god sake cheer up! do you have sand in your vagina?
these people are going by what sony said they sold at the tokyo game show remember.
there at 6 million now though
Key word here folks is "SOLD"
Sony doesn't have to manipulate the numbers like M$ did a few months back....LOSERS!!!!
Trying to pretend like the 360 is going somewhere.
The ONLY place the 360 is headed is just around the corner from where the original xbox made it, and not very fram from that....AHAHHAHAHAHA
I say add another million ontop of what the original xbox sold.....AHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAH
LOSERS!!!!!!......Can you people tell I love ripping on the 360 and it LOPSTER fans....AHAHAHAHHA
5.6 million in its first year is good. Given the expense, poor multi platform conversions, the wait for plenty of great games and the fact that it has the 360 and the Wii for competition, it compares favourably with the 360 - which sold 6 million with no competition in its first year.
I still expect this machine to have the largest installed base by the end of this generation - as its best is definately still to come.
They still sold less than the Xbox 360 in it's first year. The info that was linked was 11 months, not one year. I know 1 month doesn't sound like much, but the month was November which is a very big month for console sales. If someone wants to dig up the number, by all means do so.
"Xbox 360 has sold 6 million consoles worldwide life to date and achieved record cumulative attach rates for software and peripherals in the United States, while Xbox Live passed the four million member mark during the quarter."
At the rate the 360 is going, it's only slightly ahead of the original Xbox's sales numbers. The PS3 is even less. If anyone wants to say that the PS3 is selling well, they need to also say the Xbox and Xbox 360 sold well too. I really don't see that happening anytime soon.
Sony surly wants to sell more PS3's than they did PS2's and of course the original PS. If you look at the first year sales numbers on either of those two you will see why people say the PS3 is "tanking".
Software numbers are also crucial for long term success. PS3 is struggling with software sales. It's a great console, I really don't understand why it's not supported very well by the Playstation Community.
So what happen to the 8 plus millions
5.6, Jesus, that's a flop.
(Even the Gamecube did more in a year)
Please no one respond to him. He wants attention. Don't feed.
You sound, poor, bitter, confused, lost, unsure, insecure and above all else.. like a Peter Peltcher. I'm sure you're a smash hit with everyone you know.
I guess the 360 flopped since it did the same number as the PS3 in its first year..
The fact is the 360 is doing better then the PS3 in NA..But its doing Great in JAPAN AND EUROPE.. It all even out for Sony..
No Joke..... and the 360 is out selling the crap Wii now is it not?
And its just gonna get better!!!!!!!!!!!!
Isn't Haze supposed to be a full exclusive or is it timed?
Because why would an exclusive gt ported
It's been announced a couple of months ago. The site's info wasn't up to date that's all.
The PS3 is doing fine, they sold over 5.6 million you really cant bet that for the price. Im very suprised. 08 is a big year for all the consoles not just sony. Its going to be a great 08 for gamers
damn its amazing how it has sold half of what the 360 has sold in a years time and its considered a flop? give it another year and it should be at where the 360 is now, maybe even ahead with MGS4 coming out.
Will be on the 360, how can you not belive that? Where would you want to sell your game?
Should be "JUMP OFF" tehehe XD
activity's or something.
anyway, it doesnt matter if sony has brand name or not, 600 bucks was still ALOT OF MONEY.
second, the wii caught up to the 360 with shortages in supply in a matter of 8 months and it was 6 million behind.
even if it takes the ps3 2 years to catch up,it WILL DO IT. all it needs is japan. if it can sell 6 million consoles in japan next year, that alone will close the gap by a big margin.
this console war has about another 5 years to go and the 360 can only go by NEW IP'S. the ps3 is gonna go by PROVEN FRANCHISES.
this christmas the 360 is supposed to outsell the ps3 2 to 1?
i hope you dont believe everything you read. supposed to sell more? does that even make sense,lol.
and then the 360 is at 13.5 million my friend, the guys over at microsoft JUST SAID IT YESTERDAY. so you fail hard dumbass
TheMart...your numbers are so far off...did you not just see the NPD numbers...360 sold a little over 300,000 in the month of Oct...please get ur facts right before you post...
1 full year in US and Japan only
7 Months old in Europe.
How can people come on here and talk about how the PS3 is not as good as the 360, when the 360 hardware is junk. Anyway, the PS3 in my opinion will catch up to the 360 by next christmas. Lower price point is one reason, but these 4 titles are the other reason.Killzone 2, SOCOM: Confrontation, Final Fantasy 13 and Metal Gear Solid 4. Its as simple as that. MGS 4 is being hyped up way more than MGS 2 ever was, and MGS 2 ended up selling over 7 million copies. MGS 3 ended up selling almost 4 million copies. Theres no need to worry about sales, good things will come in the next year.
I wouldn't bring up the 360 it was a known fact many millions of early adoptors were waiting for PS3's mighty 5 times more powerful console that had launch games that the 360 couldn't touch this whole generation. You shouldn't bring up the 360 because it was sold out almost everywhere untill the following April of its launch.
That was because Microsoft were struggling with production even before launch. I remember they only delivered around 50,000 consoles for the UK. Although I'm sure it was popular, but you make it seem like it had a Wii effect on the market. The Wii is massively popular, and also has production shortages but that's different to how the 360 started off life.
i heard a nintendo uk exec on the radio today say they are producing 1.8 million units a MONTH and still cant keep up with demand.
regardless what people argue over the wii has already won this console race, they are selling in shops in the uk for £290!! nintendo were making (rumour) $70 per unit at RRP (£180).
the 360 and ps3 are just fighting for second.
Well, It's true that the Wii is way ahead of 360 and PS3 in sales, but I Stated this several times before, The PS3 will be supported longer, Like the PS2, therefore Like the PS2 It'll win this Generation.
The Wii and 360 will Live 5 years and then be unsupported.
The PS3 Will Last 7 to 10 years, so by the time it's not supported anymore they would have sold many more then the 360 and Wii.
Both the Regular XBOX and GameCube are nolonger supported, yet the PS2 has 80 New Releases and 41 coming soon games.
It's Inevitable that the PS3 Will sell more, It's just taking Longer due to It's price.
for a machine fighting off HD-DVD, the xbox with a better software line up, the wii and i much much lower prices from its compition.
The demand was different for the two consoles at launch thats what counts and the demand is different in the leading market now. MSFT could have sold twice as many Xbox's if they had more.
That makes no sense. The shortages for the 360 lasted around 3-4months globally, so if they could potentially have sold twice as much, why didn't they after there was stock e.g. the other 22 months that didn't have shortages
I Don't want to sound like a fanboy but the 360 having shortages is no excuse for not doing better, The Wii always has shortages.
Besides, ponder this for a moment: What if the PS3 Came out the same time the 360 came out?
overall I'm very surprised the PS3 done this good in It's first year, with harsh compitition, Higher price and no good games for most of this year, and it still sells 5.6 million.
We all bought them for the Blu-Ray player of course, or didn't you get the memo?
Depending on which way the wind blows, we are either doing nothing but Folding, playing with Linux, watching Blu-Ray movies, or playing games. It all depends on who wants to make what point when! Problem is, they are all right, when I am not playing my games, I am watching a BD movie, if I am away from my system, I am folding, and if I want to browse the web, I will either use the built in web browser, or fire up Linux!
My 360 was getting less and less time spent untill Ace Combat 6 came out. Gosh that is a great game!
I dont see how they are gunna sell 11 million consoles by March 2008, especially considering that the MGS4 wont be coming out before then (it was dalyed after they said this though). I just wonder when LBP is coming out, because that is sure to sell systems is its really as good as people say it is.
This article obviously doesnt take into account holiday sales, so there will be much more consoles sold by the end of 07 (I would say about 6.5-7 million) which would stand the PS3 in great stead for what appears to be a teriffic 08.