GamePro: Cliff Bleszinski of Epic believes that "if you're a Final Fantasy Tactics guy, you probably shouldn't be reviewing Gears of War." Does he have a point?
Yes, in a way. What I believe is that, if you DON'T like a genre, you shouldn't be reviewing games within that genre. I play any genre, as long as the game as good. I have my preferences but I go into games open minded. A lot of these journalists that review JRPG's for example, go in with pre-emptive negative thoughts and don't even like the genre. RPG's should be reviewed by people who like RPG's. Because you know, RPG's are made for RPG's that play them. Same with all genre's. He has a point I think.
wth why are u get disagrees. Everything you said is right.
There, I added an agree to even it out.
Cliffy hit it on the nail as usual.. Uninformed gamers reviewing a genre that they hate is a straight up injustice. It hilarious how his comments got Destructoid and now Gamepro losing their minds and spinning the comment as negative as possible. Doesn't matter..at the end of the day..Epic delivered.Gears is here and when those numbers come in Cliffy can enjoy the fact that the fans voted with their wallets..
My god this guy thinks he is immune to criticism. He acting no better than Kevin Smith right now. Dont even defend this guy. He is just trying to whore more attention by saying stupid crap as usual. Class. A. Troll.
dosn't stop western shooter loving reviewers from flaming JRPGs
It's BS i say . What truly matters , is if the reviewer disclosed from the get go that he isnt a fan of the genre , therefore providing an external outlook upon the game . What would also matter would be someone not purposely reviewing a genre he clearly hates .
hell ya, i completely agree. if i were to review gears i would probably give it a bad review, thats not because its a bad game, its because i dont like first person shooters. on the other hand, if i were to review white knight chronicles 2 i would give it a great review because thats the type of game that i like. what i dont agree with is the way hes only taking offense when its his game being reviewed like this. if he thinks its bad he should speak out in defense of other genres which get negatively reviewed by fps fans.
Um, its a third person shooter.
Excellent article and I agree with it completely. Cliffy tends to get overly defensive of his 'babies', I can understand his desire to protect his interests but he doesn't really think before opening his trap. I'm still shocked by his ignorant comments on the Playstation buttons! I mean, come on, the square, circle, cross and triangle are as iconic and synonymous with gaming as the Mario mushroom.
I would say that A & B are way more iconic. I mean come on...Contra code. NES and basically every other console since (besides the sony ones)had them. I still think the sone button characters are daft.
You know you're a fanboy when you star debating over which button characters are superior hahah :D jk
@RedHot You said it. Never thought I would see someone try to start a "my buttons are more iconic then yours" argument.
Lol I'm not gonna debate what buttons are the best; I was just pointing out that the PS ones are more iconic than cliffy gives them credit for. Why does everything have to be reduced to a bloody childish competition!?
And you wanna know who started it all? Our good friend Cliffy.
Funny to he should be making that complaint when the industry has been overly focused on FPS/TPS this gen. More so when the man manages to come off as being a fanboy. Weather or not he actually is.
I agree, if I listen to rap music, what gives me credibility reviewing country music if its not my thing? I also counter agree, because seeing people's opinions from people of a different element can help you build a game that keeps them in mind or allow a better transition for them in the future.
I think the author is trying to say that people can like more than one genre, and can therfore give their opinon on the games within those genres. Like someone can like tactical RPG's and 3rd person shooters. Atleast that's what i got from the article O.o
I think he has a point... I don't know what she's called or what game she was reviewing...but a female reviewer on Eurogamer gave this game (it may of been a PS3 exclusive) a low score even though the game was actualy alright. She said her self she was more of a Super Mario Galaxy 2 gamer and liked those types of games yet she reviewed this game despite not having an interest in that genre basicaly letting her personal feelings get in the way of the review. IF anyone has a clue at what game it was I'm going on about please feel free to tell me....it's bugging me actually. Although, I supposen on the other hand if a person is in love with that type of genre/game/theme then they will over look most problems and give the game a really really high score.
Yep, you're right. Ultimately, this is a terrible case of bias. This person REALLY shouldn't be reviewing this game. It's very hard to eliminate bias completely from the equation though, as everyone has preferences when it comes to everything.
No. My most anticipated game of this year is dark souls, but if I only played games like that I'd have nothing to play all year. People play their favourites but they also play games from other genres. What's wrong with a final fantasy tactics guy reviewing gears? They're both games. A good reviewer will see the game for what it is and explain who the game is for in the review. It might not be the reviewer's favourite game, but he could still give it a 10 out of 10 because it would be appealing to other people. I think it's stupid to say "no, you're not reviewing my game because you like another genre." because at the end of the day most reviewers call a spade a spade. It's either a good game, a bad game or meh (yeah, that's the scale I'd use if I reviewed games) if they didn't enjoy it it's because the game has problems and they'll explain these problems in the review which will help you, the reader decide if they're big enough issues to deter you from buying the game. So stop having a cow.
He has a point. Has anyone ever asked a GameStop (or GameStore ect) employee for a opinion on a game. I asked a guy what the pre-order bonus was for Gears3. His response "I have no frickin clue, I've never played the game before" He then went on to rave about how cool Space Marines was. Clearly we had different gaming backgrounds. Cause I said "isn't that kinda a Gears rip-off" And he said "No way, if anything Gears ripped off Warhammer" my response was "so how long has Warhammer been a 3rd-person shooter exactly?" Employee "I know, that's what makes it great!" /different strokes, I guess
I personally feel that gears has the kind of universal appeal that it can and should be reviewed by all walks of game critics. Sometimes with a super high profile popular game its nice to read a point of view that isnt coming from a super fan with a predetermined 10/10 score. On a different note, I would hate to see this guy put out a ps3 exclusive, his head would probably explode trying to figure out the "haters"(his word).
You know whats funny? Cliff and the Epic crew toned the game down in order to appeal to a wider audience. Yet he complains about people who like other games shouldn't review Gears 3... NOW WHAT THE HELL KIND OF CONTRADICTION IS THAT!!!
This man speaks the TRUTH. Unfortunately you are not the first comment so no one will see it. Oh N4G...
This is the problem with the game industry as a whole. Both media outlets and game developers tend to show how immature they are within the profession. And this also shows how far it has to go in order to really get or be respected like that of film and books. Way to go Cliffy for being the bigger man! When editors or film directors get panned for their works, do you ever hear them calling out review outlets? Instead, they stand by their vision and product and in most cases they can admit their own work's fault. But, alas, the industry tends to show that it is made up of fanboys just like the ones whom read and purchase this stuff.
I think this is a problem with professionalism within the video game media, and within other mediums really. A game should be reviewed and critised professionally, taking into consideration other games from its genre. I believe a good reviewer should be able to review any genre and tell you what is good or bad about a game even if they hate that type of game. For the critics/reviewers who get paid to do it, they shouldn't let personal bias overtake their view on a game. However because it often does, I never really pay attention to one review from any one source, I always check out a few before deciding on making a purchase.
I love Final Fantasy Tactics, and I will be the absolute first guy to admit I would not be a great person to review a Gears of War game. There are some games though that can breach all genere stuff. Those are truly incredible games (though there can be incredible games for the genere and fans of that genere would say its better). Prime example of what Im saying. Uncharted 2 is a great game that most gamers can enjoy. Demon's Souls is arguably better for those that are big fans of Action RPG's. Both are excellent.
I think Cliffys wrong, I'd personally rather see someone who wasn't 'emotionally attached' to a games' developer, franchise, or console maker reviewing the game. I need someone to give me an honest no-bs description of a games flaws, and I won't get that when the guy reviewing the game wants to gloss over things to protect his own interests. I bought gears of war 2 after the media said it was the best game out there, only to get bored to death 1 hour in.
While he does have a point, I dont feel he'd be making these statements if gears had only gotten raving reviews. It's impossible for everyone to entirely agree on something, and I feel he is wasting his time. If he feels he made an amazing game, good, enjoy the success of it and move on. Calling people haters because they didnt enjoy it as much as he felt they did is kind of childish.
I agree. You don't want someone reviewing a franchise or genre that absolutely hates it, because you will not get a review that is objective and has an opinion that is within the bounds of reason. Likewise you don't want someone reviewing a franchise that they are completely in love with. Like me reviewing Uncharted or Bioshock, I would give those games automatic tens. Or in the case of Bioshock 2, hate it so much for not doing anything for the franchise.
Stop cryin like a little bitch, your not the only game that gets that attention too. My wife is right....he looks like a bitch, therfore he probably a bitch. Just sayin
Let me get this straight...So if Gears isn't my number one type of game, I have no right to give it a low score? Because I don't like rolling around and getting shotgunned all game, I shouldn't be giving my two cents? Sorry Cliffy, but just because some people don't like your game and play other types of games doesn't mean they don't have the right to say what they will. Don't like the reviewers article!? who are you to question their article? they're a reporter and you're a game developer! Two different job types. Guess you can't give your opinion on their opinion!
Cliff Bleszinski is probably one of my least favorite people in the video game industry, but I actually agree with him on this one. It's a two way street though, so reviewers who don't like RPGs probably shouldn't review them either. The only exception I can think of is the Mass Effect series because it has a lot in common with shooters too, but if you've never really liked Final Fantasy games then please don't tell me what you think of FFXIII-2 when it comes out.
*dodges the cheetos being expelled from screaming hater mouths.
Cliffy B is master of all genres.
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