Metacritic just recently got their hands on the first group of Mass Effect scores from 5 reviewers so far.
WTF!? What is wrong with Hardcore Gamer mag? They gave 4.2/5 or something to BioShock and now 4/5 to Mass Effect!?
In every great game on reviewer has to give a "bad" score, that just prove that reviews are nothing more than opinions.
Very good point and comment. I honestly don't remember a game having 100% good reviews. Even Mario Galaxy had one negative that I saw on Joysitq and so did BioShock (8 from Edge and 8.4 or something from this mag).
@MK_Red: maybe they are expressing their opinion? since that is what a review is...an opinion
I know it's an opinion but should reviewers think about general opinions?
I mean, I have a friend / co-worker who who hates GTA and gives them . Should magazine give him GTA4 for review!? NO. I don't like sports game so I never review Madden or Fifa because in my opinon they are hardly above 3-4/10.
This has happend before. Remember Eurogamer's NeverWinter Nights review that got 5/10 and reviewer talked trash about the game and RPG? I feel most of recent reviews are the same with Assassins getting 6.7 to 10 and now ME getting 8 to 10...
Since when is an "8" a bad score?!?!
Actually there is a VERY heavy difference between obvious review bias in which the review is affected by the general predisposition to that type of game by the reviewer which does not occur that often but is very evident to see
and them we have that the game or simply didn't lived to the hype or was not for every one as CLEARLY demonstrated by Assassins Creed a game in which the majority of reviewers gave 7 and 8s compared to the 9 and 10s and unless that majority of reviewers are incredibly biased it looks like Assassins Creed didn't lived to the hype and/or was not for every one
to a game that has been hyped AAA and GOTY
360 fans don't complain much about scores, we been there done that and have AAA titles to prove it not in just scores but sales.[look it up]
You PS3 gamers are little whinos, whine whine whine, about 10's, 9's, and 8's.
conspiracies and all mumbo jumbo that is made up to make you and your gangs feel better, as if there is some "fanboys against review sites, and MS owns them all" cause.
Go buy the fn game, see what you think and stfu.
Plenty that do whine, haven't even played the whole game or beaten it but goin g by what you think it should get from a fn DEMO. Just because your opinions are not stated and writtin in a professional manner like review site and mags, doesn't mean you have to start begging for perfect scores, for every game.
10' 9's and 8's are fine with me, once I've played the game I'll tell you what I really think. Right now games don't deserve this or that because you said so or other fanboys agreed; when they are the definition of bias in the first place.
This game is what you think of it, after you have played the damn thing and beaten it. Then, only you can compare to someone that have done that, as well as what they do for a profession and living.
MK tell me you got a PS3 yet?
Some of you should start your own review sites, then there be less whining since you'd give every games 10's for the console you like most, or only play.
Well, that review is an opinon and I'm just expressing my opinion that the game doesn't look like an 8 to me.
As for PS3, nope. UT3 was delayed and so my PS3 purchase. Right now, I'm about to get Wii. Have to finish Zack & Wiki, a true classic.
I mean, it's not as if you can actually measure the beauty of something, or the numerical value of a storyline. Reviews are opinions. I think that in video game they have become much more prevalent recently. Probably the best thing to do is to go by one or two reviewers or sources that seem to mirror your opinions of games you've played. Or better yet, just try the games you want to try and avoid reviews altogether, but I guess that could get you burned.
It's strange, I don't know when I saw my first game reviews and started to care? Maybe with Halo: Combat Evolved. That game was the fVck best one of the trilogy, hands down. But now I see them all the time and they can completey destroy the anticipation I once felt for a game. It's sad actually, I think sometimes the anticipation you have for a title can be something that really helps you appreciate a title. (or set you up for disappointment)
I guess these good reviews will make MORE people excited, so that's good, I guess.
aside from one score its really not bad, and considering that they did this before its no surprise. The ratings for this game seem pretty good nonetheless.
Hope good ratings continue and we don't get another drama with some giving it 7s and others giving it 9s and 10s.
But hey, it's a BioWare game and they have proven themselves more than once.
i just hope i don't play it so long that me 360 overheats. :P then agian i have played oblivion all night before on it without issues so i should be fine.
I really want to play this so bad now. But if i do get lucky and find it before the release date, that would be bad becasue i gotta finish some important stuff in college before the thanksgiving break starts :(
Great reviews coming in for Mass Effect, I just got this game about an hour ago! can't wait to play it tonight after work.
@MK_Red I am not too concerned about the 8, reviews are always subjective and an 8 is still a really good score. By all accounts Mass Effect is easily a contender for GOTY, it's already guaranteed to be the best RPG this year!
Agree, ME is definitly RPG of the year if not GOTY. 2007 is Mass Effect's but 2008 is all Fallout 3. Hope we get more info on Obsidian's Alien RPG game soon. If that one comes out in 2008, it would be more than fun to see a new game from Fallout 2 devs competing with Fallout 3 from new devs.
But FFT is RPG of the year, it was the best final fantasy ever made did any body play the update version yet? Its crazy
This is a MASS EFFECT thread- meaning, no one cares about FF, or whatever as of now. Maybe later, perhaps.
About the FFT:WOTL that recently came out it's not like i'm attacking it it's just my opinion.
of the same crew that goes around trolling threads about PS3 games saying that since they didn't get 9.5's across the board they are not AAA??
I could say the same about Mass but then again I actually enjoy good games and don't care about silly review scores that suits hateful xbots at their convenience.
i wanna play this game so bad
...Mass Effect FTW!
With expressing my opinion it's not like I'm bashing DAMN calm down that's why i lose bubbles
The 8/10 review said shooter fans will be disappointed. Maybe he didn't know he was playing an RPG?
that is what I was just coming to say.
Shooter fans probably aren't going to love Mass Effect as much as RPG fans...obviously...because ME is an RPG.
It is like saying RPG fans will be climbing up the walls while playing Halo 3, lol.
i have heard about some people not knowing it was an rpg. it is like a hybrid rpg/shooter but a rpg nonetheless. Im just glad its not really turn based.
"i have heard about some people not knowing it was an rpg." snoop_dizzle, I heard some members here thinking it's a FPS and counting it among 360 FPS games like BioShock and Halo 3! LOL.
Mass Effect is a true RPG first and most. Shooter elements are secondary and are just here to increase the fun of combat. As I said in my other comment, it's wrong for a shooter fan to review an RPG which looks like what that reviewer has done...
i already got mine on pre-order. I have given up on scores. If i'm looking forward to a game, i'll buy and make up my own opinion.
some of these quotes are hilarious "shooter fans will be dissapointed" or in uncharted's case "cliche story".
i should've preordered the collectors edition initially a while back when i pre ordered the game in store. I might still, if there are still any available though. :(
The problem I think reviewers are going to have with ME is that the combat has always been played up as shooter centric rather than traditional RPG combat. Everything I have read or heard has pretty much called it KOTOR meets GoW. While the story may be awesome the combat may be lacking. At least that's what the negative reviews have been focusing on. Also, the story may make an RPG, but the combat can break it.
I'd say the critics are pretty much in unison. ME is a winner!
In fact, it smells like GOTY up in here... or that could just be the scent of a relatively flame-free post. Now this is paradise.
A November to Remember.
MASS EFFECT FTW !!!
I think the main thing that reviewers have a problem with is probably the third person shooting. From the gameplay footage I've seen, the combat doesn't look as fun. Is there even location specific damage? However, the game's open endedness and epic scope more than make up for this.
Mass Effect shall spend many hours in my 360.
I can tell you that much.
MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS....
Of Sweeeet Next Gen Bio-licious goodness.
...I'm drooling all over my preorder bonus disc as we speak.
i think those are great first scores. still geared toward GOTY and a AAA title.
i mean, c'mon...if anyone thinks this game won't kick ass just go to gametrailers.com and check out the newest gameplay vids. they're awesome!!!
i guess some reviewers have to feel important.......8/10 FVCK THAT!!!!!
Official Xbox Magazine 100/100 (now thats more like it)
Game Informer 98/100
Electronic Gaming Monthly 92/100
only 5 more days, i already have my money ready for this one.
i believe there is not going to be a demo on this game so if you don't have enough money and are looking forward to at least trying this game out just rent it.
i don't know if you really can rent mass effect being that its such a big game. This is the kinda game that you have to buy, unless of course it isn't your cup of tea.
hopefully their will be enough of mass effect to go around, if not don't kill your self it will come to you soon. (speaking to anyone hear who wants mass effect and mite not get a copy)
I'm sure these guys are ready for a big sale 2k, epic, and bungie were.
Its definitly an interesting game, and by going by the reviews it is also good, but Western RPGs don't appeal to me I just don't find their storylines attractive and also I don't really like the how they play either, but by all means this is going to be a contender for GOTY.
I personally prefer, Final Fantasy and Star Ocean games.
*gunshot* MMMMMMM WHATCHA SAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY
guys dont worry the good thing about good reviews they will review this gme as its mant to be an RPG 1ST thus it will be goty and also its a shame because ppl brain dont seem to catch up to technology to fast they cant except a 40hr rpg is in real time action tijmes are moving on TUNBAsed rpg died a long time for me tbh know we get An rpg that looks amazing and cause u can shoot in real time ppl can it a shooter hahaha if u go guns blazing in mass effect u will die 24/7 its a tatical game like kotor not a all gun shooter also ppl moan about SQAUD ai haha duhhh 70% OF UR SQAUD CONTROLLS is the player dircting them on what to do so i wuid not exxpect them to play them selfs as its a rpg .
Hey buddy, commas, periods, LEARN how to USE THEM!!
This is a PRIME example of WHY you NEED to go to SCHOOL!!
I got this game Saturday Night right after Assasins Creed. Its an RPG with a 3rd Person Battle Style. Alot of talking and backtracking (because of side quests). Its a great game, great story...but if your more into fast paced action and u have a tendency to skip cutscenes on other games, then this isnt for u. If your a RPG lover that like great stories, then this game you'll LOVE!! NUFF SAID!!
dont believe that I have it? look me up. gamertag: FULLYLOADED420
Im getting ready to test out Kane and Lynch, Soldier of Fortune and Area 51.
yes...i have those too!!
PPL LIKE U shud nott own mass efdfect even putting it in the catigory of a shooter shows ur brain capabilty
people like you should return to the 2nd grade so that you can learn re-learn english basics.
RPG/Shooter is definitely the coolest new game category to come along in quite some time. The best of both worlds! I'm hoping Fallout 3 will be like that too.
its not the GOTY and its not a triple A title anymore or thats what most xbox fanboys say these days..
I see a lot more 8's and most likely 7's for the game.. It looks cheesy and boring as hell "TO ME"
because you're were wrong about uncharted, wrong about lair, wrong about heavenly sword, wrong about halo 3, wrong about bioshock and you'll be wrong about this, and probably, haze, and ut3.
"and most likely 7's for the game.. It looks cheesy and boring as hell "TO ME""
Which is exactly why you won't see mainly 7's for this game, as most reviewers aren't like YOU.
uncharted is the 7 and 8 game just go check meta critic this game is already known to be aaa unlike uncharted which hasa lot of reviews giving it 8
my guess that 8 is purely to garner attention. Like those that gave halo 3 an 8 to try and get clicks and get people to go to their website. great scores all around, I'm happy.
90, 92, 98 and 100
That's freaking brilliant!
p.s. I love how everyone harps on about the one 8/10 but fails too look at the other scores... really says something about the human mind :D Always looking for the bad in a good thing
I just downloaded that Distress call Trailer on XBL and what I noticed ws the facial expressions were realistic. It wasn't a part of the face that was moving but it was very natural and the game look A+.
I hung on Eternal Sonata and folklore right now but Folklore, I seem to be getting bored. I don't know if I'll finish. Falling down every time you get hit sucks. Invisible walls and prety much very linear game.
I might just have to answer that DISTRESSED CALL.
it right now.
Hopefully this means REVIEWS will be getting a MAJOR OVERHAUL now, finally showing that people's opinions are NOT TRUSTED OPINIONS if they review a game or something that isn't in a genre they like....
SHOOTER FANBOYS giving an 8 to MASS EFFECT because its an RPG
SHOOTER FANBOYS giving a 7 to Ratchet & Clank because its not a SHOOTER
SPORTS FANBOYS giving an 6 or a 7 to "ASSASSINS CREED" because its not a sports game!
RPG FANBOYS giving a 6 to HALO 3 because its not a RPG!
And then, METACRITIC needs to delete and remove all those worthless opinions from their list. A "REAL" review is always done by someone who's a fan of the genre instead of a loser...
Or its done by someone who isn't a FANBOY of games like GHOST RECON ISLAND THUNDER....
That said, completely flawless scores for ANOTHER great game!!!! =D
92, 98, 100, 95, MASS EFFECT IS ANOTHER HIT: RPG OF THE YEAR RIGHT HERE!!!!!
Maybe ***GAME OF THE YEAR*** as far as RPGs goes, this game is going to rock non-stop like crazy. DDDD !
That's the way you all go if this is PS3 title then it sucks and so on but if this XBox 360 game then hell why is this score (8) so low...-))) Xbots, nothing more.
But I have my pre-order to this game I like RPG but hate bushing people.
Hey, ps3 only owner here, and I dont mind admitting I am green as hell. Props to bioware, this looks INSANE! hope it makes its way to pc (clutching at straws!)
He said it will "drive shooter fans completely up the wall". Sounds like he's a shooter fan. And looking at the website for this magazine, I'm not too impressed by their credibility. Probably just another no name media source trying to make a name for themselves by giving a very hyped up game a marginal score. Maybe they're trying to win over the PS3 crowd. November's feature was on Ratchet and Clank and Uncharted after all. The same issue they gave Bioshock an 85 in. (Late review!!) So their credibility is definitely in question at this point.
That being said, another AAA title for the 360 thus far. At least the reviewers who have to maintain a shred of credibility are looking good!
This one I'm seriously looking forward to.
everyday there are another 30 Mass Effect videos on gametrailers... if your product is good enough you dont have to ram it down peoples throat.
So why don't you go cry about it on the gametrailers forums instead...
Hardcore Gamer Magazine WTF!!!
who are they
Well its 92% average now, but I bet that number will only go up because it won't get many reviews under this score.
And still, even with that 8, it's another over 90% average reviewed AAA game. Something the PS3 is lacking in exclusives.
Ratchet & Clank
another game over 90% woohoo that means im allowed to buy it right?
thats lucky huh, cos we all know real gamers only play games that OTHER people say are good.
ME did not get 10's across the board so it must suck according to your idiotic logic. can't have it both ways assbreath.
I am saying all reviews average score on or over 90% AAA. I am not talking about one review. I think you can agree on the fact that if 100 people find something great overall it must be a great game, when those same 100 averaged find it sh!t overall it won't be a very good game. RIGHT?! If there are 2 out of that 100 that think its a good game and 98 find it great you'll agree the game will just be great.
It's not that hard to understand is it really.
The highest rated games are the ones who play it safe. I can tell you why games like Halo 3 and Mass Effect rank so high, because they're just building on the strengths of their predecessors. Halo 3 is a combination of the best aspects from both Halo 1 and Halo 2 while Mass Effect is basically KOTOR with a new battle system. Of course these games are going to be near flawless. If you were a real gamer, you would judge games by your own experiences and be impressed by what games like Uncharted have to offer. I've seen plenty of videos of it, and if it's not triple A, then I don't know what triple A is.
@mwann plz say something that makes sense haha mass effect is like kotor ? why cause its made by bioware have y u played it and saying uncharted bring something new HAHAHAHAHA MAn lets say thanks to next gen for making kids get into gaming that have no idea ps my writing may suck but what im saying is hiting home
Mass effect is the first true rpg/shooter hybrid, halo 3 tried something new with forge/theater, and 4 player online co-op with a point system. Uncharted does nothing new, taking elements of lara croft and gears of war and plastering some nice graphics on them.
8 out of 10 not AAA anymore is it? According to Xbot logic that is the case.