Myona.com writes "When something goes overboard, you may will have to spill out something that is out of the line, and that is the case with Pete Hines, VP of PR and Marketing at Bethesda."
I think that pete is a jerk. The fan asked him a simple question. Bullshit isn't really an offensive word.
Look at that fan's past tweets. He's an ass to everyone.
I met him a few weeks back, he wasn't an ass to me lol He was actually really nice.
Yea, but you're supposed to ignore these people, not answer their question then insult them. Someone in PR should definitely know this.
The fan called him a prick, now thats insulting.
AngelGirl16 is obviously one of these kids that see no need to be respectful to others, but expect that because you have title, you need to extend them this courtesy. I am sure pete has to deal with these immature zelous on a daily, but it is his natural instent to try and correct the tune of the conversation by letting people know what he is not willing to put up with. I fine that these guys usually put a lot more info out there about these kinds of gameplay options for their games than most, and there game themselves, are some the most customizable on market. I was agree at what their did with Oblivion also, but I never felt like they mislead me. I just did not like what they added, and what was removed from the previous game (Morrowind).
Far besides the point Pete should act like a professional at all times, come on you're dealing with mostly teenagers/young adult males, its expected, responding in turn doesn't help anything. Edit - I actually think the guy was being more than an ass, not disputing that, but Pete losing his cool over twitter, not really worth it, better to be the bigger man and not be bothered.
honestly i dont see this as news. the guy was being a dick, pete was tired of people being dicks, so he made an example out of one. people often forget that these developers owe us nothing. people all the time take advantage of the kindness of some of these guys. not to mention it really makes us look bad as fans because they dont see the ones that kindly sit back and wait for them to release news, they see the ones that are rude and outspoken and demand news.
Wow, I somehow completely misread your comment. I met Pete, not the fan lol Pete's a nice guy.
Id say ass is an adjective that aptly describes most fans.
who cares? is any of this crap even worth discussing? some idiot used a 140 character retard website to insult someone, then some other idiot did the same thing in return. uh...news?
Meh, i would have done the same thing he did... if somebody talks shit to you, you should offend them :)
I'm all for publishers/devs telling it like it is. As long as they make good games, they can give all the rude fans in the world as many verbal beatings as they deserve.
no matter what people say, this is not a good PR.
I say screw Big Pete and the fan!
"Bullshit isn't really an offensive word." ^^^Contemporary societal norms at it again.
Im glad he did this he shouldnt have to put up with that little turds own BS.
I think calling someones answer bullshit, before he even answered qualifies as offensive. Heck the word bullshit itself is offensive to most.
PR guys for companies have a histroy for avoiding questions and going around it.. Insulting a fan is alot worse tbf
He's not a fan if all he does it troll the company. If he is, then they won't lose any sleep over that one potential customer.
@The Game Still when PR guys act like that gives the overall company a bad image.. just like when crytek thought theyd slag off every other fps developer.. Being nice will gain approval
I definitely agree that the company representative needs to be professional. Personally, I would ignore him @sshat.
I see no problem calling someone out for being out of line. The dude was an ass publicly so he got called out publicly. Kudos to Bethesda.
Using "bullshit" automatically makes the situation confrontational.
Does it? It's not very professional to answer any question rudely (especially if you're PR) no matter how rude the person asking the question is. "Bullshit" is just an opinion on how lame the quality of the answers have been recently. By the way, I do like elder scrolls, I just think the "fan" was perfectly within his rights to ask that question.
I think "ass" used restraint. That dude was worse than just a donkey.
The "fan" is an ass. Look at all his other tweets. PR doesn't OWE this guy anything. Look at his other tweets at Pete. Makes me want to reach through my screen and slap this idiot in the face. http://twitter.com/#!/UberA... http://twitter.com/#!/UberA... http://twitter.com/#!/UberA... What a little twat.
Geez, if the kid doesn't want to hear about ZeniMax games, why's he bothering to follow Pete's twitter account?
wow those posts were really sad. Doesn't this dude have anything better to do. What an immature freak by saying "boooooooo you suck" is this dude 12?
That little spoiled twat deserved more than that. I don't see any fault in Pete's reaction. He's human just like the rest of us and nobody deserves to be picked on.
Maybe we should all troll that guy for picking on Pete?
How about you actually read what the asshat tweet at Pete before jumping to conclusions from a badly worded Article title.
Bullshit may not be. But calling someone a prick is an assy move.
Whether bullshit is an offensive word or not, the "fan" was being an ass. And Pete was nice enough to say he was only kinduv an ass.
@AliTheBrit420, saying to someone "you're kinduv an ass" really isn't losing your cool. Granted it's not particularly professional, it's not as bad as some people on here are making it out to be.
The question was phrased in a particularly rude way, the guy is an ass and didn't even deserve an answer.
An ass indeed!
That’s not the only reason he goes mad, this fan called “UberAbwehr” already sending out a lot of not-so-nice tweets. “yea, not vague or anything, you prick” “booooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooo you suck” “stop advertising your games on your tweeter feed, you sellout” Point is... the guy is an Ass and Pete just helped the world know that he is an Ass.
If you were smart and looked at the so called fans past tweets, You'd see the reason why Pete called him an ass.
the dude was a douche and deserved to be called an ass.
To be fair, most gamers are asses and therefore this fan probably is too.
Did you just decide to stop reading? The girl's a troll. And sure, I'll say that it's a girl because I want to be politically correct and diverse.
ass isnt so your point is invalid.
And them going after mojang for "scrolls" is a okay. gfy zenimax/bethesda!
You're at it again.
Pete's a great guy. This fan asked an offensive question.
No, he didn't. An offensive question would have been "Can I **** everyone in the game?" All he did was call out bethesda for doing what most game companies do. Instead of giving a straight answer they beat around the bush and never answer it.
The question was about button mapping. I mean, how nerdy and ridiculous. Don't give me a bullshit answer about button mapping? Really? There was no reason for this person to be confrontational, and the common misconception among entitled folks is to expect the answerer to respond with kindness every single time. Then they get bent out shape when they receive the answer he or she didn't expect. And the word "bullshit" is still fairly offensive, and even if you don't think so, using it automatically makes the situation confrontational. I wish there was no button mapping so this person could start a useless petition while Skyrim sells six million plus copies anyway.
@Buff1044 Pete wasn't offended by the subject of the question (button mapping). That's a perfectly legit question, and he's used to clarifying minor details like that. I've tweeted him once or twice myself, and Pete has always answered politely. It was the tone of the question, and the fact that this user has repeatedly treated others like crap (even those who were doing him favors), that set Pete off. That guy certainly had it coming.
What are you talking about? He asked if there was button mapping, and Pete answered yes.
He kinda asked for it.
He did ask for it... Pete was dead on.
After reading the article and the exerts from the "*ss" in question, I must say I agree. Now, don't confuse me for saying that I condone Pete's behavior. As he is a professional and should behave as such. Am I perfect? No, and every user of this site knows how annoying and insulting some people can be. I'm sure someone like him takes more abuse than us. So I don't blame him for loosing his cool after being constantly berated by his own fans.
The fan was being a little obnoxious and demanding, I think. I wouldn't have responded the way the PR guy did but considering the fan had more offensive tweets, I think Peter was justified.
I hate to break it to some of you, but being a fan of a game doesn't give someone a free pass to demand answers, nor does it give them carte blache to say whatever they want. When you act like an idiot, you get treated like an idiot. I applaud this Pete guy. Just because he works there and has a Twitter doesn't mean he has to deal with stupid people acting stupid. That dude is lucky he didn't get me. I wouldn't have been nearly as nice as the Pete guy. Moral of the story: don't act like a dick and you won't get treated like one.
I agree 100%
pete didn't act like dick but he got treated like one. your morale doesn't work most of the time. Have you ever tried to work in customer service in your life?
This isn't customer service. He owes no one anything.
What happened to the customer is always right?If you want our hard earned money you have to take our shit and PR guys usually DO just bullshit
Most of the time the customer isn't right, but they are always the customer. This pete guy did nothing wrong. The guy was being an ass and was responded to as such.
Yeah as a person he did BUT he is representing bethesda he should just have ignored it and just let the guy look like an ass all by himself not giving him more fuel to bitch
Sorry, but if you come into my store acting like that guy did, you can walk right back out the door. I don't want your business if you don't act like you don't know how to behave or respect others. You're not the only one working hard for money. When you're selling a product, yes, the customer is important. But if the customer is an asshole, they lose that right of importance.
I agree but I understand what that guy was saying cause how many times have we been promised things in games by the PR guys then we run out throw down $60 bucks and its compleatly different but yeah I see the PR guys side as well
I don't care if he's the PR guy or the president or an intern that just gets coffee. You have the right to say "enough is enough." People are human before they are their occupation.
As someone whose job it is to deal with abusive customers, I can tell you that the whole notion of "the customer is always right" is bullshit. Yes, a company that wants to sell you something should do everything they can to earn your business, but there has to be a line. Abusive customers tend to be self righteous pricks who feel the world owes them everything they ask for and throw fits when they don't get their way. I applaud people like Pete who actually stand up to their abusive customers instead of just bending over and taking it. The guy asked a question, but instead of allowing Pete to answer, he immediately assumes he won't get the answer he wants. And looking at his other posts it is clear that the kid has a history of being an asshole. Why treat this guy with respect when he's clearly done nothing to deserve it?
What exactly makes this douche a customer? He doesn't even sound like a fan to me.
He deserve to be called "ass" he was being a prick.
he is now hes bashing on him what an ass